What A Difference A Kernel Makes.

On the Mint site they say just run the Driver Manager...simple and everything is wonderful.
https://linuxmint-installation-guide.readthedocs.io/en/latest/drivers.html

What they don't say is this Kernel 6.14.0-35 has problems...so if you have a Graphics Card good luck. Because 22.2 is a new version of Mint...there's nothing to roll back to.

So what you need to do is...go to the Update Manager...View...Linux Kernels...continue...and remove 6.14.0-35. Go down to 6.8 and click...Install...close and restart. Now restart tapping the Shift Key to bring the Grub menu.

Go down to 6.8.0-87...hit Enter...the computer will restart. Go to the Update Manager...View...Linux Kernels...continue...you'll see this...using 6.8.0-87. Double click 6.14.0-35 and click Remove then...Yes. Once done restart...now your using 6.8.0-87...now you can install your Graphics Card in the Driver Manager...easy isn't it. :eek: How is a beginner to know and do this. :rolleyes:
Had a similar problem here with 6.14 and reverted to 6.8 and it went away. was getting screen tearing with 6.14. I have an older intel graphics card which did not like 6.14 or 6.12. Newer is not always better :)
 


I have an older intel graphics card which did not like 6.14 or 6.12. Newer is not always better :)
If there is a security vulnerability in a kernel that is patched in the newer kernel and not in the old EOL kernel I would feel safer using a maintained kernel, unless that system never has an internet connection.
 
older intel graphics card which did not like 6.14 or 6.12
yep i have noticed the last couple of years that backwards compatible is slowly becoming uncomputable, and it seems heritage drivers are loosing kernel support, but then it may not be ideal, there is always Puppy
 
If there is a security vulnerability in a kernel that is patched in the newer kernel and not in the old EOL kernel I would feel safer using a maintained kernel, unless that system never has an internet connection.
Of course that is correct. but 6.8 is a long term kernel and will receive security updates til 2029.
 
Of course that is correct. but 6.8 is a long term kernel and will receive security updates til 2029.
6.8 Isn't an LTS release. These are:

Longterm release kernels
Version Maintainer Released Projected EOL
6.12 Greg Kroah-Hartman & Sasha Levin 2024-11-17 Dec, 2026
6.6 Greg Kroah-Hartman & Sasha Levin 2023-10-29 Dec, 2026
6.1 Greg Kroah-Hartman & Sasha Levin 2022-12-11 Dec, 2027
5.15 Greg Kroah-Hartman & Sasha Levin 2021-10-31 Dec, 2026
5.10 Greg Kroah-Hartman & Sasha Levin 2020-12-13 Dec, 2026
5.4 Greg Kroah-Hartman & Sasha Levin 2019-11-24 Dec, 2025
Source: https://www.kernel.org/releases.html
 
6.8 is will be update by Ubuntu until April 2029.
Then it makes sense, then Canonical is just doing back-port patches on those kernels used in Ubuntu LTS. That had slipped my mind, I was just thinking in terms of upstream kernel support first.
 
If there is a security vulnerability in a kernel that is patched in the newer kernel and not in the old EOL kernel I would feel safer using a maintained kernel, unless that system never has an internet connection.

Kernel is supported til 2029...
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If 6.8 had a security issue...then why does Mint tell people to install Mint 22.1 which has 6.8 and upgrade to 22.2 which will avoid 6.14.
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It's the latest one in 22.1 and can be installed in 22.2.
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This is all I need to see...Mint 22.2...Kernel and Graphic Card installed and working...
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;)
 
Kernel is supported til 2029...
You are correct. I had been looking at upstream instead of at the Ubuntu supported kernel which I mentioned in my other reply.

Then it makes sense, then Canonical is just doing back-port patches on those kernels used in Ubuntu LTS. That had slipped my mind, I was just thinking in terms of upstream kernel support first.
 
@bob466 :-

Snap! I thought I was the only one daft enough to run a GT 710...

(No insult intended here. As you're doubtless aware, this is the card gamers LOVE to take the p**s out of. Me, I bought it for two reasons:-

  • I wanted a silent GPU (this is the 'passive-cooler' here)
  • I needed summat with a low power draw - just 19W thru the slot - 'cos HP have saddled this Pavilion with a weird, slimline, low-output PSU (only 180W).....which you CANNOT upgrade for love or money.

I further discovered at a later date that even if you swap the mobo into another case, you still can't upgrade the PSU because this is a custom HP board with proprietary connectors... Grrr!)

So; I'm guessing you, too, are also stuck with older drivers..? Me, I'm considering an upgrade to the GT 1030; still crap as far as gamers are concerned, but this is at least 386 'Pascal' cores (as opposed to 192 'Kepler' cores in the GT 710) and the newest drivers still support it ATM...

It's basically the GT 710 on steroids.....although it's getting a wee bit pricy now (and I still want the 'passive-cooler').

Sorry for going a bit "off-topic" here, guys. :oops:


Mike. ;)
 
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Two years old Graphics card is not old. :eek:
 
@bob466 :-

Yes, you quite likely DID buy it new a couple of years ago. I did with my own, around early 2022 (to me, the card is "only" 3 yrs old, or at least, that's when Asus built the card itself).....but so far as Nvidia are concerned, the design of the 'Kepler'-architecture GPU dates all the way back to 2013 - that's when those chips were first released onto the market.

The GPU might "only" be 2 years old to you.....but as far as driver support goes, that's a 12-year old chip design. And that puts it beyond the 10-yr support period.

No reason we can't keep using them though. Mine is working fine......and continues to do so. I finally got around to ordering a GT 1030 yesterday, so that'll be here early next week. And THEN.....we shall see.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~​

I found out why these older chips came back into the market when they did a few years ago. It was partly in response to the crypto boom pushing GPU prices sky-high (folks were desperate for new cards - ANY card!).....and partly due to there also being a craze for HTPCs. The Asus GT 710 with the 4 HDMI ports - the one I have here - is both low-profile, AND silent. And that makes them ideal for HTPCs.....so a stockpile of older GPU chips, it seems, got put to good use.

Don't forget; Asus (and EVGA, Gigabyte, MSI, etc) buy the chips in from Nvidia, but then build their own card designs around them. So that would, I guess, mean they all have "left-over" chips kicking around in their warehouses, somewhere.

(Off-topic AGAIN. Sorry!)


Mike. ;)
 
Kernel 6.14 is supported till Feb 2026...it will be very interesting to see what Kernel pops up after this...maybe 6.8 as this Kernel is supported till 2029.

Anyway I'm back on Mint Cinnamon 22.1 using Kernel 6.8 and everything is good.
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This means I'll have to keep Mint Cinnamon 22.2 on my spare SSD till then.
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Kernel 6.14 is supported till Feb 2026...it will be very interesting to see what Kernel pops up after this...maybe 6.8 as this Kernel is supported till 2029.

Anyway I'm back on Mint Cinnamon 22.1 using Kernel 6.8 and everything is good. View attachment 28682

This means I'll have to keep Mint Cinnamon 22.2 on my spare SSD till then. View attachment 28681
Mint 22.2 runs fine on kernel 6.8 also. that's what I'm running here.
 
An easy way to see if the Graphics Drivers are loaded in Linux Mint...

Type sys in the search box...click System Reports...System Information...go to Graphics.
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