Need help installing wine

[IbChristian]

Hi.

I'm trying to install wine, I found this video:

And got as far as this command and I keep getting this error message:

chris@chris-Latitude-E6510:~$ wget -O - https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/winehq.key | sudo gpg --dearmor -o /etc/apt/keyrings/winehq-archive.key ---2026-01-11 07:52:37-- https://dl.wine.org/wine-builds/winehq.key
--2026-04-03 16:25:51-- https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/winehq.key
gpg: invalid option "---2026-01-11"ine.org/wine-builds/winehq.key
Resolving dl.winehq.org (dl.winehq.org)... 2a04:4e42:d::729, 151.101.14.217
Connecting to dl.winehq.org (dl.winehq.org)|2a04:4e42:d::729|:443... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 3212 (3.1K) [application/pgp-keys]
Saving to: ‘STDOUT’

- 0%[ ] 0 --.-KB/s in 0.003s


Cannot write to ‘-’ (Success).
chris@chris-Latitude-E6510:~$

I double checked the command three times and cannot find where I may have goofed. What's causing Cannot write to '-' ?
Did I goof? Is this command no longer valid??

 

[bob466]

That video is too hard for me...I like to install wine the easy way.

Open the Terminal and copy and paste,,,

sudo apt install wine

When done...type... wine --version and hit Enter.
You'll see this...

To install software for the first time in Linux Mint Cinnamon 22.1...Lets install Wave Editor...very old 32bit software I used in windoze xp.

For the first time only...right click and select..Open with Other Application...go to the bottom and type wine..then Set as Default...OK.

Wine will install mono etc...from memory as I installed wine some time ago...go to the .exe file..click open with...select wine...the install will start...here it is installed...

Now in you go to the Mint Menu..you'll see Wine in the All Applications list with the software you've installed.
Note...not all windoze software works with wine...it's a hit and miss affair.

Hope this helps.

 

[Condobloke]

not all windoze software works with wine...it's a hit and miss affair.

That is absolutely correct.
I tried in 2013 and recognised the futility of using some other damn thing to attempt to stay with windows in some way. It is a lost cause.

Using mate is (imo) another waste of space as a substitute for windows. It has less support than cinnamon, and definitely marches to the beat of a different drum.

Initially I found looking for 'alternative' apps/programs on : https://alternativeto.net/

Then my interest became absorbed by Linux, completely.

Now....not a windows app in sight....Zero. And no need for one either.

10+ years of freedom. Priceless. Worth taking the dive.

 

[bob466]

I have a w7 VM for one piece of software but I did install the windoze version of Ventoy to see how easy it would be and it was.

The only trouble was I couldn't update Ventoy in windoze because the VM isn't connected to the net and we all know why.

 

[IbChristian]

I tried in 2013 and recognised the futility of using some other damn thing to attempt to stay with windows in some way. It is a lost cause.

Using mate is (imo) another waste of space as a substitute for windows. It has less support than cinnamon, and definitely marches to the beat of a different drum.

I tried Cinnamon, I didn't like it. Mate feels more welcoming for me. As with many others, I'm sure, I came from Windows, but NOT 10 or 11; I came from windows 7. I still have it on my desktop computer. The reason I migrated to Linux for my laptop is because after almost 2 decades it finally crashed and wouldn't load (hardware fault, not Windows) and I didn't have the original installation disk. Besides, W-7 is just getting too damn old. Even files generated by the programs that do run on it are becoming unusable by anything else.

As for trying to stay with a program designed for Windows, in that I have no choice. Not only is there no Linux equivalent, there is no version for any OS. Not Linux, not Mac, not even Windows. And yes, I checked https://alternativeto.net/. Nor have I found a reasonable substitute, including "cloud based" utilities. So running this old Windows based software is my ONLY choice.

I'm trying to see if I can use Linux on my desktop as well. If there was an acceptable linux or online alternative, believe me, I would use it. As noted in my signature, I don't want any more complication than is absolutely necessary!

