Almost always, the version that gets into a release is the current stable version, as long as it has been available long enough for extensive testing. Debian Stable does not do bleeding edge. I would expect Forky to have KDE 6.something, probably 6.5, which has X11 as an option. 6.6 has been out for awhile, and it's still not even in the Debian Unstable repo, which is still on 6.5. I would be amazed to see no X11 option in Forky KDE.
What Desktop Environment do you use?
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Why do you need X11?
Have you tried Wayland lately?
I thought I needed X11 too, until Debian and KDE got the bugs out of Wayland. And I really like how it gets dual monitor (each are different sizes) setups right. I've been running Wayland for months now, and I'm a satisfied customer.
CaffeineAddict
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I need it because not all programs work well on wayland.
Last time I tried it was some 6 months ago:
- PasswordSafe doesn't work with wayland
- VSCode was sluggish in diff editor
- Navigating bookmark menus in Firefox selected items I didn't select
This are 3 programs I don't want to dump only because some hero at KDE wants it.
All these work with wayland for me.
CaffeineAddict
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That's impossible, there is no password safe update that addresses wayland problems.
Does auto type work for instance?
I forgot to add that screen is blurry under wayland/KDE and KDE devs know this, but IDK if they managed to fix it.
CaffeineAddict
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It runs yes, every software runs, but question is how?
Don't know what this means but if password autotype doesn't work then that's problem because it's very special thing that adds to security.
And I see your screenshot is not clear, I see it's still blurry, how can you live with that?
CaffeineAddict
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I'm really not in mood to enable wayland right now to test again, but anyway you're not showing in screenshots what I reported that doesn't work.
You're showing normal editor in VSCode but I said that diff editor didn't work well, to be precise scrolling the diff editor was sluggish.
And launching password safe is 1 thing, while rt click on a password entry and selecting auto-type to type creds into a browser is another thing.
I'm not sure if you can reproduce the 3rd problem also, FF bookmark menus, I have 6K bookmarks and tons of menus, selecting menu X resulted in selecting not X but some Y menu (or bookmark).
I'll test again some other time if you want some screenshots to prove my point that wayland is not ready.
Can we assume that the latest updates are installed?
CaffeineAddict
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ofc. they were when I was testing.
Just a caution here, folks, some of this input is going off topic.
I very much appreciate that there are differing opinions and experiences from and by Members on X11 and Wayland, but this thread is based on a poll for desktop environments used...nothing else.
TIA
Chris Turner
wizardfromoz
I very much appreciate that there are differing opinions and experiences from and by Members on X11 and Wayland, but this thread is based on a poll for desktop environments used...nothing else.
TIA
Chris Turner
wizardfromoz
Rocketing-warp9
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As long as it's Linux.. it's fine for me!
Now that I got a spare computer up and running, I've been testing some things. The other day I installed Devuan with the LXQt desktop on it. It looks good (I know, that's just the theming), but one thing I couldn't figure out, and am assuming it doesn't have it, is a right click option to open files/folders as an administrator (superuser). However nice LXQt is, that is a deal breaker for me.
Next up, testing Trinity (on ExeGnu Linux).
Next up, testing Trinity (on ExeGnu Linux).
I'm using Xfce on Xubuntu on my main computer. I wanted something light and minimalistic and Xfce worked out.
I have a secondary computer that I just use for distro-hopping and messing around. I have Fedora on that one at the moment with KDE Plasma. It has great features and the interface looks very polished and modern but it's probably a little too heavy for that particular computer.
I have a secondary computer that I just use for distro-hopping and messing around. I have Fedora on that one at the moment with KDE Plasma. It has great features and the interface looks very polished and modern but it's probably a little too heavy for that particular computer.
TheGreatBritishNinja
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I'm using Gnome right now, I've used regular Ubuntu for a few months now and haven't really felt a need to change anything around. I'm happy to stick with defaults as long as it's not getting in my way. That said, I do want to start exploring other options to see if I actually prefer something else.
On non-Puppy Linux I always use MATE. Don't run a lot of those these days tbh. Did run Endeavour (Arch based) for a while but ended up with Puppy (again)
On my pups I usually run JWMdesk which is a windowmanager/desktop manager rather than a DE. Highly customizable yet it keeps the minimalist look which I prefer, keeps things organized.
Lately I'm playing around with Compiz as well to create 3D desktop and window effects. Compiz is great, you can go nuts if you want to without increasing the workload on your Puppy to the point it slows down to a crawl due to RAM depletion.
On my pups I usually run JWMdesk which is a windowmanager/desktop manager rather than a DE. Highly customizable yet it keeps the minimalist look which I prefer, keeps things organized.
Lately I'm playing around with Compiz as well to create 3D desktop and window effects. Compiz is great, you can go nuts if you want to without increasing the workload on your Puppy to the point it slows down to a crawl due to RAM depletion.
Welcome to the Linux.org forum, enjoy!
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