What do you do with an old nvidia card that you can no longer get drivers for it?

I have something similar to @rado84 going on with my Puppies. Only in MY case, rather than a quick swap mechanism, I do it slightly differently.

Due to the way Nvidia driver installation works with our Pup, once the driver is installed that's it; there's no easy way to uninstall it & return to the nouveau driver OR a different "official" driver. But that's no problem.

Because Puppies are so tiny - in real terms - I just keep two versions of each Puppy.....one with the last, newest driver for the GT 710, and one with the most recent driver for the GT 1030. The GT 710 still functions fine; in my case, I just fancied a newer card within my budget, so I went for the GT 1030. (I found a good deal on an Inno3D GeForce variant, plus it had good reviews.....and it's a "silent" type - no fans! - which is important for me). The GT 710 is sitting in its box in a cupboard, carefully packed away, ready for re-use if & when it's ever needed.

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I keep one Puppy which runs with "nouveau" (standard trim), thus the card in use at any given time will make zero difference. If I need to swap cards, I'll do so when using this 'generic' Pup. The rest of the kennels - all 6 of them - will then get swapped over.....which will take perhaps 7 or 8 minutes in total.

The entire "kennels" occupies perhaps less storage space than does a single, popular, fully-installed 'mainstream' distro.....one of the big advantages of 'frugal' installs. Copies of both variants of the entire kennels occupies no more than 11 GB, tops. And this 'swapping-over' process - using simple copy'n'paste - is all scripted & automated in any case, so it'll only be a case of clicking on the script and leaving it to get on with it. (I'm a big believer in automation wherever possible.)

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I keep my Puppies small by 'sharing' a whole variety of 'portable' applications between them. These only ever get linked-in to each Puppy along with a Menu entry.....not 'installed', per se. We developed an entire eco-system of 'portable' apps for the Puppy community, because it's a concept that just gels really well with Puppy's somewhat oddball, yet highly versatile method of operation....and it helps to keep your Pup small & neat.

I never see the sense - when running multiple distros - of re-installing the same apps over & over again. It's a huge waste of drive space, so why NOT 'share' a single, fully-functioning & already set-up copy as many times as necessary? And this way, I just have one large directory, on the big secondary data drive, which contains the 'portable' library.....around 120 GB in total.

Well, it makes sense to me.

Yes, I know it sounds horrendously complicated - and, in truth, it DID take a while to set up initially! - but it works SO well it's untrue.

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@LinuxUserSince2013 :-

As for the weather radar apps, hmm... At the same time when I bought the GT 1030 late last year, I took the opportunity to 'max-out' the CPU on the Pavilion, and found a very sweet Core i7-8700 refurb on eBay for around GBP £50.....approx the same TDP, too. This has made a HUGE difference to how I do things in Puppy, and now lets me properly multitask and use that 32 GB RAM as I originally intended.

The only snag with my personal, favourite weather app - Ventusky - is that it doesn't make use of the GPU, and is entirely CPU-bound. It used to fairly well tie up the old Pentium G5400 - 2C/4T - when it was running.....but the Core i7-8700 - 6C/12T - shrugs it off, and barely seems to notice it, so that's another big plus point for my upgrade!

This stuff is all detailed here:-


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I'm no 'gamer', but on the odd occasions when I do 'mess-around' for the odd half-hour it's always with Linux-native, 'indie' stuff - never AAA+ titles - so that minimal 2 GB VRAM on both cards is ample for the task. There's a ton of really decent & highly-enjoyable Linux-native games out there which seem to be largely ignored; my personal preference is FPS stuff, and I really like the original Nexuiz from the early 2000s, which later 'morphed' into the community-maintained Xonotic. OpenArena (a Quake III port), Urban Terror & Red Eclipse also get a look-in from time to time.

I think it's fair to say I'm pretty happy with my current set-up. It just 'works' for me.


Mike. ;)
 
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Following Bleeding edge tech is costly no doubt, but that doesn't mean that discontinued but supported and available on the used market is not an option.

