PopOS

[kc1di]

For those interested in PopOS System 76 has announced that their new Cosmic DE will be incorporated in their 24.04 release sometime after ubuntu 24.04 LTS is released.
Cosmic unlike anyother DE will be written completely in the Rust programming language. Fedora is considering a Cosmic spin also. Time will tell if it will come to fruition.

Also System 76 announced they will be upping their laptop line with 14th generation I9 processors starting in March. Hefty price tags though.
Read more here.

Pop!_OS' COSMIC Desktop May See a Fedora Entry

A Fedora COSMIC Desktop variant? Sounds so cool!

news.itsfoss.com

System76 Refreshes Its Serval WS Linux Laptop with 14th Gen Intel CPU - 9to5Linux

System76 refreshes its powerful Serval WS Linux-powered laptop with a high-end 14th-generation Intel Core i9-14900HX CPU processor.

9to5linux.com

COSMIC Desktop Is Slated to Debut with Pop!_OS 24.04 LTS

It's final - a highly anticipated stable release of the COSMIC desktop environment is coming with Pop!_OS 24.04 LTS.

linuxiac.com

 

[BigBadBeef]

Yaaaay!!!

Wait... what does that mean? I get what they're doing, but I'm not sure what I'm enthusiastic about, since that update will supposedly be on the way towards solving problem I've never had.

 

[kc1di]

Well several people I know are looking forward to it because of the rust behind it. But we will see what transpires

I for one use mostly KDE and may give it a look when it comes out. Hopefully it will add better features to it than Gnome.

 

[BigBadBeef]

Yeah, I'll defer that particular update to the volunteer guinea pigs. The last thing I need are problems where there are none.

 

[Disabled]

Cosmic unlike anyother DE will be written completely in the Rust

Should I be hyped ?
Why is Rust better then the others ?
I have already enough with PopOS, they transform this distro from a stable release into a rolling one.
They just push software, like is no tomorrow.
I struggled with their GNOME being the by far(my opinion) the most sluggish compared to the others distros.
For whatever reason I couldn't install xanmod kernel(stable Real-time) but on Ubuntu I COULD, and that made
GNOME to act even faster(20-30%). Later, after lot of 'work' I installed some sort of kernel FOR.. PopOS, some
MAIN or LTS release, what was as good as nothing.
I don't even know why I still coming back to this distro

As for System 76(a manufactured company) can you tell me why or at least if you guess why they don't sell pc motherboards with coreboot ? All what they care(probably) is if their PopOs works on their Laptops.

 

[Brickwizard]

All what they care(probably) is if their PopOs works on their Laptops.

Not likely, Pop os is built to work specifically on their own machines, it may be Ubuntu based, but that's about it, if it works OTB on non system 76 hardware your lucky, if it doesn't it can be a right pain in the but to get working correctly, [that's why I never suggest it]

 

[BigBadBeef]

Not likely, Pop os is built to work specifically on their own machines, it may be Ubuntu based, but that's about it, if it works OTB on non system 76 hardware your lucky, if it doesn't it can be a right pain in the but to get working correctly, [that's why I never suggest it]

Its not so bad, is it? I mean it does work on most computers, doesn't it?

 

[Brickwizard]

I mean it does work on most computers, doesn't it?

its probably better than it was, but it can still cause some awkward problems,

 

[Disabled]

it can still cause some awkward problems

One of them, but a serious one is in the install process, when you get instead of an open source driver, what will surely work
you get a driver based on the kernel version and you end up having a "broken system" "out from the box".
How is that to a new to Linux ?
The awkward situation is.. where if the forum Pop_Os? where is the support

 

[KGIII]

I tried giving them a helping hand at one point and I don't know what happened, but there used to be:

Pop!_Planet Coming soon!

Just Another Coming Soon Page

pop-planet.info

In the meantime, for POP_OS! matters, your best bet is Reddit. They have an active sub-Reddit there.

 

[Disabled]

I tried giving them a helping hand at one point

That's nice, but I will surely move to another "project".
IME is what I want from System 76 and Coreboot also
As from Pop_Os, only bad news.. doesn't matter that I already done like 1000 updates&upgrades(last one was yesterday)
today came another one

another 3,3 GB update and the 550 driver? is just staying there.. like a bait. Doesn't matter if is good or not for your hardware
doesn't matter if hurts to performance. Believe it or not is harder then windows to to turn of notification or "the calling back home"
In gaming sessions you will be prompt with a banner.. new updates are waiting for you, click this button to see them Working in
desktop is "important" to them, but not when gaming..
The Pop!_Shop is that sluggish, you can't open it.. is like, you can't type anything because it's the calling home first, a refresh
or an update to apps second and then.. please user what do you want from me?
A installation or an update takes forever, via terminal or Synaptic is fast enough though.

your best bet is Reddit.

Oh, on Reddit ?

