Solved Install an app inside Bottles

[Sherri is a Cat]

• I have bottles installed.
• I created a Bottle.
• I'm having trouble with the next part, installing Zoom inside a Bottle.
• I've tried twice now using 2 different Zoom installers and 2 different Bottles
  • Neither of them work.
• 
• 

First Bottle

2nd Bottle

• 	'Join Meeting' should be blue, not shaded.

Yesterday I watched YouTube videos trying to understand how to do this. I quit when I couldn't take the sound of ticking speakers any longer. Today I'm following the tutorial written by Jarret B. Bottles - Run Windows software on Linux with Bottles

I don't know if I'm doing something wrong or if I need a different installer for Zoom.

Anyone know what I should do?

 

[spacebanana]

Zoom has an official linux port that works out of the box, you can just use that

 

[Sherri is a Cat]

Zoom has an official linux port that works out of the box, you can just use that

I have a lot of issues with both the flatpak and the one available on the Zoom website.

 

[Sherri is a Cat]

Zoom has an official linux port that works out of the box, you can just use that

Zoom routinely malfunctions. It causes all kinds of trouble that I'm sick of dealing with. I just want to contain the mess.

 

[spacebanana]

Best way to contain it is to run it directly from the web browser. When you open a conference it shows the link/button to open it in the browser. It's a bit hidden

 

[CaffeineAddict]

Best way to contain it is to run it directly from the web browser.

She wants to contain it from host OS due to lack of trust

@Sherri is a Cat It's time to convert your friends to Linux or at least signal app.

Another alternative is https://meet.jit.si

 

[theLegionWithin]

I did some testing myself and I was able to get as far as @Sherri is a Cat did in zoom2 (the win7 one) but no further. it may be that bottles and zoom just dont play well together.

@Sherri is a Cat, you did some VM testing I think, previously? did you try current winOS in the VM or win7 in the VM for zoom?

 

[MikeWalsh]

@theLegionWithin :-

I did some testing myself and I was able to get as far as @Sherri is a Cat did in zoom2 (the win7 one) but no further. it may be that bottles and zoom just dont play well together.

Bottles & Zoom.......PlayOnLinux & Zoom.......Proton & Zoom.....Lutris & ....

Anything based around WINE has enormous issues with Chromium code-base. The above all use WINE underneath, so.....go figure.

Zoom MAY have worked under WINE up till a coupla years ago. Not something I ever tried, but that's around the time when the Zoom devs took it into their heads to add the Chromium-based Electron framework to what was already a 'beefy' app.

It ballooned from 300MB to almost 700MB (for a simple video-calling app? Jee-zus H...)

It might be possible to run it within a 'zilla-based browser under WINE. These used to run OK with the emulation layer, though I haven't done so for a while; things may have changed.......but I've never had any luck with Chromium, Chrome, Brave, Vivaldi, Opera, Slimjet OR Edge under WINE (of ANY flavour).

The older Zoom would happily run for months, even years before you eventually got 'nudged' into updating. Electron constantly checks for updates, and any time you get more than a couple of Chromium releases behind it locks up solid and point-blank refuses to run. This is for your OWN good, apparently.

Big Brother and Nanny Zoom are looking out for you..... (yeah, ri-i-i-ght).


Mike.

 

[Sherri is a Cat]

Maybe dependencies? I'm just beginning to actually understand so who knows.

 

[Sherri is a Cat]

She wants to contain it from host OS due to lack of trust

Thus is actually the last reason for all of this.

When I get home I'll expand on that.

 

[Sherri is a Cat]

@theLegionWithin @spacebanana @CaffeineAddict

Privacy is not the only reason

 

[Sherri is a Cat]

It seems that the problem may have something to do with X11, Wayland... Apparently LM began to 'experiment' with Wayland support with the LM 21.3 release. I'm seeing enough references to problems resulting from this adoption that I have decided to close this thread. It's only 'Solved' in the sense that this doesn't appear to be a good option. I'm not versed enough to describe the conflict so I'll just leave it at that.

With my newfound knowledge I have thought of another avenue to pursue...


Thank you all for your help and input! Even if you were grumbling under your breath! This is how I learn. I have a problem, I find an answer and learn along the way.

 

[Sherri is a Cat]

I think this is worth mentioning here...

I made an assumption on a possible reason for not being able to install Zoom in a Bottle. As I said in my closing post, there have been issues regarding LM's adoption of Wayland. I assumed that LM 22.1 has fully adopted Wayland and this is the reason for not being able to put Zoom in a bottle.

It's actually the other way around. The default setting is still X11 and Wayland being an experimental desktop setting. This makes me wonder if Bottles would work using the Wayland experimental setting instead of the default...

I'm not sure I'm going to try to find out that would make a difference or not, at least not yet.

 

[Brickwizard]

This thread reminds me, i must install a 32 bit VM for my language discs, [its 24 years old] but fulfills my requirements [learn the basics and curtsies of another language for a country I have not been to before. [it wont run on wine aith 32 bit codecs]