I got my supported AMD ATI Radeon 540 for $35, and while it likely doesn't support gamers it works and I'm sure there are others that do work that are not $300 to $1000.
@garyn :-

Apologies if it sounded like I was "taking a pop" at you, personally. FWIW, I wasn't....but that's by-the-by.

I generally don't mind buying second-hand gear; I've had network & sound cards in the past that have been A-OK, and as stated above I've no problems with second-hand CPUs; I've had a few over the years, and all have given sterling service.

Second-hand GPUs, I'm a bit wary about! They're the one item of hardware that often gets pushed, HARD.....and you never quite know what folk have been doing with 'em. Have they been generating crypto, or other stuff like that?

With my personal needs being fairly modest, I CAN just about afford to go for a new GPU at the bottom end of the market, since I have absolutely no use for these behemoth monsters that Team Green and Team Red are churning out at the top end.

Top & bottom of the matter boils down to this; your system cannot function without a CPU.....but a GPU is usually an "option".

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As for smartphones, heh; believe it or not, at the age of nearly 65 I have NEVER had a smartphone in my life. I wouldn't even know where to start. I'm happy with my Nokia 2660 'Flip', a retro-type 'dumbphone'......it literally gets used for nowt but calls and the odd text. Everything I need to do online gets done on the PC.

I've had crap eyesight since a very young age. It's not improving any as I age disgracefully, and I refuse to make it any worse by squinting at a tiny screen in the palm of my hand. When I do stuff, I much prefer a large monitor, a mouse, a proper keyboard and a nice comfy high-backed office chair. That's just me....

(shrug...)


Mike. ;)
 
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Mike, no problem at all.

I actually agree with you on buying used hardware, but with old supported iron going for under $25 the risk is small and since I buy a lot on Ebay, returns are always easy if the cost threshold exceeds the pain of going to the USPS :-)
 
You asked what do I do with an old GPU that I can't find drivers for it. And I told you that there's no such a thing as missing drivers on my computer. The two backup GPUs (1660 Ti and 1050 Ti) are in the wardrobe, the drivers are in my main storage (equivalent to the Windows' D:\ drive), so if, for whatever reason, I have to put either one back into the computer, it's a matter of about 2 minutes to have their driver up and runnin'.

I've always thought about the probable future and about "What if...", hence I keep the best driver versions for each video card, along with the GCC libs and the corresponding kernels that work with these drivers. Thus I'm prepared for any scenario.

My distro has always downloaded the driver for me. But not only that, just this year on one of my computers, I was using an nvidia driver, and had worked fine for me for a long time. Then an update came down that messed it up. It took me several days of trial and error to figure out which driver worked the best for me again! Therefor I got no idea how you are doing this.

The really old nvidia card, that I am talking about in my thread here, the distro I use don't even offer a driver for it anymore. That is why I am asking this question. I figured that other people have come to a time when the distros no longer offer the driver anymore so maybe they came up with another use for the nvidia card or something.
 
... Then an update came down that messed it up. It took me several days of trial and error to figure out which driver worked the best for me again! Therefor I got no idea how you are doing this.
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That exact thing happened to me on the last Nvidia update. The Nvidia website listed the driver number as supporting my card but most games would fail to launch while running that driver. The one game that did launch got much better performance.

I figure I'll wait and try the driver again when Xubuntu 26.04 comes out. It may work better there.
 
What do you do with an old Graphics Card...

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Amazing number of folks on here who toss hardware without a thought....because "up-to-date support" is SO much more important than anything else.

You guys must be rolling in it, that's all I can say.


Mike. o_O
 
Amazing number of folks on here who toss hardware without a thought....because "up-to-date support" is SO much more important than anything else.

You guys must be rolling in it
Lol, tech can be addictive, several years ago, a Chinese guy sold his kidney to be able to buy a brand new iphone. (because he had no money).

My only hardware purchase in the last 8 years was a GPU and PSU, and that's only because old PSU was toast, and I needed better GPU because games become more demanding.
Total cost was approx 400€, I forgot.

