What are Your Takes On "GNU Purism"

[amalxloop]

Now Before You Barge At Me Let Me Make Few Things Clear, I Myself Admire Stallman. Moreover I respect The Gnu Project, And I do believe FOSS is The Way, So I just Want To Know Everyone's Opinions,
Healthy Discussions Are Encouraged

 

[piorunz]

Why Are You Typing Like This? It's A New Teenager Thing, Or What?

 

[Rocketing-warp9]

To me, I must say-
A- Is it a boot loader?
B- Can I modify it (Even if IDK How)
C-Is it free?

Any boot loader that fits this Criteria Is A-OK with me.
I am tied in no particular attachment to any Bootloader-- As long as it boots linux, I'm fine with it.
(With one exception of Old PPC Mac firmware, as that included the Linux logo built in on the PPC G4 Systems- This is when I really respected apple)

 

[CaffeineAddict]

Why Are You Typing Like This? It's A New Teenager Thing, Or What?

It's Called Camel Case Lol. The Op Must Be A Coder or Smth.

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I don't like GNU OS's because they don't use Linux, they have their own kernel called Hurd.
Everything else, I respect FSF and GNU.

I'm on Stallman's side when it comes to his criticism about how Linux project failed to give credit to GNU. (you know the whole thing calling it a Linux OS is wrong)

 

[f33dm3bits]

I don't like GNU OS's because they don't use Linux, they have their own kernel called Hurd.
Everything else, I respect FSF and GNU.

There's Linux distributions that have GNU approval.

List of Free GNU/Linux Distributions - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation

www.gnu.org

If I remember it right I think Richard Stallman even uses Trisquel.

 

[CaffeineAddict]

There's Linux distributions that have GNU approval.

Nobody uses these distros, I've not yet heard on this forums someone using any one of them; probably the only exception is PureOS

If I remember it right I think Richard Stallman even uses Trisquel.

I know he said he never installed "GNU slash Linux" (that's how he calls what most people call "Linux")

 

[f33dm3bits]

I know he said he never installed "GNU slash Linux" (that's how he calls what most people call "Linux")

How I do my Computing

stallman.org

As of 2022 I use a Thinkpad x200 computer, which has a free initialization program (called Libreboot when it was installed, but now called GNU Boot) and a free operating system (Trisquel GNU/Linux). It was not sold that way by Lenovo, however; small businesses buy them used, recondition them, and install the free software. This is one of the computers endorsed by the FSF. I've used other Thinkpad models that similarly respect users' freedom since the early 2010s.

 

[CaffeineAddict]

How I do my Computing

stallman.org

He's using Ubuntu based system?? probably he was drunk while writing this lol

 

[f33dm3bits]

He's using Ubuntu based system?? probably he was drunk while writing this lol

It doesn't use the Linux kernel most distributions use.

Documentation | Trisquel GNU/Linux - Run free!

trisquel.info

What is Trisquel?
Trisquel GNU/Linux is a distribution of the GNU operating system, with the kernel GNU Linux-libre.

Trisquel comes ready for home and office use, and new programs are easy to find and install. Our documentation will help you explore your options.

Trisquel is free. We mean "free" in the freedom software sense.

 

[CaffeineAddict]

I didn't know "GNU Linux-libre" exists, it make some sense now.

 

[amalxloop]

It's Called Camel Case Lol. The Op Must Be A Coder or Smth.

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I don't like GNU OS's because they don't use Linux, they have their own kernel called Hurd.
Everything else, I respect FSF and GNU.

I'm on Stallman's side when it comes to his criticism about how Linux project failed to give credit to GNU. (you know the whole thing calling it a Linux OS is wrong)

Yeah, I am a Programmer.

 

[CaffeineAddict]

Yeah, I am a Programmer.

Awesome, me to, but I'm amateur.
curious do you hack too?

 

[amalxloop]

Awesome, me to, but I'm amateur.
curious do you hack too?

Yes. No, i don`t hack Social Media accounts, And I Primarily Do Bug Bounty and Stuff

 

[CaffeineAddict]

Yes. No, i don`t hack Social Media accounts, And I Primarily Do Bug Bounty and Stuff

White hat ha? not bad man. I think I'm going to follow you

note: You should be proud because I don't follow just any person here.

 

[piorunz]

He's using Ubuntu based system?? probably he was drunk while writing this lol

Despite his controversial opinion and age, I am glad we have him, he did a lot of good for Linux and open source in general.

Trisquel distro he is using is fully libre, meaning it doesn't offer any closed source drivers at all, no binary blobs. Everything is open source. At the same time it tracks Ubuntu so it's modern with fresh software. Latest Trisquel is based on Ubuntu 24.04 and will be supported until 2029. Not a bad choice.

 

[KGIII]

I prefer FOSS, but I'll use proprietary software when it does a better job -- or when there are no realistic alternatives.

My preference is FOSS. I'm not against paying for software. In fact, I do pay for some software. (I also donate to some projects.) It's not a money thing, it's a rights thing. While there's little chance that I'll dive deep into the programming of an application, it's nice to know that I can do so, or that I can pay someone to do so on my behalf.

So, yes, I use proprietary software. (You're using proprietary software right now.) I prefer FOSS when I can, but I'm not a zealot or anything like that. What matters most to me is the results.

 

[piorunz]

Anyone interested should try "virtual Richard M. Stallman" package.

DESCRIPTION
       This  program began as an attempt to create a "virtual Richard M. Stall‐
       man" for Debian GNU/Linux.  Thus the choice of name.

       This program analyzes the currently-installed package list on  a  Debian
       GNU/Linux system, and reports the non-free and contrib packages that are
       currently  installed  to stdout.  In some cases, such as regarding docu‐
       mentation licensed under the GNU Free Documentation License with invari‐
       ant sections, the opinions  of  Richard  M.   Stallman  and  the  Debian
       project  have  diverged  since  this program was originally written.  In
       such cases, this program follows the definition of freedom  embodied  in
       the Debian Free Software Guidelines.

       The  packages in the non-free tree have restrictions on their use and/or
       distribution which cause them to fail to meet the terms  of  the  Debian
       Free Software Guidelines included as part of the Debian Social Contract.
       However,  some are sufficiently useful that their presence is often tol‐
       erated by Debian users despite their licensing.

       The packages in the contrib tree are themselves free software  but  have
       some dependency on non-free software for their use that make them worthy
       of reporting so that their use can also be consciously considered.

       Richard  is  the  most vocal among us on the issue of software morality,
       and we agree with Richard that Debian users should have an easy  way  to
       know  when  they  are  running non-free software on their systems.  This
       program is our attempt to fill that need.

$ vrms
               Non-free packages installed on ryzen

amd64-microcode                     Platform firmware and microcode for AMD CPUs and SoCs
firmware-amd-graphics               Binary firmware for AMD/ATI graphics and NPU chips

                Contrib packages installed on ryzen

lutris                              video game preservation platform
steam-installer                     Valve's Steam digital software delivery system
torbrowser-launcher                 helps download and run the Tor Browser Bundle
winetricks                          simple tool to work around common problems in Wine

  2 non-free packages, 0.1% of 2143 installed packages.
  4 contrib packages, 0.2% of 2143 installed packages.