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US 'conscious consumers' love Aussie goat meat but there's a problem

Producers will have to balance consistent supply with the ethical expectations of America's "conscious consumers" as international demand for wild-caught rangeland goat meat surges.
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That's a bit interesting.

Why? Well, goat isn't common here in the US. I looked, but statistics were hard to come by.

I don't know how many USians eat goat on a regular basis. However, I did find one reputable source that says only 23% of us Americans have even tried goat.

I never ate goat meat until I left the country. It took me a bit to get used to the taste. My parents had a couple of goats when I was a kid, but they were pets. We didn't even milk them.

Coincidentally, and perhaps fortuitous timing, there's some talk of adding goats to the farm. It could be that goat meat (and milk) are going to become popular. Being in front of that would be a good idea. I'm just not sure that we have the demand here.
 
I like Goat in some curries Tagine's and Greek dishes, it reminds me of Hogget [which we can't get these days], for those not familiar with the term a lamb is up to a year old, a hogget is 1-2 years old and has a stronger flavour, and over 2 years they are mutton
 
I like Goat in some curries Tagine's and Greek dishes,

My first exposure was, I think, when I went to Ethiopia. I think that's when I first tried goat, but there's some chance that I'd already eaten it elsewhere without actually knowing that I was eating goat.

Quite often, I don't ask too many questions when eating abroad. It's okay. I don't have any known food allergies. I often don't ask how the food is made, or anything like that. It's best to not know and enjoy it than to know and not enjoy it.
 
I don't ask too many questions when eating abroad. It's okay.
The boss is a picky eater, if she hasn't tried it before then she will be adamant she doesn't like it,
Little story
I used to book our own holidays [not pre-packed] one year we went to a little fishing village on Crete, we were the only Brits, so were asked to host the Greek gala evening, now this hotel was full of Germans who avoided us and never spoke to us, when it came to the meal the boss and I led off, so as she is fussy i was describing each dish to her with the main ingredients, and all the Germans who did not speak English were craning their necks to hear what I was saying, strange that!!
 
Now...we have 'drop crocs'

Fortunately, it looks like they were dead and gone before we humans existed.

It's an absurd way to die. You're out there, stomping through the forest. When, bam! You're leisurely walk is interrupted by taking a five-meter crocodile to the head. Death would be better because nobody is going to believe you when you tell them the story.

Imagine if some of them still existed in the most desolate areas. You can't go down to the pub and tell them about the drop croc. They're not going to believe anything that absurd.
 
huh. only time I've ever had goat was at ethnic restaurants - a turkish place (a stew) and a traditional mexican place (forget what they called it but it looked like a taco). it's not horrible but I wouldnt want to eat goat every day
 


As of the early 2020s, Australia was responsible for only 0.4% of worldwide goat meat production, and its domestic market was small; only 9% of locally produced goat meat was consumed there. However, the country was also the world's largest exporter of the product, with 35% of all goat meat exports, accounting for 44% of the global export value of the product. Most of Australia's goat meat exports were in the form of frozen whole carcasses.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goat_meat#cite_note-tg_2024-07-17-23"><span>[</span>22<span>]</span></a>

The country's biggest market for the product was the United States, with an average 60% volume share in the first half of the decade.[22] The next largest markets were South Korea, China and the Caribbean.[16]


According to Meat & Livestock Australia (MLA), 2,364,307 goats were slaughtered in Australia in 2023.[22] The figure for slaughtered goats published by the Australian Bureau of Statistics for the following year, 2024, was 3.5 million.[19] MLA recorded that year's goat meat production in Australia as being 54,017 tonnes (53,164 long tons; 59,544 short tons), the highest tonnage ever.[16]


The bulk of Australia's goat meat is produced from feral rangeland goats, captured and gathered through goat depots, and then sent to an abattoir.[22][16] However, some producers have adopted managed programs capable of breeding meatier animals more consistent in size and quality.[16] Feral goats range all over Australia, but are most prevalent in western New South Wales, where the population was estimated in 2020 at 4.9 million


Nutrition and health effects

Goat is a form of red meat. Red meat is a good source of protein, iron, zinc, and vitamins B1, B2, B6, and B12.[23] According to the International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC), unprocessed red meat probably causes cancer, particularly colorectal cancer.[24] Studies have also linked red meat with higher risks of cardiovascular disease[25] and type 2 diabetes.[26] If meat is processed, such as by salting, curing, or smoking, health risks further increase.[24] The World Cancer Research Fund recommends limiting red meat to no more than three servings per week.[27]
Amount Per 100 grams[28]
Energy : 600 kJ (143 kcal)
% Daily Value
Protein 27.1 g 54%
Total Fat 3.03 g 4%
Saturated fat 0.9 g 4%
Cholesterol 75 mg 25%
Carbohydrate 0 g 0%
Iron 3.73 mg 20%
Phosphorus 201 mg 28%
Potassium 405 mg 11%
Sodium 86 mg 3%
Zinc 5.27 mg 55%
Selenium 11.8 μg 21%
Niacin–Vitamin B3 3.95 mg 24%
Choline 106 mg 21%
Vitamin B12 1.19 μg 20%
 
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There's a hefty amount of politics that could be involved in discussing this. So, let's just say that it's for educational/entertaining.

