Australia - The Land Down Under

Fancy a spot of tennis ...?


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meanwhile, in Australia...

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What a bloody joke this is...

What moron thought this up.
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Apparently it is located close to a baseball field......I would have to assume that is supposed to represent a baseball diamond. (groan button required here)
 
Apparently it is located close to a baseball field......I would have to assume that is supposed to represent a baseball diamond. (groan button required here)
TV reporter made that baseball thing up...typical of reporters..if you don't know just make it up...happens all the time.
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I have recommended many roundabouts. They're a fantastic way to move traffic and actually take less space than an interchange or regular intersection that handles the same volume of traffic with the same amount of throughput. They're also safer than other methods.

(Some areas call them 'rotaries'.)

One caveat is that they screw with the traffic flow for a varied length of time, eventually. People come to grips with it, and the full benefits are seen. It takes time to acclimate. That's generally only a concern for local traffic - because those unfamiliar with it will never be familiar with that specific roundabout but will hopefully at least have experience with them and know how to navigate them safely.

We have fewer roundabouts here in the US, compared to other developed countries. That's true even with our vast network of roads. So, we take a while to figure it out. If we had a roundabout like the one in the video above, we'd be shooting each other.

I actually got permission to study a couple of roundabouts in the UK, but that's a different topic.

For the roundabout in the above video, they should have probably installed clear signage that explains the expected behavior. They should probably have considered making the change known ahead of time. This is the sort of thing that the public needs to know about. They also could have made that weird diamond shape taller. People would still be confused, but they wouldn't be driving over the top of it.

It's probably a bit more chaotic at night. I hope they have proper lighting for that.

And, for the record, I've never recommended a diamond-shaped roundabout. I've had clients who refused to use roundabouts because they're 'too complicated'. I'm not sure what they'd say if I'd proposed this monstrosity.

I wonder if it was designed by a real traffic engineer or just someone who doesn't understand traffic. I'm almost 100% certain that nobody actually modeled this ahead of time. I can tell you that with complete confidence. If they did, I hope they made other recommendations and it was the municipality that didn't listen to them.
 
I would like to hear the comments from the guys who actually did the hard work of installing it, along with the concrete truck driver etc etc etc

That would have been the source of much bad language and shockingly bad language at the expense of 'Those dumb ******** up at the council"
It would have to be 'designed'/'looked at'/Approved(?) by people in the relevant department at the local council with jurisdiction in that particular area.

I will keep my eyes open for follow up articles.
 
I know for a fact that this case is not restricted to just Australia, ...it is a world wide phenomenon, it is growing. not everybody has the mindset to cope.


 
Roundabout: I dont think these shed anything new re the weird "roundabout" which is not round....but it does provide a few links to sources which can generally be relied on to follow up.



 
......from one of those links....

It is one of several roundabouts installed in Australia in the past month, following a Liverpool Council petition to the state government that called for “urgent upgrades” to the “chronically congested” Fifteenth Avenue.

More than 2000 people had signed the petition, and a response was provided by NSW Roads Minister Jenny Aitchison on Tuesday.

Aitchison noted work was “taking place to improve congestion, access and safety for road users on Fifteenth Avenue and surrounding roads”.
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So, why am I not surprised/shocked/ ...? The comment came from a politician, that's why. Whadda you reckon, @bob466 ?
 
Only in the UK !

It is probably not as intimidating as it looks. The first dozen encounters would not be for the faint hearted, but hopefully some familiarity would come after that

only one fatal crash in 5 years is commendable
 
Good one, Bob

The news article reporting the removal of the offending diamond quoted the Liverpool council at the end of the article....

Liverpool City Council said the organisation has secured $1 billion in state and federal funding for an upgrade to the road.

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and we can see just how well they can spend OUR money, can't we. !
 
Roundabouts are the worst thing ever invented and because they're cheaper than traffic lights...we get them.

Roundabouts are very dangerous because many people don't know the rules and the rest don't care...I've had so many close calls from morons who don't give way when they must...what a joke.
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For our American readers...in Australia we say "Give Way" and you say "Yield" which makes me think of Knights in Armour fighting with swords and one saying...do you yield.
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Ever been to Swindon in the UK, the Magic roundabout is probably the oldest multi gyratory in the world

I actually got permission to study a couple of roundabouts in the UK, but that's a different topic.

Yup. I've been there. We used a combination of cameras to monitor and pneumatic road tubes to count the traffic.

Roundabouts are the worst thing ever invented and because they're cheaper than traffic lights...we get them.

The data says otherwise. We have clear data that they're safer, more efficient, and take up less space than other methods of moving that volume of traffic.

You can start here:

 


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