Zorin Installed, Looking at Wine or other to run Win 10 software

[Gareth]

ADMINISTRATOR'S NOTE

I have moved about a page of posts from a previous thread https://www.linux.org/threads/new-to-mint-and-initial-problems.60627/to here, as the OP has gone with a different Linux solution. Wizard


The good news is that I have managed to install and all the drives are visible and usable. But this is because I was advised to use Zorin rather than Mint. It may well be error on my part but the install in Zorin was far more simple and straightforward.

I do appreciate everyone's help here though.

 

[tpkusr]

Your frustration is justified. As a newcomer to Linux, it wasn't easy. But the good thing is that you finally did it. And I think you will find good company here.

 

[Gareth]

Your frustration is justified. As a newcomer to Linux, it wasn't easy. But the good thing is that you finally did it. And I think you will find good company here.

Everyone was great. as you say frustration was palpable. A friend had just installed Zorin, he had been told that it was very straightforward compared to others, and it was. I like it and I am here to stay.
I have a few questions though:
I am planning to run Win10 (dual boot but on a separate drive) and I am running this offline to use photo editing software that I will not need to update (for 3-4 years).
One piece of software (that needs to be online) I was going to run in Wine (if I could ever work out how it worked) but am I right in saying that I will have to have Win10 running online to do that?

 

[tpkusr]

One piece of software (that needs to be online) I was going to run in Wine (if I could ever work out how it worked) but am I right in saying that I will have to have Win10 running online to do that?

Which software?

 

[Gareth]

Which software?

Family Historian - I know this can be run in Wine but I do not want Win10 online at any time.

 

[Brickwizard]

I know this can be run in Wine but I do not want Win10 online at any time.

for want of a better description, WINE is a comptability layer to run Windows apps in Linux it is not Windows your machinr remans Linux even thogh your using WINE

 

[Gareth]

for want of a better description, WINE is a comptability layer to run Windows apps in Linux it is not Windows your machinr remans Linux even thogh your using WINE

I have asked the question before in a number of places: "If I have Win10 and Linux dual booted, and run a windows app through Wine, can Win10 access the internet? Or more importantly can MS contact my Win10?" Mixed reviews.

 

[CaffeineAddict]

I have asked the question before in a number of places: "If I have Win10 and Linux dual booted, and run a windows app through Wine, can Win10 access the internet?

You don't seem to understand what Wine is and how it works.

If you have dual boot Win10 & Linux, or any other combination of OS's, one system is always down and never has any run time contact with the other.
Wine however is just a program that runs within Linux and runs Windows software.
So Wine also has no contact of any kind with Win10 since you run it when Linux is booted.

Wine is compatibility layer like @Brickwizard explained to you but you didn't get it.

Suggested read to understand what is compatibility layer:

Emulation, Virtualization & Compatibility Layers

blog.kartones.net

Suggested read about Wine:

FAQ · Wiki · wine / wine · GitLab

Wine development tree

gitlab.winehq.org

 

[Brickwizard]

If you have a dule boot, only one operating system can be run at a time QED if your using Linux the internet will only see Linux, if you are running Windows in a VM using the bridge connection then the Internet will only see Linux, if you configure the VM with direct access to the internet then yes it will be seen as windows

 

[bob466]

Wine is a hit-and-miss affair...you're better off running a windoze Virtual Machine.

I don't dual boot as it causes problems...I have a w7 VM but it's not connected to the net...I have my Printer/Scanner installed so I can see ink levels and head cleaning.

I recently downloaded windoze Ventoy software in Linux Mint and then installed it in my w7 VM to a Flash Drive...it worked.

In Linux a VM is a file not a Drive...so it's isolated from you know who.

 

[Gareth]

Wine is a hit-and-miss affair...you're better off running a windoze Virtual Machine.

I don't dual boot as it causes problems...I have a w7 VM but it's not connected to the net...I have my Printer/Scanner installed so I can see ink levels and head cleaning.

I recently downloaded windoze Ventoy software in Linux Mint and then installed it in my w7 VM to a Flash Drive...it worked.

In Linux a VM is a file not a Drive...so it's isolated from you know who. View attachment 29562

Thanks for that Bob. Can I just check something? Do I have to split resources between the VM and Linux. I am sure somewhere I read this to be the case.

 

[Gareth]

If you have a dule boot, only one operating system can be run at a time QED if your using Linux the internet will only see Linux, if you are running Windows in a VM using the bridge connection then the Internet will only see Linux, if you configure the VM with direct access to the internet then yes it will be seen as windows

Thanks for explaining.

 

[Gareth]

You don't seem to understand what Wine is and how it works.

If you have dual boot Win10 & Linux, or any other combination of OS's, one system is always down and never has any run time contact with the other.
Wine however is just a program that runs within Linux and runs Windows software.
So Wine also has no contact of any kind with Win10 since you run it when Linux is booted.

Wine is compatibility layer like @Brickwizard explained to you but you didn't get it.

Suggested read to understand what is compatibility layer:

Emulation, Virtualization & Compatibility Layers

blog.kartones.net

Suggested read about Wine:

FAQ · Wiki · wine / wine · GitLab

Wine development tree

gitlab.winehq.org

You are right, I did not understand. Thanks for explaining.

 

[bob466]

Thanks for that Bob. Can I just check something? Do I have to split resources between the VM and Linux. I am sure somewhere I read this to be the case.

You can create a shared folder between Mint and the VM...I downloaded the windoze Ventoy software and put in the shared folder...then opened the folder in w7.

 

[Kojack]

I am dabbling in Zorin and when i do use it, I enjoy it. As for windows software There's really nothing I need that I can't get in Linux in some form or other.