Am I in the right place?

[Chrisgayle]

You are unlikely to find pay to use apps in distribution repositories, as then are not either GNU or FOSS [this dosn't apply to some specialist distros that include service support contracts]

Thanks sir,
I am not only says about sale and buying apps like windows do.
I say if there is a place where creator put there hard work pakages and user like me get that from there, isn't it better that market it little bit visible.
It's like repository or the people who control the repositories says to creator "you you make a an awesome software give us but we didn't tell anyone that we have this software"
And the repositories says to user like me "oh you want do to this task there is a pakage which can do that for you but we didn't tell you about that, you just live in a delusion that there is no pakage for your work"
What kind of hidden black market is this.

 

[Brickwizard]

To find which repositories you are using [in Mint] click on the update manager icon, then select edit, then software sources and enter [you may need to put in your password
your Apt packages will come from Ubuntu/Debian and your mint packages will come from http://packages.linuxmint.com/list-src.php?release=ulyana

 

[Chrisgayle]

Ok when I search official ubuntu repository this site came up https://snapcraft.io/store
So if I install for example (sudo apt gnome-system-monitor) is my machine download it from here or somewhere else, of somewhere else then form where.

 

[Brickwizard]

I say if there is a place where creator put there hard work pakages and user like me get that from there,

Linux's contributors normally agree to the terms of the GNU licence, so it doesn't matter if you write a new script or change an existing one, the rout to making it available is usually similar, you submit the script to the development team , and they will check it then put it out to their testing team, and only when it found to be bug free it may make it into the next software update.

I search official ubuntu repository

Some bedtime reading...

Repositories/Ubuntu - Community Help Wiki

 

[Sherri is a Cat]

Over time you'll notice that some people are unfriendly towards linux newbies.

I recently dove into Linux headfirst. I've only run into one person that was rude. That person was relatively new to this forum, but apparently not to Linux. I bit my tongue and moved on. In cases like this and to prevent some personal resentments, I have to assume it's nothing personal and they're just in a bad mood.

The biggest difference I've noticed between this forum and Windows forums is that the people here are so friendly. They don't seem to take life too damn seriously and are more than happy to help.

I've never felt very welcome at any Windows forum. They always seemed to assume I have an empty head. I've been tweaking PC software, repairing software issues, fixing hardware, upgrading hardware and software for a long time. I built my last computer. You'd think that would have come through in the way I talked about things, but I guess it didn't. Sometimes I may not have used the correct term for something. You'd think they would give me a break on that one. Despite all my efforts I was still blown off.

The last time I was at a Windows forum I was having some trouble figuring out exactly where to plug in the power switch I was replacing. The replacement plug looked different. I posted pictures of my MOBO, the model number circled in red. A pic of the new plug, the old plug and the place it was plugged in, the specs to my MOBO and a link to the manual for my MOBO. I gave them everything I could think of to make it as easy as possible to help me using words that hopefully would indicate I have some amount of intelligence, knowledge and that I'd tried to figure this out before asking for help.

The very first reply I got was the very same link I gave them to my MOBO's manual. Thank was it. I got some answers that I know weren't correct and some erroneous assumptions before someone finally looked at the info I posted and gave me the simple answer I needed. I was lucky to get an answer that time. I usually end up finding my answer on my own.

The only thing I could say about being in the right place is that I was advised to go to the distribution specif forums. But again, no one seems to hold it against me if I post in the wrong place. They just move it and tell me why in a very friendly way.

 

[Sherri is a Cat]

Welcome to the Forum.

It takes time to learn because Linux isn't windoze it's so much better as you will see...enjoy.

From my experience, Linux is definitely not Windows, and thank God for that!! It takes a little time to find things I'm looking for because things are set up and organized differently. Commands are different. I think that's where I have the most to learn, at least that's what I think right now. I thought it would be a lot of work to switch to a totally new OS. So far it hasn't been. I was intimidated more than I was afraid..

 

[Chrisgayle]

Some bedtime reading...

