It starts - I just inherited a Windows 10 box

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It's tempting to say that it's because of the looming demise of Win10 but the previous owner of this PC stopped using it a couple of years ago.

My nephew-in-law is a bit of a gamer and he gave me his old tower that he's not using any more.

It's a screamer, I guess: a 2012 vintage Asus mobo with 6-core AMD CPU, 12 GB RAM and -two- Nvidia cards.

I'm not a gamer but it seems like there's much that could be done with this machine - although it's pulling almost a hundred watts at idle.

It's performance under MS Windows doesn't seem particularly spectacular to me, although that might just be my bias against Windows tainting my perception. Of course, the Nvidia cards are old enough that I'm going to have to scrounge around building drivers for them for linux - and I've never had that actually work in the past.

Fun and games ahead!
 


I just inherited an Acer Aspire 5750 laptop from my brother-in-law, bios date 2011. 4gb ram, 500gb spinning disk, Win7 Home Edition. When I first booted it the drive was 95% full and it took 30 minutes to boot. Three USB 2.0 ports and SVGA port.

Not real sure what this one might be good for even if I max it out. It can only take 2x4gb ddr and the video and wifi is basic. The good news is it has a 100gb ethernet port, so it could be useful as a pi-hole or zenmap drone in a wiring closet.

Sadly, my first castoff from the Great Win10 Exodus isn't much of an entry, your haul is much better so far.
 
It's a screamer, I guess: a 2012 vintage Asus mobo with 6-core AMD CPU, 12 GB RAM and -two- Nvidia cards.
If the AMD processor is an APU you can junk the Nvidia graphics cards.
 
Put LMDE 7 on it ?
 
@MikeRocor & @Smilax
if your desktops have a spare PCIe 3-16 slot, you should be able to convert to a M2 NVME class 3 drive to speed them up, but check out MB support first
 
If the AMD processor is an APU you can junk the Nvidia graphics cards.
No, the CPU is 6 core FX 6100. But, depending on how the driver quest goes, I might end up junking those cards anyway - I haven't made any progress on that front today, but that's mainly because I'm working on a giant pot of chili instead of "working on the important stuff". ;)
 
Put LMDE 7 on it ?
Maybe. My typical M.O. is to put Tiny Core on everything, but maybe this will be the box I use to start seriously distro hopping.
 
I just inherited an Acer Aspire 5750 laptop from my brother-in-law, bios date 2011. 4gb ram, 500gb spinning disk, Win7 Home Edition. When I first booted it the drive was 95% full and it took 30 minutes to boot. Three USB 2.0 ports and SVGA port.

Not real sure what this one might be good for even if I max it out. It can only take 2x4gb ddr and the video and wifi is basic. The good news is it has a 100gb ethernet port, so it could be useful as a pi-hole or zenmap drone in a wiring closet.

Sadly, my first castoff from the Great Win10 Exodus isn't much of an entry, your haul is much better so far.
That's not a terrible sounding machine. The main issue with hand-me-down laptops is that the battery is usually weak, if not completely shot.

I'd probably boot Linux from a USB stick to see how it runs before doing anything irreversible to the hard drive. I've been told one should always check for BIOS updates before nuking Windows because sometimes a BIOS updater is only available as a Windows program.
 
@MikeRocor & @Smilax
if your desktops have a spare PCIe 3-16 slot, you should be able to convert to a M2 NVME class 3 drive to speed them up, but check out MB support first
Sadly, my budget is such that I can't really spend any money on these sorts of things.

The one machine I have that has an SSD in it (a 2015-ish vintage mid-range gaming laptop) doesn't gain enough performance to make much difference to me. I put Tiny Core on it (of course) and so much of what goes on with the OS happens entirely in RAM that the "disk" device is almost irrelevant except at boot time - and I don't reboot all that often.

On the other hand, if I do decide to use this machine as a distro hopping platform, I might have to save up my pennies and get some sort of an SSD. TBH, though, I've never been much of a distro hopper.
 
