Ok Mr. Wizard. I am trying to follow directions, assuming that when I'm instructed to read tutorials, I am expected to work my issue myself and follow the directions. Again I am waiting for instructions. I didn't set up that partition like that, the Mint installer did. It also selected the area at the bottom [I think it referenced the whole disk], after that failed I tried again selecting sda3 which also failed] Boot repair puts the boot flag on the windows partition when Mint crashes due to grub failure. I do appreciate your assistance...especially in your wounded condition. I hope it heals gently and perfectly. I'm off to try to get the dialer working. Yes I understand now that those tar files are beyond me. Thanks for the info.