 

[bob466]

OP,

You asked how to install wine...did you try what I suggested or did I just waste my time ?

 

[Condobloke]

So running this old Windows based software is my ONLY choice.

So we can fully understand, what is this software ?

It is equally possible that the software is so far in the past, that nothing will run it, and you will be left an angry man because of its eventual demise.,....total demise.

It is time to take a step up, clear the cobwebs and find a different approach.

The entire Internet is at your disposal, and the members here are only too willing to help in your search.

 

[IbChristian]

OP,

You asked how to install wine...did you try what I suggested or did I just waste my time ? View attachment 31193

Your command:

sudo apt install wine

Is that the same as installing it from the software manager? If so then yes, I tried it. What I got was a bunch of packages with no way to launch the program. The method shown on the video ends with a launched and working version of wine. Hopefully, if I can find my error and get it right I'll get the same result.

I don't find anything complicated about it; I'm just typing what's on the screen into the Terminal. Now if I did type something wrong then I currently have not the knowledge to find it.

Hence this thread.

 

[IbChristian]

So we can fully understand, what is this software ?

It is equally possible that the software is so far in the past, that nothing will run it, and you will be left an angry man because of its eventual demise.,....total demise.

It is time to take a step up, clear the cobwebs and find a different approach.

The entire Internet is at your disposal, and the members here are only too willing to help in your search.

DeLorme Topo USA v.8.0; which was originally made for Windows XP. So I wouldn't be surprised if noone on this entire board has even heard of it.

However I haven't even been able to get Wine on board and working yet to to see if it will work or not.

If it doesn't work on Wine (or any other utility) then I'll just have to keep Windows 7 on my desktop. It's still working fine, so no harm, no foul. I'm just seeing if I can put Linux on it as well.

 

[IbChristian]

SO JUST TO CLARIFY...

This thread is about getting wine to work on my computer, NOT the software I intend to run with it.

 

[Condobloke]

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Just a few links that may bring you some joy.

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With : Is DeLorme Topo still maintained: used as the search query, there are many, many results there which I have not linked.

HTH

 

[Condobloke]

Using wine is not my thing, never has been and never will be.

I will leave that to others better versed than I am

 

[IbChristian]

CondoBloke: Thanks for the leads, but Garmin no longer makes Topo USA, or any other of their Topo series softwares. Of the three substitutes you gave, BaseCamp is the most similar. Unfortunately, Garmin has this thing about Linux; they've been asked many times but refuse to make anything compatible. Maptitude is also not Linux friendly.

InReach is a handheld device, not map making software.

This is why I'm trying to find something that will run what I have on Linux - there are no substitutes. I know, I am not lazy; I've been doing research, I've been looking for nearly a year. And I just heard that Wine will soon be dropping all support for anything that uses 32 bit. So I am working on a limited timeline.

 

[bob466]

I tried my best.

 

[MikeWalsh]

Is that the same as installing it from the software manager? If so then yes, I tried it. What I got was a bunch of packages with no way to launch the program. The method shown on the video ends with a launched and working version of wine. Hopefully, if I can find my error and get it right I'll get the same result.

@IbChristian :-

Umm.....okay. Right, right; er.....how best to explain this?

You're not the first one to get confused about this, I can promise you that. And sure as eggs are eggs, you will NOT be the last.

WINE is NOT a 'program', as such. What it IS, is an open-source, real-time implementation of Windows, running within a sandboxed, self-contained directory known as a 'prefix'. In much the same way that any OS provides an 'environment' within which you can run software, so WINE provides a Windows 'environment' within which you can run Windows programs...

It's NOT an emulator. And it's NOT a VM (virtual machine), either. WINE is very definitely its own thing.

With me so far?

So; having installed WINE - from the distro's own repos is usually easiest - the very first thing you have to do is to 'configure' it. And the simplest way to do this is to open a terminal, type in

wine wineconfig

The first 'wine' tells the system to run anything that follows within the WINE environment. The next word - 'wineconfig' - tells WINE itself to run the script that will create the directory ".wine" (a hidden directory) inside your /home/user directory. This is the one that contains a full, open-source implementation of Windows, running in 'real-time'. Follow the pop-up windows, and answer 'Yes' to all selections.