LMDE 7 ......recently released

lmde-7-cinnamon-64bit.iso

A single click on the link above will prompt you to save the .iso
 
LMDE 7 ......recently released

lmde-7-cinnamon-64bit.iso

A single click on the link above will prompt you to save the .iso
Ding de-dang, that's a huge file! :eek: Do you know how many floppies that's gonna take?

jk. I've got the iso now but it will be a while before I'm ready to try it out.

I don't suppose there's a Devuan based LMDE? The whole idea of systemd still gives me the willies.
 
That's not a terrible sounding machine. The main issue with hand-me-down laptops is that the battery is usually weak, if not completely shot.

I'd probably boot Linux from a USB stick to see how it runs before doing anything irreversible to the hard drive. I've been told one should always check for BIOS updates before nuking Windows because sometimes a BIOS updater is only available as a Windows program.
I did, I had to to see why the drive was full because it was too painful to try to do anything with as it was. Ventoy & Mint 22.2 revealed a Norton Backup folder with seven backups in it just shy of 400gb. The newest backup set was three years old, so took a chance and deleted the folder. That "solved" the boot slowness, now it just takes the expected five minutes. Norton had been removed at some point but I guess he didn't know about the archive folder.

Great advice on the BIOS update, I'll check that next, thanks.
 

I've mentioned this before and it changed my thoughts on the reasons behind why MSFT may be doing the things it is doing.

There's something called SaaS. That's 'Software as a Service', and you're already familiar with it. It's software that you keep paying for. It's a periodic payment process that provides you with a piece of software. While we may eschew such in the Linux world, or at least many of us do, we can all state that we understand the concept.

It has been rumored (for many years) that MSFT would like to do SaaS with their operating systems. This is a move toward that end, and a forceful move towards that end.

Specifically:


During a previous thread, I decided to do some digging. That link just happened to appear the day that I did that searching. The thread's subject was about how folks thought we'd get a massive wave of new users due to Win10 expiring. It was then, and is now, not something I expect to happen. However, I've since changed my reasons as to why that won't happen.

If one digs deeper, you'll eventually find the follwing page:


It was not directly linked, which might be relevant.

So, for $30 USD you can extend support. You can also use the MSFT points. (You can get plenty of MSFT points by using their search engine while logged into your registered account.)

This is still SaaS, it's just not continued periodic payments. The people opting to do so will be paying for continued support. For all we know, they may decided to extend the program if you pay more money.

In the world of arithmetic, we use the concept of 'lowest common denominator'. I suppose that, in electronic engineering, we use the concept of 'the path of least resistance'.

Which is why I propose to you a thought exercise... If you were a Windows user who didn't have a computer that met the minimal standards for WIn11, would you rather pay $30 and keep the same thing you're used to, or would you rather switch to an entirely foreign operating system that has a reputation of being difficult to use?

I strongly suspect that MSFT was very precise with this decision. You can spend a mere $30 for this. You can even show your loyalty to the brand by spending 1,000 points on this. For a large portion of people, $30 is 'not too much money'. It's even less costly (to them) than it would be to spend the time learning another operating system.

This is a bit of a novella, but I've chosen my words with care.

After MSFT announced this ESU program, I spent time thinking about the potential benefits and consequences. Frankly, it didn't change my end thoughts. I still do not expect a massive influx of new Linux users. It could happen but MSFT has been more strict with its users in the past. This time, they're even offering them a way to extend their familiarity and effects. Notably, this is also something entire companies can opt into.
 
Which is why I propose to you a thought exercise... If you were a Windows user who didn't have a computer that met the minimal standards for WIn11, would you rather pay $30 and keep the same thing you're used to, or would you rather switch to an entirely foreign operating system that has a reputation of being difficult to use?
Amen.
 
2 things I take note of

The esu's only extend to 2026
if you already sync your backups to their cloud, you can enrol in esu at no additional cost

So, there is obviously a monetary gain for msoft when they 'store' your backups. ....and presumably suck whatever data is of interest to them at the same time. This not to be construed as msft bashing....more like fact.
 


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