That's all I'm not starving to upgrade at all.
 
a Chinese guy sold his kidney to be able to buy a brand new iphone.

That actually led to five people being jailed and a giant settlement with the kid and his family.

Considering how impoverished the family was... Well... I mean, yeah? Maybe worth it? /s

(Not really. That was sarcasm. He ended up with a giant infection, renal failure, and is completely disabled today.)
 
Amazing number of folks on here who toss hardware without a thought....because "up-to-date support" is SO much more important than anything else.

You guys must be rolling in it, that's all I can say.


Mike. o_O
definitely not rolling in it. I wish I was. But my time and hair is valuable to me. Spending hours and days pulling my hair out trying to get something to work (which may stop on next update or upgrade) is not worth it to me. I don't go buying the latest greatest and newest. I almost always get used or refurbished. I also do refurbishing myself.
 
Amazing number of folks on here who toss hardware without a thought....because "up-to-date support" is SO much more important than anything else.

You guys must be rolling in it, that's all I can say.


Mike. o_O

Maybe that's the reason some are still using 32bit...didn't you just update your Graphics Card. :eek:
 
That exact thing happened to me on the last Nvidia update. The Nvidia website listed the driver number as supporting my card but most games would fail to launch while running that driver. The one game that did launch got much better performance.

I figure I'll wait and try the driver again when Xubuntu 26.04 comes out. It may work better there.

Since I don't game, that is not exactly my experience. My xfce panel started flashing every time I clicked on an icon it. Then when I tried to run the older recommended graphic driver the mintreport reported that something was crashing. I did some google searching and found out that it was the recommended graphic driver that was causing the crashing. And I also found out it was the latest graphic driver that was causing the panel to flash. So I had to keep researching and trial and error to find a graphic driver version that didn't cause either one of these issues. On that computer I am currently running the driver 570.211.01 from a Ubuntu PPA. Then I had to enable Force Composition Pipeline and Force Full Composition Pipeline to get the flashing to stop. Anyways that is the combination that happens to be working on that computer. I still wonder if I were to unhook the PPA, install the 570 from the Mint Repositories and enable the Force Composition Pipeline and Force Full Composition Pipeline it that would of fixed my problem too or not. I had to do so much messing around to try to get something to work correctly, that I didn't want to take the time undoing everything just to try that.
 
Since I don't game, that is not exactly my experience. My xfce panel started flashing every time I clicked on an icon it. Then when I tried to run the older recommended graphic driver the mintreport reported that something was crashing. I did some google searching and found out that it was the recommended graphic driver that was causing the crashing. And I also found out it was the latest graphic driver that was causing the panel to flash. So I had to keep researching and trial and error to find a graphic driver version that didn't cause either one of these issues. On that computer I am currently running the driver 570.211.01 from a Ubuntu PPA. Then I had to enable Force Composition Pipeline and Force Full Composition Pipeline to get the flashing to stop. Anyways that is the combination that happens to be working on that computer. I still wonder if I were to unhook the PPA, install the 570 from the Mint Repositories and enable the Force Composition Pipeline and Force Full Composition Pipeline it that would of fixed my problem too or not. I had to do so much messing around to try to get something to work correctly, that I didn't want to take the time undoing everything just to try that.
honestly that sounds like it is very time consuming to me and easier to just put in a newer graphic card.
 
Yeah. Which is fine for those of us with tons of spare cash floating around.....

Some of us aren't IN that fortunate position.

(shrug...)


Mike. o_O
Ask friends, neighbors, family if they have some laptops just laying around. I got two laptops fairly new free by just asking.
 
honestly that sounds like it is very time consuming to me and easier to just put in a newer graphic card.

Honestly no! I would need to first research the graphic cards, then I would need to log into a computer selling site, and then I would need to take a chance that my research is correct. Order a new card. And then wait until it comes to my house. In that time, I had my old card working, and I didn't need to pay a cent.
 
Only if the mother board supports it.
correct. I tend to think desktop where that is possible. I forget about laptop where it is not. Normally I would say new refurb laptop but prices are skyrocketing on that lately.
 


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