Mini-review of Endless-OS

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This was suggested for me to review by another user here, as it was somewhat similar to the SoaS (Sugar) OS.

It was difficult to review this, not because of any problems with the distro, everything worked fine. But rather because it seemed like just
another Gnome based desktop than anything else. The other problem was that the latest update of Chromium seems to have broken the ability to upload pictures here.
But of course that has nothing to do with Endless-OS.

I was somewhat surprised by the size of the iso file. A whopping 24.8GB. This largest iso I think I have ever downloaded.
But this can be good, because it installs everything you will ever need, no internet required.

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I am greeted by the standard Ubuntu/Mint/Debian initialization page. I select English.

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For the purpose of this review, I am simply chooing the "Try It" without installing it to a VM.

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I am still somewhat surprised that some Debian based distro's don't auto-gelocation to determine what language and keyboard you want to use. Not a big deal. Obviously you
might not always want the default language for your location, you should have a way to choose, it just strikes me odd that the locale isn't automated.

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Another surprised is that I had to sign a license agreement. Not a big deal. It mostly says I can't reverse engineer this distro and charge for it. I have seen Eula's before but usually not
for a desktop distro, more for commercial server distro's.

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I then get the standard.. "do you want to share your info with the world" dialog. Since it's only a temporary VM, I decided to live wild and free.

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Once I answer all these things, now I can start using the OS.

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For this most part, this just looks like another standard Gnome desktop. I will say that it comes with many applications already pre-installed. I suppose that justifies the 24GB download.

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This is just a personal preference, not a problem with the distro. But I'm not a fan of the Gnome "icon folders". You click on the older and and it shows you another list of applications inside the folder. I guess this is Gnome's way of organizing applications, but it seems like the whole purpose of Gnome is to have an "un-organized" flat icon desktop. I don't like that I have scroll through multiple screens to get to the application I'm looking for, and now I have to click yet once more to get the application I'm looking for. Sometimes Gnome isn't the easiest desktop to use.

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Clicking on one of the "group" icons brings up yet another screen that I have to scroll across to get to the application I'm looking for. I hate to beat a dead horse, but it seems rather un-intuitive.
But all in all this is just Gnome. It's not a Endless-OS problem, it's the same for every distro.

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I did notice that endless uses an older 6.5.0 kernel, and some of the applications are somewhat dated. Some of them were able to update automatically, bit others were not.

Allin all I like the distro, I would say the target audience is a one-computer family. It does have young child based applications for pre-school aged children. I tend a big advantge to having these applications pre-installed that you can see them, and you are aware they exist. Sometimes when using Disovery software manager or even apt, you don't know what to search for because you don't know such an application exists. I felt like the pre-install choices to to favor younger children. Having said that, it did also come with more "grown-up" applications such as Libre-office.

It also comes with applications such as VLC, Audacity, and Gimp pre-installed. Obviously these would be geared for a more mature audience, not toddlers so much. That is what I meant by a single computer distro. I think it tries to be everything to everyone. I didn't see anything in this distro that couldn't be done in a more traditional Debian/Mint install. (I don't include Ubuntu here because
I notice it still prefers .deb packages over snaps). But it is nice that it has a lot of applications pre-installed. Everything worked, I didn't really have any problems at all with anything.

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My personal opinion is, if I was already running Mint or Debian, I don't see a reason to switch to this OS.
 


I don't see a reason to switch to this OS.

I can see it as being useful for that family that lives in the sticks (and maybe a family with a strict moral code) and has poor/no internet access. I seem to recall that it had a chunk of Wikipedia that it installed and stuff like that. It's the family that has one old computer that sits in the living room and that's all they've got.

It's a fairly unique distro. It too hides things away and is meant to be used as it was shipped. It is also the largest distro that I know of. It's huge. It'd take me a day to download that.

But, no... No, there's no reason to switch to it - unless you're in those exact categories. I've played with an older version and was amused. Thanks for the review!
 
Ray, just a heads up for the audience, if they want to try Endless, they can get a reasonably sized iso download from the site.

