Solved External USB harddrive that used to be bootdrive in other computer, while mounted, files from drive were open by *firefox* for no apparent reason??

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I have an SSD that another laptop was booting from (before the other hardware in that laptop failed)
and now I'm using it as an external USB drive (with one of those little SATA enclosure shell adapter things).

However, yesterday when I had it mounted,
I noticed my firefox bizarrely lagging and slowing to a crawl...

I only figured out it was because of the harddrive when I went to unmount it,
and found files were still in use on it,
and by firefox for some bizarre reason,
even though I had definitely never opened anything from it in firefox.

So my only guesses are...


There that there might be some sort of... symlink/hardlink confusion?
like, with some files that used to get opened by firefox
back when the external harddrive was the internal boot drive of my other (now dead) computer?

But I really don't know what "hardlinks" even are really,
beyond the fact that they exist...


I think the problem started after I did a bunch of find and grep (well, ag) stuff in the drive?
but I'm not sure...


And it separately occurs to me that maybe it was related to some "helpful" thing my dolphin file browser tried to do when I used its GUI mounting tools?


And the final maybe-relevant thing that occurs to me is:
the drive is encrypted, so maybe it's related to the whole "luks" thing?

But I barely know anything about disk encryption, "luks", or "mapper",
beyond the fact that they exist,
sooo... yeah, I dunno.


Anyway, while it was still running, I found in the output of lsof like:
Code: 
 COMMAND     PID   TID TASKCMD         USER   FD      TYPE             DEVICE  SIZE/OFF       NODE NAME
 firefox   28238  5369 IndexedDB       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238  5381 StreamT~n       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238  5382 IndexedDB       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238  5391 WRScene~l       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238  5392 WRScene~e       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238  5393 WRRende~k       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238  5394 WRScene~l       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238  5395 WRScene~e       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238  5396 WRRende~k       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238  5399 IndexedDB       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238  5575 IndexedDB       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238  5708 IndexedDB       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238  5715 IndexedDB       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 28244 pool-spaw       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 28245 gmain           user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 28246 gdbus           user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 28247 glean.dis       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 28249 IPC\x20I/       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 28250 Timer           user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 28251 Netlink         user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 28252 Socket          user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 28253 IPDL\x20B       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 28255 HTML5\x20       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 28258 JS\x20Wat       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 28267 Cache2          user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 28268 Cookie          user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 28278 TaskCon~l       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 28279 TaskCon~l       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 28283 Worker          user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 28292 firefox:r       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 28293 firefox:d       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 28294 GLXVsyncT       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 28295 CanvasRen       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 28296 Renderer        user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 28297 WRWorker#       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 28298 WRWorker#       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 28299 WRWorkerL       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 28300 WRWorkerL       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 28301 Composito       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 28302 ImageIO         user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 28305 Permissio       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 28306 Breakpad        user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 28307 SandboxRe       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 28308 IPC\x20La       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 28335 QuotaMana       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 28338 FSBroker2       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 28362 TRR\x20Ba       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 28399 GMPThread       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 28400 ImageBrid       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 28401 FSBroker2       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 28402 ProcessHa       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 28403 WRScene~i       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 28404 WRScene~d       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 28405 WRRende~c       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 28422 AudioIP~v       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 28423 AudioIP~a       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 28424 AudioIP~i       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 28435 threaded-       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 28437 Backgro~P       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 28438 ProxyReso       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 28444 FSBroker2       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 28446 WRScene~i       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 28447 WRScene~d       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 28448 WRRende~c       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 28459 WRScene~i       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 28460 WRScene~d       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 28461 WRRende~c       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 28467 WRScene~i       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 28468 WRScene~d       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 28469 WRRende~c       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 28470 WRScene~i       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 28471 WRScene~d       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 28472 WRRende~c       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 28473 WRScene~i       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 28474 WRScene~d       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 28475 WRRende~c       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 28476 WRScene~i       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 28477 WRScene~d       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 28478 WRRende~c       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 28481 FSBroker2       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 28484 FSBroker2       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 28530 URL\x20Cl       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 28548 mozStorag       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 28551 FSBroker2       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 28559 LS\x20Thr       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 28560 mozStorag       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 28562 mozStorag       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 28649 mozStorag       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 28678 DOM\x20Wo       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 28703 MemoryPol       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 28706 glean.mps       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 28834 RemoteLzy       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 28838 DOM\x20Wo       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 29093 mozStorag       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 29113 mozStorag       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 29178 FSBroker2       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 29276 FSBroker2       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 29278 FSBroker2       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 29422 DOMCacheT       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 29595 SwComposi       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 29596 WRScene~i       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 29597 WRScene~d       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 29598 WRRende~c       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 29599 mozStorag       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 29600 mozStorag       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 29641 threaded-       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 29642 SwComposi       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 29643 WRScene~i       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 29644 WRScene~d       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 29645 WRRende~c       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 29688 SwComposi       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 29689 WRScene~l       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 29690 WRScene~e       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 29691 WRRende~k       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 29747 FSBroker2       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 29748 FSBroker2       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 29986 FSBroker2       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 30067 FSBroker3       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 30230 WRScene~l       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 30231 WRScene~e       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 30232 WRRende~k       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 30373 FSBroker3       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 31425 FSBroker3       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 31930 FSBroker3       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 32387 FSBroker3       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 32436 FSBroker3       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 firefox   28238 32457 BgIOThr~o       user  cwd       DIR              254,0      4096          2 /run/media/user/1c5afe56-1888-48dd-aae4-3cafce30b9cc
 


Check mime types, media files, including pictures, may be 'linked' to firefox.

Often, if you right click on a file in your file manager, you will be offered alternative programs to use to open them.

(Sorry, but I know nothing about working with luks.)
 
Hmmm, yeah that doesn't feel like it's on the right track...

I didn't click on anything in dolphin,
and I would've noticed if I accidentally clicked some html file and it opened up in firefox,
and I made sure every firefox window was on a new tab and suspended everything else
(https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/fi...um=firefox-browser&utm_source=firefox-browser)

And like, I'm no expert, but that giant wall of mystifying entries from lsof sure doesn't look like what you'd get from just opening a few actual html files or whatever, eh?
 
I notice that it is the same file, multiple times - maybe check for a root kit(?).

(Or delete that particular file/directory & see what happens?)
 
@z7vl7abxc I figured it out!

I asked on stackexchange,
and I didn't get an answer,
but I got one key comment that let me figure out the rest for myself,
so I answered my own question there,
as completely as I was able to right now (given that I'm just learning this all myself).

(
So like, basically I wrote the little tutorial I wish someone had been able to give to me,
although I don't know if it'll ever actually end up being found by anyone else who needs it...
)

It was nothing actually to do with firefox (that's just what alerted me to the problem),
and everything to do with luks and /dev/mapper and I had to learn about cryptsetup,
[hm, I should update the tags on this post to include that]
(
and dolphin has stupid automatic behaviors and tries to "helpfully" do what it guesses you want,
which is actually so unhelpful that,
if it can't be fixed to actually do it truly correctly,
it would be better if it could just be changed to just go "sorry, I can't do that" instead...
)
 
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