 

[KGIII]

Oh, on Reddit ?

If you limit yourself to certain subs, Reddit has useful content.

But, man, it's hard to ignore the front page and memes. You just gotta be diligent.

I pay attention (check every few days or if something is up) to a few subs, including a "local" sub. There's no such thing as a truly local sub but that's because I live in the middle of nowhere.

I also have it set up to automatically post my site's content to a sub that I own. It's good for SEO.

 

[lomszz]

Nobody forces you to update again, when i used Pop OS i didn't have problems at all. Now I'm waiting for cosmic to be released

Keep in mind flatpak updates are always "big".

 

[Disabled]

Nobody forces you to update

Thanks PR

Now I'm waiting for cosmic to be released

Oh, you too? great !

flatpak updates are always "big"

I wonder how much flatpak reside inside Pop_Os

 

[JP1]

I just ordered an Oryx Pro from System76 yesterday, so I'm excited to see how this all works out. I have used Pop_Os in the past on a non-System76 machine and it worked fine. If I don't like it I can always put another distro on there. Yes, that 14th generation I9 processor costs a pretty penny, but this is going to be my laptop for a long time to come.

 

[bwingbob]

I just ordered an Oryx Pro from System76 yesterday, so I'm excited to see how this all works out. I have used Pop_Os in the past on a non-System76 machine and it worked fine. If I don't like it I can always put another distro on there. Yes, that 14th generation I9 processor costs a pretty penny, but this is going to be my laptop for a long time to come.

Following.

Let us know what you think about the Oryx. I have been considering purchasing a Pangolin, they almost got me with that last $200 off sale.

I already own a Thelio Mira and absolutely love it.

Bob

 

[JP1]

Following.

Let us know what you think about the Oryx. I have been considering purchasing a Pangolin, they almost got me with that last $200 off sale.

I already own a Thelio Mira and absolutely love it.

Bob

Those Thelio Miras are gorgeous machines. If I didn't already have a beast of a Lenovo (ThinkStation P920) I would def get one of those.

It'll probably be a couple of weeks by the time they build and ship across the country, but I'll let you know. I had better be blown away after what I paid!

 

[JP1]

Following.

Let us know what you think about the Oryx. I have been considering purchasing a Pangolin, they almost got me with that last $200 off sale.

Got it about 2 days ago. Beautiful device. Here's the specs -

It is a beast of a machine. Very heavy, and not a laptop you would want to travel with. The 16x10 display is great and images/video look wonderful. I don't like Gnome so one of the first things I did was install Cinnamon, but looking forward to trying Cosmic when it is a stable release.

When I first got it, the fan was so loud that my wife sitting on the couch next to me was complaining. It hasn't done that since that first day though. Don't know what that was about. The exterior looks really nice but attracts fingerprints. The keyboard is fine. Doesn't stand out positive or negative. I don't know that I've ever had a more sturdy, well-built laptop.

I only have one major complaint - the trackpad. It is Huuuuuge! I am constantly brushing it with my palm as I am typing and wiping out text or zooming the cursor elsewhere. Hopefully I'll get used to that and my adapted typing style.

 

[bwingbob]

Got it about 2 days ago. Beautiful device. Here's the specs -

It is a beast of a machine. Very heavy, and not a laptop you would want to travel with. The 16x10 display is great and images/video look wonderful. I don't like Gnome so one of the first things I did was install Cinnamon, but looking forward to trying Cosmic when it is a stable release.

When I first got it, the fan was so loud that my wife sitting on the couch next to me was complaining. It hasn't done that since that first day though. Don't know what that was about. The exterior looks really nice but attracts fingerprints. The keyboard is fine. Doesn't stand out positive or negative. I don't know that I've ever had a more sturdy, well-built laptop.

I only have one major complaint - the trackpad. It is Huuuuuge! I am constantly brushing it with my palm as I am typing and wiping out text or zooming the cursor elsewhere. Hopefully I'll get used to that and my adapted typing style.

Glad to hear you are happy with the machine, I am really rooting for the folks at System76.

On my main computer I have a Launch Heavy keyboard, all laptop keyboards suck in comparison.

I have the same problem with track pads, guess my wrists are lazy when I type.

I install the Cosmic Alpha on an older HP laptop that I have. It is missing a bunch of stuff, the file manager is not ready, I installed Nemo now it's all good.

I was originally going to install the Alpha just to take a look, then restore the SSD, but I have it pretty sable now so I am going to keep using it. The System76 folks enable updates for Cosmic from the Github main branch so the updates are coming fast and furious. Pretty shortly as a pull request is complete there is an update available.

If you have used the current version of Pop, then you will be at home with the new version.

Bob

 

[JP1]

On my main computer I have a Launch Heavy keyboard, all laptop keyboards suck in comparison.

I know the feeling. I have a Das keyboard with Cherry MX blue mechanical keys on mine. Nothing compares to it!