Repositories/Ubuntu - Community Help Wiki

Ok I read it I didn't say I completely understand every think but trust me I understand almost all the topic it says.
After reading I am little bit angry (to the high authorities who control this system) maybe because I come from another world (windows), but there is lot of think I want to say, if you agree then I want to debate about this system, please don't think that I disrespect to this community. But lot of think I didn't understand why the whole Linux community accepting it.
The Linux security, privacy, freedom all going to fade slowly to me, when I see this repository system it's looks same to me some people in high authorities control everything, they decide what is right and what is wrong, same like corporate giant like Microsoft. But everyone accept it.

 

[CaffeineAddict]

From my experience, Linux is definitely not Windows, and thank God for that!!

I've spent almost 2 days learning and troubleshooting to figure out how to set up a custom bridge network to connect to virtual machine.
But it's such a great experience, I've mastered the ip command which is the most important networking command, and also I've mastered how switches and bridges work at the fundamental level, on top of that I've also wrote nftables firewall scripts to make sure networking not only works but is also secure.

2 days of headache! but worth it, I like linux 100% I would never learn this low level stuff in windows.

 

[Chrisgayle]

After read the repository document I check my system, I see a link but thats a download like only, so I see that people/creator give there pakages to the ubuntu authorities they check and put that pakage in there server, doest show what they did to that package how it shows to others nothing. like they says we know better that you to the creator.
As per user like me I didn't see the there store didn't check any detail, just download it (please note that there is no way to knew what pakages is exist in there server). Like they say to me just believe us we know this is best software for you.
Isn't it same like the corporate giant like Microsoft or Google, we know they didn't care about privacy, data security.
Same goes to Linux authorities. who give me guarantee that ubuntu doesn't do the same what Google or Microsoft did, kept monitoring me kept my data.
What's the difference between Linux authorities and Google, apple giants then

 

[Sherri is a Cat]

After reading I am little bit angry (to the high authorities who control this system) maybe because I come from another world (windows),....
The Linux security, privacy, freedom all going to fade slowly to me, when I see this repository system it's looks same to me some people in high authorities control everything, they decide what is right and what is wrong, same like corporate giant like Microsoft. But everyone accept it.

See my comments in #46 I feel exactly the same way!

 

[CaffeineAddict]

After read the repository document I check my system, I see a link but thats a download like only, so I see that people/creator give there pakages to the ubuntu authorities they check and put that pakage in there server, doest show what they did to that package how it shows to others nothing. like they says we know better that you to the creator.
As per user like me I didn't see the there store didn't check any detail, just download it (please note that there is no way to knew what pakages is exist in there server). Like they say to me just believe us we know this is best software for you.
Isn't it same like the corporate giant like Microsoft or Google, we know they didn't care about privacy, data security.
Same goes to Linux authorities. who give me guarantee that ubuntu doesn't do the same what Google or Microsoft did, kept monitoring me kept my data.
What's the difference between Linux authorities and Google, apple giants then

Regarding privacy I suggest you to read about linux distros at FSF link here:

Explaining Why We Don't Endorse Other Systems - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation

www.gnu.org

A careful reader (with a bit of research) will conclude that Debian is the way to go!

 

[Sherri is a Cat]

I've spent almost 2 days learning and troubleshooting to figure out how to set up a custom bridge network to connect to virtual machine.
But it's such a great experience, I've mastered the ip command which is the most important networking command, and also I've mastered how switches and bridges work at the fundamental level, on top of that I've also wrote nftables firewall scripts to make sure networking not only works but is also secure.

2 days of headache! but worth it, I like linux 100% I would never learn this low level stuff in windows.

I just changed my mind about what I have the most to learn. Networking. That's something I think I would make good use of. I had so many issues with the Giant I just never bothered...

I'll save that for later though. Wizardfromoz and assistance from Condobloke they have "taken me under their wings" so to speak on another topic. Like Chrisgayle said earlier, mind is shot with new information to absorb. I don't think I can handle another one yet!

 

[Chrisgayle]

See my comments in #46 I feel exactly the same way!

Yes but tell me about this when you download something from repository how do you know it's the best for you, did you check it in there store (well it doesn't exist) how it's not like windows Store which monitor you, invade your privacy etc, ofcourse you say well I check the source code by visiting the creator github. Ok then who give me guarantee that the repository give me the same thing what the creator created maybe they fool both of us creator and user, in simple ways who give them this power to act like big papa to everyone. For me the repository control or Linux administrator like Canonical same cheater like Google or apple.

