What A Difference A Kernel Makes.

[bob466]

On the Mint site they say just run the Driver Manager...simple and everything is wonderful.
https://linuxmint-installation-guide.readthedocs.io/en/latest/drivers.html

What they don't say is this Kernel 6.14.0-35 has problems...so if you have a Graphics Card good luck. Because 22.2 is a new version of Mint...there's nothing to roll back to.

So what you need to do is...go to the Update Manager...View...Linux Kernels...continue...and remove 6.14.0-35. Go down to 6.8 and click...Install...close and restart. Now restart tapping the Shift Key to bring the Grub menu.

Go down to 6.8.0-87...hit Enter...the computer will restart. Go to the Update Manager...View...Linux Kernels...continue...you'll see this...using 6.8.0-87. Double click 6.14.0-35 and click Remove then...Yes. Once done restart...now your using 6.8.0-87...now you can install your Graphics Card in the Driver Manager...easy isn't it. How is a beginner to know and do this.

 

[theLegionWithin]

That's just by your choice, which is not a bad thing. There are many titles that can't be played on Linux, regardless of your GPU.

But, yeah... You're getting those results based on the games you choose to play. There are a ton of games verified to not work on Linux. You can check the Proton database, for starters.

that's quite true, and I suppose I should have use a qualifier as well since I dont have the reaction senses to play those FPS games (regardless of which OS I'm using). getting a bit far afield here but I did run across this recently, https://github.com/WinterSnowfall/d7vk, a compatibility layer similar to proton for some older games - as time passes I'm sure even older direct3d versions will eventually be supported under vanilla linux.

 

[dos2unix]

What qualifies as "working"? Almost any game will run on any computer (no matter how bad the specs are).
But you might not like it, and you definitely won't be competitive in multi-player games.

 

[ibhuiyan]

I am using Linux Mint 22.2 and everything seems to be working just fine including my Nvidia RTX A1000 GPU. Fedora also worked right out of the box, no issue there.

 

[f33dm3bits]

If you are a heavy gamer and I don't mean board games opensource Linux graphics drivers suck.
True real gaming requires a real graphics card with a real oem proprietary graphics diver.
Opensource graphics drivers don't compare to oem proprietary graphics drivers when it come to high end gaming.

I used the nvidia-open drivers they work great on all the new games I've played, no complaints there.

There are some Linux gamers, but they're limited on what they can play. For example, there's a ton of modern games that won't work because of 'anti-cheat' features.

Most Linux users will consider "anti-cheat" features as spyware or root-kits because anyone controlling the anti-cheat engine can read out your entire system.

You have WINE, Proton, Bottles, etc... But not even those will let you play all of the games. Performance suffers in a VM, so that too isn't always an option.

All recent games that I bought to play on day one I have been able to play on Linux, I can't even think of a game that didn't work that I have played in the years since Proton. The only game I had to do some manual stuff to work as an old game from 2007 but had that with none of the recent games. The only game that I've experienced performance issues on was Borderlands 4 but it also has horrible performance issues on Windows.

 

[Brickwizard]

Most Linux users will consider "anti-cheat" features as spyware or root-kits because anyone controlling the anti-cheat engine can read out your entire system.

I totally agree but trying to tell a youngster that they are compromising their machine and security, and all you will get is a glazed stare and shrug of the shoulders,

 

[KGIII]

for some older games

I've spent some money buying games. I did a bit with Steam, but I found most of my money went to https://www.gog.com/. They have a ton of games that run just fine on Linux. They've been a good source of games. They work hard to preserve games, making them work on current systems. They don't just make them work, they sometimes make them better.

 

[f33dm3bits]

I've spent some money buying games. I did a bit with Steam, but I found most of my money went to https://www.gog.com/. They have a ton of games that run just fine on Linux.

I in the past few months I have been starting a GOG collection just so if I have an alternative to Steam if something where to happen that made Steam go bad or die. It's also nice to have DRM free games and not to have Steam track everything you do.

 

[MzQ1NjExN2]

Anybody remember this game?

Diablo + Hellfire

Now with Hellfire! Originally developed by Synergistic Software and released in 1997, Hel

www.gog.com

Looks like it only works on Windows as per the link above.