 
I don't know if it's genuine, but I like it


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There's a hefty amount of politics that could be involved in discussing this. So, let's just say that it's for educational/entertaining
I will say the behaviour is atypical, The locals thrive on the attention it brings. The more the press pay attention, the more that type of behaviour will escalate. Coverage by the press & co legitimises the ongoing actions.

The above comments are made as a result of first hand experience.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wadeye

Wadeye is also known as Port Keats.

Of note is the date the video was released. 2013. The newspaper held up by the film crew is dated May 23, 2006

Young people will always seek attention. In that community, striking out as a violent gang gets that attention in spades. Media laps it up. It sells news sheets, whether it be digital or otherwise.

In 2021 wadeye had a population of 1,924 people. Touted as being one of the biggest communities of its type in the Northern Territory.

Wadeye occupies approx 6000 hectares. Its facilities are shown as "Wadeye has several organizations that provide services to the community. These include government and non-government groups' ,....and it has a wimming pool.

people from overseas reading about wadeye, get a incorrect idea of Australia. They wrongly assume the display put on by that town is typical of areas here.
That could not be further from the truth.

Wadeye's 6000 hectares pales in comparison to Australia overall size.

Australia occupies, 768 685 000 hectares Australia's area is 7,686,850 sq km (2,967,909 sq mi)

(seven hundred and sixty eight million hectares....or seven million square kilometres....or 3 million square miles)

The above facts will provide some perspective.
 
I don't know if it's genuine, but I like it

Uff... That could be read as exclusionary. Some of those things that are part of their culture would exclude others with, shall we say, a very different belief system.

I'll let it stand, but it's close. There's a subset of people who look for reasons to be offended (across all the various segments of society). I'll just assume that it's humor and move on. If we get complaints, we may have to remove that.
 

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November 18, 2025







MELBOURNE, Australia (AP) — A prisoner is challenging an Australian state’s ban on inmates eating Vegemite, claiming in a court suit that withholding the polarizing yeast-based spread that most of the nation reveres as an unfairly maligned culinary icon breaches his human right to “enjoy his culture as an Australian.”

Andre McKechnie, 54, serving a life sentence for murder, took his battle for the salty, sticky, brown byproduct of brewing beer to the Supreme Court of Victoria, according to documents released to The Associated Press on Tuesday.

While more than 80% of Australian households are estimated to have a jar of Vegemite in their pantries, inmates in all 12 prisons in Victoria are going without.

More...
 
I am not familiar with the Australian legal system, and I don't want to dive into the politics, but I'm pretty sure that Vegemite access is not, in fact, a human right. In fact, other than belief-system considerations (which we shan't dwell upon), I'm not sure that any specific food is a human right.

An adequate amount of safe calories and enough potable liquid to provide healthy hydration are human rights (as far as detainees are concerned). When you're incarcerated, you lose certain rights. One of those rights is to decide what food is provided to you. In some cases, you may have the opportunity to buy some food, but that's a privilege and not a right.

The above is true in many jurisdictions.

There are some prisons where they don't even feed the inmates. You rely on food from your loved ones, be it delivered to the prison or via money sent to support you. Those are not nice prisons. Well, at least as prisons go...

There are some 'nice' prisons. Norway has some 'nice' prisons. I think I'd rather be incarcerated in a 'nice' prison over being a homeless person. Well, maybe... I think I'd rather not be in either of those situations. Fortunately, I'll never be in any of those situations.

Anyhow, in the US, this would be settled by the courts. The courts would almost certainly dismiss the case immediately as being frivolous. We have a lot of inmates in the US. Some of them are bored. They'll file a whole host of legal cases for their own entertainment or out of their own delusions.
 
a similar case in read about in the UK last year, an illegal immigrant who had served a term, was due for deportation, claimed he and his family could not be deported because of the human rights of his son, who would only eat British chicken nuggets, and apparently won
 
a similar case in read about in the UK last year, an illegal immigrant who had served a term, was due for deportation, claimed he and his family could not be deported because of the human rights of his son, who would only eat British chicken nuggets, and apparently won

I really wanted to hope that that's something spread from the Daily Mail and not actually true. But I recall the story, and it is true. They delayed the deportation because it would be 'unduly harsh' for the child. They didn't grant citizenship or anything like that. They just delayed the deportation. (At least that's what I recall.) They're still getting deported at some point, but they're allowed to remain in England for some amount of time. (I forget how much time, but I believe they'll be revisiting this case periodically.)

Frankly, that's absurd, but it appears to be a valid legal argument in that jurisdiction. LOL That's never going to happen (in my lifetime) in my country. I'd discuss that, but man, that'd violate so many forum rules.

I am now curious as to how this ends up being decided. My assumption is that it'll first go to some sort of panel of prison overseers, or some group within the facility itself, and then be escalated. Then, it seems likely that it'll end up in front of some sort of judge/magistrate. Perhaps an Aussie can step in and let us know what's going to happen next.

If the dude ends up getting his Vegemite, I'm not sure if I'll be disappointed or if I'll chuckle. It might be a combination of both.

Google tells me that 77% of Australians report drinking alcohol within the past 12 months. Maybe they should be asking for alcohol instead of Vegemite? It's only 3% more than people who have Vegemite in their pantry. According to this site, some 30% of Australians don't eat Vegemite at all.

So, the numbers are fairly similar. Instead of asking for Vegemite, the dude should be asking for a six-pack of Carlton Dry.
 


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