I Am Throwing In The Towel..

[wizardfromoz]

Anyway - I made it much further along this time so hopefully in a few years I will try again and see if I can make the transition.

...and hopefully you will find it more suitable to your tastes and needs.......

Good luck

Chris Turner
wizardfromoz

 

[celtic945]

There's nothing wrong with saying a plain goodbye, since you were giving the impression you are leaving. If it was an attitude thing more words would and could have been added.

Can you share a link to the device you are having problems with, I'd maybe be interested in testing out that device myself if it's not too expensive just out of curiosity.

Well Pulseaudio is old and Pipewire the new thing, some people still prefer to use Pulseaudio so that's why you have both. You have the same thing with X11 vs Wayland now, as a lot of distributions are still in a transition phase but some people still prefer to use X11 so then you get people who create forks of X11 to continue to be able to use it. It's what opensource is about, being able to use the code of an existing project if you like. But in short Pipewire should be the standard in most modern distributions and Wayland is getting there to also be that for most distributions with a few exceptions. In short it's quite hard to just jump from an old solution to a new solutions, you don't just do that from day one as there's always a transition phase.

And with how opensource people are now days, if someone doesn't like a direction a project is going it gets forked and continued under a new name. That has it's advantages and disavantages. But without that a lot of the development over the years wouldn't have been possible, for example Proton is a fork Wine with a lot of customization and that boosted Linux gaming. So it's not always all bad as both projects benefit from each other now.

I work with Linux for work and in the research field there seems to be more and more ask for Linux desktops, so will see where that leads.

Seems there's displaylink drivers for Ubuntu.

How to install DisplayLink software on Ubuntu 20.04 – DisplayLink Support

support.displaylink.com

DisplayLink GPU Agnostic Display Solutions

Synaptics’ DisplayLink uses software and a device decoder to act as a virtual graphics card, enhancing display capabilities, productivity, and sustainability with adaptive compression technology.

www.synaptics.com

However running an Immutable distribution that's going to be a pain as you would probably have to layer that into the image provided by Bazzite or something else and it seems they only have an Ubuntu driver package.

But they do mention this.

Porting the DisplayLink Ubuntu driver to other Linux distributions – DisplayLink Support

support.displaylink.com

Either way good luck and remember your os of choice is just a tool. Take care!

This is the device I was having issues with if you want to order and try it:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08XWZ81CW?ref=fed_asin_title

I was running Bazzite with KDE Plasma and Pipewire for audio.

 

[celtic945]

OP,

You said you're going back to windoze but you're still here.
I won't say bye...I'll say...

Have a nice life. View attachment 31996

I am trying to provide some meaningful feedback from someone who works extensively in the corporate world with tools required by a majority of corporations to attempt to help move Linux forward. I am giving my take and experience in an effort to give some perspective from someone who made an honest attempt to switch to it and encountered problems that cannot currently be overcome.

Again, I am not trying to bash Linux because there are many things I really like about it. I am frustrated because I wanted it to work and put an extensive amount of time into learning everything and resolving every issue before giving up. The issue I see is that the distros are simply ignoring the needs of many corporate users or maybe don't have the resources to do it - I don't know. I understand Microsoft doesn't make it easy.

Libre Office is not the answer nor is Only Office. Evolution, Thunderbird and others don't work because they are missing critical functions such as integration. The software quality is sub par when compared to what you can run on Windows or Mac. I have all three - a Macbook, Windows laptop and laptop with Bazzite and have used all three extensively. Evolution looks like it lives in the late 90s and the search is absolutely horrible. I do like the way you can sort messages and many other functions in it. But what good is it if you can't search for emails?

The core Linux OS is hands down the best out there. It's more stable than Windows or Mac and has amazing tools and upgrade options. The stability is unbeatable. The weakness is within the software. Without a viable Teams client, Office suite and email client, a majority of people are not going to use it long term. This is why so many people find themselves in my situation - they give it a honest try and then find themselves going back to Windows or Mac because of the same issues I encountered.

If I didn't have to work in the corporate world, it would probably work for me. But I live on Teams and email and without the interoperability between the two, it just makes work twice as difficult.

This will be my last post. I have tried giving some honest feedback. I have opened tickets on the Bazzite development forums to provide feedback as well as to the issues I have encountered so they can hopefully address them. I am hopeful that sometime in the future, the OS and app ecosystem will get to a point where it is a viable replacement for someone like me.

 

[piorunz]

This is the exact attitude and reason Linux will never take over the desktop - this exact attitude.

Linux doesn't need to "take over" anything. It's enough if it's useful for many people - that's a success. It's free already, so it's not that you are not getting enough value out of your purchase.

It will be fine without you, too.

 

[CaffeineAddict]

I am frustrated because I wanted it to work and put an extensive amount of time into learning everything and resolving every issue before giving up.

The only thing you've been learning is how to make MS bloatware run on Linux.

Linux is NOT Windows

I've read your posts and can tell your frustration comes from misunderstanding some things.
hopefully link above helps you figure out your problem.

Good luck letting MS collect everything about you.

 

[wizardfromoz]

It will be fine without you, too.

and

Good luck letting MS collect everything about you.

are unnecessary, just wish the OP Bon Voyage and move on.

If he comes back in a couple of years, he may find things more to his needs and likes, or he may not.

Only The Shadow knows.

...and others don't work because they are missing critical functions such as integration.

A considerable reason for that is that Microsoft's proprietary software is not available to Linux developers for inspection and adaption, so their "best guess" efforts are the best we can hope for.

I used Windows for 24 years before I had the gumption and desire to rid myself of it for good and embrace Linux exclusively. Probably 98% of my needs have been met, and even exceeded. As for the 1-2% remainder, I have adapted, or found acceptable alternatives, and regard myself as a happy Linuxian.

Cheers

Wizard

 

[bob466]

We defiantly don't need another disgruntled windoze user typing long boring posts crying about Linux.

 

[piorunz]

We defiantly don't need another disgruntled windoze user typing long boring posts crying about Linux. View attachment 32046

Your post will/may be read as offending by the moderator and may not meet forum "standards". Read quote from above from the moderator about two other posts:

unnecessary, just wish the OP Bon Voyage and move on.

So, wish the OP bon voyage and thank him for his invaluable contribution.

 

[wizardfromoz]

Locking this thread ... it has run its course.