 

[f33dm3bits]

Anybody remember this game?

Diablo + Hellfire

Now with Hellfire! Originally developed by Synergistic Software and released in 1997, Hel

www.gog.com

Looks like it only works on Windows as per the link above.

Most GOG only work on Windows but with Heroic Games Launcher or Lutris that game will work.

 

[MzQ1NjExN2]

Most GOG games only work on Windows but with Heroic Games Launcher or Lutris that game will work.

Never heard of GOG until now. I did try Steam (Team Fortress 2) on Linux about a year ago after quitting gaming back around 2005. Those late 90's and early 2000's Blizzard and Valve games killed me.

I'd be down to get a Linux.org Diablo session (or Baldur's Gate) though.

Then again I don't know if I want to be opening up this can of worms on myself.

 

[f33dm3bits]

Most GOG only work on Windows but with Heroic Games Launcher or Lutris that game will work.

@MzQ1NjExN2 what I meant to say was most of the games on GOG are listed as Windows only but you can play them using Heroic Games Launcher or Lutris or another launcher like them.

 

[MzQ1NjExN2]

@MzQ1NjExN2 what I meant to say was most of the games on GOG are listed as Windows only but you can play them using Heroic Games Launcher or Lutris or another launcher like them.

Got it.

 

[KGIII]

Most GOG only work on Windows but with Heroic Games Launcher or Lutris that game will work.

I'd like to quantify this a bit.

What you said is 100% correct. It's also worth mentioning that GOG also has many, many games that work with Linux.

 

[The Duck]

I used the nvidia-open drivers they work great on all the new games I've played, no complaints there.

Try them with XPlane they will freeze.

 

[wizardfromoz]

I am looking at getting a lenovo laptop from 2022 to replace my 2021 Dell that pooped the bed yesterday. I do content creation, graphics, photography, videography and podcast work on this device. It has a t1200 nvidia graphics card, Will this work in Zorin 18? I do not game at all just creative workflows.

Best to start a separate thread on that, to see if someone knows.

Cheers

Wizard

 

[wizardfromoz]

I'd also like to remind some of the Members to revisit the subject title and to please stay on topic.

TIA

Wizard

 

[wizardfromoz]

Bob, three things

1. I believe that it is a fair and understandable/justifiable rant, on your part
2. Some of your problems with the kernel that was the culprit could be directed to kernel.org, or might have references there that help, and
3. A couple of your Posts could be copied to a HOWTO that would possibly be of benefit to a number of Members and Users. If you choose to do that, we could always rename this thread so that there is no confusion.

Let me know what you think.

TIA

Wiz

 

[bob466]

Bob, three things

1. I believe that it is a fair and understandable/justifiable rant, on your part
2. Some of your problems with the kernel that was the culprit could be directed to kernel.org, or might have references there that help, and
3. A couple of your Posts could be copied to a HOWTO that would possibly be of benefit to a number of Members and Users. If you choose to do that, we could always rename this thread so that there is no confusion.

Let me know what you think.

TIA

Wiz

They know about this Kernel...since 4th of September.

I use this Driver and my Graphic Card is only 2 years old...the say install Mint 22.1...really.

What they don't say is...if Kernel 6.14 gives you trouble in Mint 22.2...just install Kernel 6.8 problem solved. If you want to use Mint 22.2..do you have to buy a new Graphic Card...Hell no.

I have no intentions of installing Mint Cinnamon 22.2 as 22.1 works just fine and is supported til 2029.

As for a How To...The article I put together on how to roll back a Kernel was for a problem I had back in 2016 and nothing to do with now's problem.

Maybe I could put together a How to...on uninstalling Kernel 6.14 and installing Kernel 6.8..I know it works because I have 22.2 with 6.8 running on my spare SSD with 470 Driver which they say isn't supported.

 

[f33dm3bits]

What they don't say is...if Kernel 6.14 gives you trouble in Mint 22.2...just install Kernel 6.8 problem solved.

Don't forget that kernel 6.8 is end of life and not receiving any more updates, so neither security updates.

Linux kernel version history - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Linux Kernel

Check end-of-life, release policy and support schedule for Linux Kernel.

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