zram in antix. it's exist?

[lazy_lain]

so before through installing antix? its suggested me to install zram and i approved, but after i finished the instalattion its write "zram is failed" iirc, no problem i ingored it

and after that i tried to install zram-tools but after i type sudo service zramswap reload
the output its
grep: /etc/init.d/zramswap: No such file or directory

so i realized that zram tools work in systemd distros so i searched about this subject what i found is

in artix they used zramen who work in runit (i use runit in artix btw) so i tried to installed it but after that, i found there is no zramen in atrix packages

i know the artix who ran from ram its lightweight distro but i surprised that zram not work in free systemd and thats why i write this post

 

[Trml]

Have a look at man zramctl. It has an example how to enable it manually. Zram itself is part of the Linux kernel: https://docs.kernel.org/admin-guide/blockdev/zram.html

Yes, you need to integrate it for purposes of setup/suspend/resume, which is what systemd automates. I can't tell you how to do it best with runit, but the core part should already be installed for you with the kernel.

 

[lazy_lain]

Have a look at man zramctl. It has an example how to enable it manually. Zram itself is part of the Linux kernel: https://docs.kernel.org/admin-guide/blockdev/zram.html

Yes, you need to integrate it for purposes of setup/suspend/resume, which is what systemd automates. I can't tell you how to do it best with runit, but the core part should already be installed for you with the kernel.

hi mate

thx for you help but i guess i will give up and move to mx linux until i found another free systemd distro

not bcs of zram but its flatpak is not supported in this distro, also i think the community is not activated instead of another distros community

but i enjoyed wiith this tast so i think this post its archived for me

(seriously i dont use my brain cells and tried to solve the problem so i dont blame this distro anymore,its great)

 

[KGIII]

until i found another free systemd distro

There are all sorts of free distros that use systemd.

If I read it like I think you may have meant, that is 'systemd-free' (meaning without systemd), it raises a question... It may even beg the question, but I digress.

Do you have some particular reason to avoid systemd? I think it's safe to conclude that the vast majority of Linux on the desktop users are using a distro with systemd. It's pretty handy, which is why all the major distros switched to it years ago. If it was going to cause major problems, I dare say that it'd have done so already.

As of now, history shows us that systemd is not setting the world on fire. It is not in fact a demon, though it does manage daemons. (Ha! I crack me up!)

 

[lazy_lain]

If I read it like I think you may have meant, that is 'systemd-free' (meaning without systemd), it raises a question... It may even beg the question, but I digress.

thats what i mean

i dont had any problem with systemd and i use it with debian, but just testing not-systemd inits in real hardware and know the deference between them to understand the init war in linux (i dont see the big deference by now)

systemd-free for ex: runit, you can run it in a low end hardware and run well if you need it for browsring, anything else i dont had any experience to talk about dis subject

and thx for ur advance <3

 

[KGIII]

but just testing not-systemd inits in real hardware

By all means, enjoy what you enjoy and learn all you wish to learn. Don't let me stop you. If anything, I'd encourage that.

systemd-free for ex: runit, you can run it in a low end hardware

As far as I know, you can use systemd just fine on low-end hardware. People have been doing so for a long time, including on those small single-board computers (SBCs). The SBC known as 'Raspberry Pi' even has its own operating Linux distro. That is known as Raspberry Pi OS, and it happily runs systemd.

Though, given today's more powerful SBCs, you might be speaking of even lower-end hardware. Still, the Pi OS has used systemd as far back as I remember.

NOTE: I am not trying to change your mind. I'm just sharing that systemd works well enough on old hardware. By no means should that stop you from doing what you're doing. I'm a huge fan of learning, even if just for the sake of learning.

 

[lazy_lain]

As far as I know, you can use systemd just fine on low-end hardware. People have been doing so for a long time, including on those small single-board computers (SBCs). The SBC known as 'Raspberry Pi' even has its own operating Linux distro. That is known as Raspberry Pi OS, and it happily runs systemd.

i know systemd works fine with low hardware and solve sysV problems

but i said this pov bcs i played 1080p60 with this potato pc and work without drop-frame in that case

and understood your pov is systemd most save init

 

[osprey]

thats what i mean

i dont had any problem with systemd and i use it with debian, but just testing not-systemd inits in real hardware and know the deference between them to understand the init war in linux (i dont see the big deference by now)

systemd-free for ex: runit, you can run it in a low end hardware and run well if you need it for browsring, anything else i dont had any experience to talk about dis subject

and thx for ur advance <3

A few forum threads on the subject of systemd and sysVinit may be of interest: https://www.linux.org/threads/advantages-of-systemd-over-sysvinit.49442, and, https://www.linux.org/threads/artix-linux-good-to-use.54917 (particularly post #15).

 

[edactually]

A few forum threads on the subject of systemd and sysVinit may be of interest: https://www.linux.org/threads/advantages-of-systemd-over-sysvinit.49442escape road, and, https://www.linux.org/threads/artix-linux-good-to-use.54917 (particularly post #15).

After reading through both threads, it seems like the debate between systemd and SysVinit is less about “which is objectively better” and more about trade-offs and philosophy.
I think the takeaway is that systemd wins in functionality and standardization, while SysVinit appeals more to those who value simplicity and control.

 

[wizardfromoz]

@lazy_lain

You have titled your thread

zram in antix. it's exist?​

but you say here

n artix they used zramen who work in runit (i use runit in artix btw) so i tried to installed it but after that, i found there is no zramen in atrix packages

which says

artix

Artix is an Arch-based distribution.

antiX is a Debian-based distribution.

Which one are you using?

Chris Turner
wizardfromoz

 

[lazy_lain]

which says

artix

Artix is an Arch-based distribution.

antiX is a Debian-based distribution.

Which one are you using?

i think you dont get it

i tried to setup zram tools in antix but no results i found

and i found zramen is on artix who based in arch

but i wil not talked about it bcs i moved now to mx linux (who is breaking after power out while im updating it)

 

[KGIII]

but i wil not talked about it bcs i moved now to mx linux (who is breaking after power out while im updating it)

That's usually fixed by running sudo dpkg --configure -a in your terminal.

 

[lazy_lain]

That's usually fixed by running sudo dpkg --configure -a in your terminal.

i know it nut i cant use tty bcs the kernel is broken

also there is mx rescue

but i installed another systemd-free artix who based in arch