When the 'wineconfig' script has finished, you should get something like the following window appear:-

(This is from an older version of WINE. More recent builds will LOOK more 'modern'.....lighter colours, different fonts. Still the same GUI, though.)

At the bottom of the default tab, you can select the version of Windows you want to run your program under. Select, click on 'Apply', then 'Ok'.

WINE is now ready to use.

Install a Windows program in the normal way; just click on its .exe installer & follow the prompts. (The first time, you may need to tell the system what command to use to run Windows programs. It'll need to be entered something like 'wine[space]whatever', and will be somewhere in the 'Properties' box - accessible via right-click on the item - in your file-manager. (I can't be more specific, because this will vary from one file-manager to another.....and Puppy's default ROX-Filer is unlike anything else out there!)

To run any Windows program, open a terminal, type

wine /full/path/to/your/program

Mike.

 

[MikeWalsh]

@IbChristian :-

A thought has occurred to me. (Heh; make the most of it.....it doesn't happen often!)

You might like to take a look at something called

Cruiser

It's Java-powered, hence it's cross-platform by nature. I've used this on & off for years myself....but for some reason it just didn't 'register' as possessing similar functionality.

You won't be able to use any of your already created DeLorme files, and it doesn't have the '3D' capability. It does, however, provide a good selection of online map styles, along with the ability to download more. You can choose type of map - car, bike, walking, etc - and can plan out routes, too.

It also provides no way at all of printing off any route-planned map.....probably due to its developer having recently ported it to smartphones. I guess the thinking is that you would have the phone with you, so why would you want a printed copy?

Doesn't sound very positive, I know.....but it's the closest thing I can think of to what you want that will run 'natively' under Linux.

(shrug...)


Mike.

 

[bob466]

It would be much easier to use Virtualbox and install a windoze Virtual machine because wine...playonlinux and bottles are really not that good..just saying.

 

[rado84]

Note...not all windoze software works with wineView attachment 31185

Interesting claim. Name one.

 

[bob466]

Interesting claim. Name one.

A doubting Thomas...it's not a claim...it's a fact.
Name one...MakeMKV windoze version..it installs with wine but doesn't work.

Look at this...https://agirlamonggeeks.com/can-windows-programs-run-on-linux/ the part that says...
However, Wine has limitations:

• Not all Windows programs are fully compatible; some may crash or fail to run.
• Complex software with extensive dependencies or DRM protection may not function correctly.
• Performance may vary depending on the application and system configuration.

As I said...a VM is the way to go but Linux has heaps of software...so no need to use anything else.

 

[rado84]

A doubting Thomas...it's not a claim...it's a fact.
Name one...MakeMKV windoze version..it installs with wine but doesn't work.
View attachment 31246
Look at this...https://agirlamonggeeks.com/can-windows-programs-run-on-linux/ the part that says...
However, Wine has limitations:

• Not all Windows programs are fully compatible; some may crash or fail to run.
• Complex software with extensive dependencies or DRM protection may not function correctly.
• Performance may vary depending on the application and system configuration.

As I said...a VM is the way to go but Linux has heaps of software...so no need to use anything else. View attachment 31247

1. This krap is written in Java and I'm not surprised. Whatever was written in Java for Winblows, VERY RARELY it will run properly in Linux. This MakeMKV detected only a DVD disc (after I tricked it to think that /dev/sr0 has the letter O:\ (for "Optical"). When I put in a BD, it couldn't detect it.
2. The second time I ran the program it said O:\ wasn't a valid Winblows letter. (call it Java and don't insult it anymore!)
3. If you're using this pathetic program to "RIP" BD into mkv, that's pointless because the M2TS (or just TS) usually found in there is also a container like MKV. So all you need is to find the right file (usually the largest), copy it to your SSD and rename it to MKV. No programs needed, unless you plan to convert it later.