4.02 GB - basic

...and then add what they want/need from the App Centre.

https://www.endlessos.org/os-direct-download

Differences between Full and Basic?

Endless OS Editions​


We produce two editions of Endless OS for different use cases:


  • Full: the whole OS and tons of apps/content
  • Basic: the base OS with few apps for Internet-connected installations

Endless OS Full​


The Full edition of Endless OS includes over one hundred apps already installed on the OS. This includes games, productivity software, reference materials like Cooking, Farming, Health, and Travel, and educational materials like a robust Encyclopedia. This is the edition of Endless OS used for most partner deployments around the world.


Because this edition is packed full of content from the start, it’s a much larger download at over 16 GB, and 64 GB of disk space or more may be required for installation.


If you are installing Endless OS on a computer that has limited or no Internet connection or will be installing Endless OS on other people’s computers, this is the best version to download to get the complete Endless OS experience.


Note: The English, Spanish, and Brazilian Portuguese language versions of Endless OS currently offer the most robust experience. Endless OS supports many other languages with at least partial translations for the desktop, web browser, and some third-party apps.


Endless OS Basic​


The Basic edition of Endless OS is around 3 GB to download, and you can fit it onto a USB stick as small as 8 GB. This edition comes with only a few apps preloaded and is recommended for computers that will have access to the Internet.


Once you have installed Endless OS, you can open the App Center where you can browse, download, and install hundreds of free apps via the Internet.


The basic edition is a great option if you haven’t tried Endless OS before and are interested in a quick preview of how it looks and feels. You can also create an Endless OS USB stick with the Basic version to make sure that Endless OS will work on your computer before downloading and installing the Full edition.


If you install the Basic version of Endless OS, all of the apps in the Full version—and more!—can be installed from App Center.

Wiz
 
But I'm not a fan of the Gnome "icon folders". You click on the older and and it shows you another list of applications inside the folder. I guess this is Gnome's way of organizing applications, but it seems like the whole purpose of Gnome is to have an "un-organized" flat icon desktop. I don't like that I have scroll through multiple screens to get to the application I'm looking for, and now I have to click yet once more to get the application I'm looking for. Sometimes Gnome isn't the easiest desktop to use.
@dos2unix :-

Heh.

Many of you will have seen the recent video I posted demonstrating some of the 'mechanics' behind my Puppy desktops. Most of my desktop icons ARE the expected single 'launchers', i.e., you click the icon, and the application starts.

In some places, clicking on the desktop icon will bring up a small, multi-choice launcher. I do this for my own benefit, usually to enable grouping of similar applications. It saves me from having to dig through 'nested' multi-level menus, which is one of my few pet hates. I prefer launching direct from the desktop under ideal conditions.

I also have a bunch of 'commonly-used' launch icons in the Puppy 'quick-launch' area to the immediate right of the main 'Menu' button, bottom-left corner. These let me launch stuff without needing to be on the desktop itself...

I tried Gnome a couple of times, years ago during my distro-hopping phase. I didn't like it very much then. It doesn't seem as though it's improved any over the intervening years, but this is one reason why there's so many different ways of organizing your desktop.....from full-fat DEs right down to minimalist tiling window managers, etc. It really would be quite surprising if most people couldn't find something to suit them..! :P

Thanks for the review.


Mike. ;)
 
I tried Gnome a couple of times, years ago during my distro-hopping phase. I didn't like it very much then. It doesn't seem as though it's improved any over the intervening years,

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I use KDE, but my wife prefers Cinnamon. It's a little nostalgic, it reminds me of MacOS in the late 90's and WindowsME.
But it's simple, uncluttered, well organized, easy to use, and almost everything is one click away. I have the freedom of multiple floating windows I can resize if I want to. The only downside is it still runs on old X11/Xorg.

But it's easy to see the attraction of distro's like Mint. In my opinion, mostly because it has a easy to use desktop.
I think almost all of the Cinnamon development these days is done by the Mint team.
 


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