Finally updating my Debian 11 laptop - wish me luck!!

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Afternoon all.
As the title says, after many years, I've finally got around to backing up my data. So today, I'm going to try updating directly from Debian 11 to Debian 13.
Initially, I'm just going to upgrade to the latest security updates for 11, then switch apt to use the Debian 13 repos and update that way. I'll skip 12 altogether.
Hopefully it will work! :oops: Wish me luck!

If the worst comes to the worst and my system gets completely borked, I've got the .iso for the Debian-13.2 net install burnt to a USB thumbdrive.

I'll let you know how I get on! See you on the other side.....
 


Good luck @JasKinasis! You could have just posted this in the Debian sub-forum since it's a Linux topic and not an off-topic discussion since the forum is all about Linux. :)
 
All I can say good luck, hopefully everything goes well. That is a big jump:D
 
Good Luck Jason [I'm lazy and just go for the full upgrade]
 
maybe you should reconsider.

some people are reporting horror stories. trying to go from "bookworm" to "trixie". in particular spirallinux. causes a wait for real iso's to appear based on "trixie".

last year i lifted one of my debian-based things. with cinnamon desktop. from "bookworm" to "trixie". it felt less slick. with permanent too-small mouse cursor in desktop and all programs i ran. despite my setting 32-point size. that was a permanent put-off.

from "bullseye" to "trixie", wow that's tough. sadly the iso's are getting larger with each new release of the operating system. debian, ubuntu, arch whatever.

you have to watch out. depending on the operating system not debian itself. it might require the removal of "gcc" and other development tools. this is just a killer. already felt it trying to go from "trixie" to "forky testing." it was with q4os. now they have a "forky testing" iso. but i don't know if they fixed the stupid dependency problem about "q4os-desktop".
 
Waiting, waiting..... what's the news, Jas ?....all good I hope ??!!
 
Afternoon all.
As the title says, after many years, I've finally got around to backing up my data. So today, I'm going to try updating directly from Debian 11 to Debian 13.
Initially, I'm just going to upgrade to the latest security updates for 11, then switch apt to use the Debian 13 repos and update that way. I'll skip 12 altogether.
Hopefully it will work! :oops: Wish me luck!

If the worst comes to the worst and my system gets completely borked, I've got the .iso for the Debian-13.2 net install burnt to a USB thumbdrive.

I'll let you know how I get on! See you on the other side.....
There's an interesting approach described here using virtualisation: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianUpgrade ?
 
I don't think Jas will need a lot of luck, he is a guru with Debian, in particular Debian Testing.

That bring said, "Luck", Jas, and let us know if you need a pith helmet, a blunderbuss, and a length of rope (Jumanji)

Cheers

Wiz
 
Sorry for the delay, I had an early night last night, because I had to walk to the quacks for an early appointment this morning. And then I walked into town to do some shopping, before going home. I've barely looked at my phone today, let alone my laptop!

I did what I could with it yesterday. But unsurprisingly, I epically borked my entire system!
It all seemed to be going so well at first. Everything was downloading OK. But when apt got to the part where dpkg started trying to install things, that's when the endless error messages about dependency conflicts started. It quickly degenerated into an unfixable mess! Ha ha!

In the end, rather than installing Debian minimal from scratch and re-installing all of my other stuff piecemeal, I just decided to be lazy and install the latest LTS release of Ubuntu Studio, because several of my bands are starting to demo new material, ahead of actual studio time. So all I'm interested in at the moment, is getting my home/mobile studio related bits up and running as quickly as possible, because I have lots of drum parts to record for all of the demos.

I'll come back to Debian once the band stuff has settled down and I have a bit more time to faff.
I'm still using X and KDE on UbuStu, so I'm going to build and install my usual customised dwm, so I can avoid too much heavyweight KDE stuff running on startup.

In hindsight, I think I should have upgraded to 12 and then 13. I've never actually tried skipping a release like that before. But updating from one release to another has always gone smoothly for me. This was the first time I tried upgrading and skipping a release in the middle.

Live and learn, I guess?!

Today, I'm testing all of my recording hardware to make sure it's all working properly with the audio software in UbuStu (Ardour, Hydrogen, pipewire, ALSA, JACK) etc.

Currently scouring my backup drive for a script I wrote to make all of the channels available on one of my Behringer external soundcards. For some reason, out of 8 inputs on it, Linux can only see the first two of them the other 6 are just not there. My other 8 channel Behringer has all 8 available by default (but it's a different module and uses a different driver). What I had to do the first time I had this problem was manually add the other 6 channels to a config file. After working out what changes needed to be made, I wrote a script to make the changes. But I have no idea where I've put it! :confused:

It's fine. I know it's somewhere in my backups!

Before I can record, I also need to build a flight-case, so I can install both soundcards and permanently connect them. That way, I can reduce the set-up/tear-down time a little. It will make the entire recording rig a lot more convenient and portable. But that's a problem for another day!
 
It's fine. I know it's somewhere in my backups!
Live and learn, I guess?!
I've never actually tried skipping a release like that before
I just decided to be lazy
I epically borked my entire system
that's when the endless error messages about dependency conflicts started. It quickly degenerated into an unfixable mess! Ha ha!
Jas, reading your tome above is akin to reading a damn good novel, - It has all the twists and turns of the very best Michael Connelly....and then some.

It is heart warming to see that the best among us can 'epically bork' an install

The whereabouts of your script will pop into your head at the most unexpected moment.
 


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