 

[CaffeineAddict]

I don't think I can handle another one yet!

It takes time, what matters the most is that you enjoy learning.
I only learn stuff that interests me otherwise I would probably give up and just watch jokes on YT lol

 

[Sherri is a Cat]

Yes but tell me about this when you download something from repository how do you know it's the best for you, did you check it in there store (well it doesn't exist) how it's not like windows Store which monitor you, invade your privacy etc, ofcourse you say well I check the source code by visiting the creator github. Ok then who give me guarantee that the repository give me the same thing what the creator created maybe they fool both of us creator and user, in simple ways who give them this power to act like big papa to everyone. For me the repository control or Linux administrator like Canonical same cheater like Google or apple.

The way I understand it is that Linux and programs are all opensource. That means you can change things, personalize it. From what I've read, only a few are developing proprietary soft ware. The rest of them are something they wrote to meet their own personal needs. They share the code so others can build on what they wrote and personalize it for themselves. I think of it as a template.

Also, there is A LOT in the repository. Many programs have the same end goal in mind. Keep looking around for something that you like. I am far from versed in code, bit I've never had problems disabling things I don't like.

 

[Sherri is a Cat]

The way I understand it is that Linux and programs are all opensource. That means you can change things, personalize it. From what I've read, only a few are developing proprietary soft ware. The rest of them are something they wrote to meet their own personal needs. They share the code so others can build on what they wrote and personalize it for themselves. I think of it as a template.

Also, there is A LOT in the repository. Many programs have the same end goal in mind. Keep looking around for something that you like. I am far from versed in code, bit I've never had problems disabling things I don't like.

@Chrisgayle

This is a guess and I'm sure someone will tell me if I'm wrong...

Ubuntu is a very large community. Many of them are versed in code and understand it. If anything like the issues you are concerned with was a problem, we would all be made aware of it. Check out "Site Announcements" in "The Front Office". If anything like that is going on, I'm sure it would most likely come to someones attention and it would be posted there.

 

[Sherri is a Cat]

After read the repository document I check my system, I see a link but thats a download like only, so I see that people/creator give there pakages to the ubuntu authorities they check and put that pakage in there server, doest show what they did to that package how it shows to others nothing. like they says we know better that you to the creator.
As per user like me I didn't see the there store didn't check any detail, just download it (please note that there is no way to knew what pakages is exist in there server). Like they say to me just believe us we know this is best software for you.
Isn't it same like the corporate giant like Microsoft or Google, we know they didn't care about privacy, data security.
Same goes to Linux authorities. who give me guarantee that ubuntu doesn't do the same what Google or Microsoft did, kept monitoring me kept my data.
What's the difference between Linux authorities and Google, apple giants then

Another thing...

Just about all the opensource software I've ever used is in GitHub. It's developers forum. I've seen software that was removed for violations. I think someone else could explain this better than me. I found it useful to check out GitHub

 

[Chrisgayle]

Regarding privacy I suggest you to read about linux distros at FSF link here:

Explaining Why We Don't Endorse Other Systems - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation

www.gnu.org

A careful reader (with a bit of research) will conclude that Debian is the way to go!

Ok I will check it.
But for now I take myself little bit away from official repository. If I need some pakage I first download it then install it, I am not saying that they are fishy, I still respect and love Linux community and system. But I also doesn't blindy follow the high authorities like GNU, canonical. Please don't get mad at me I am not saying anything about Linux community. I know you all are awesome, you all accept me and hear my nonsense.

 

[Chrisgayle]

Another thing...

Just about all the opensource software I've ever used is in GitHub. It's developers forum. I've seen software that was removed for violations. I think someone else could explain this better than me. I found it useful to check out GitHub

You are correct.

 

[Sherri is a Cat]

@Chrisgayle

It sounds like your a security and privacy junky just like am! I understand your concerns so I'm passing on what I've learned. Nothing is foolproof, but so far I've never had any problems.

With the exception of my VPN, all of the extensions I use with Firefox are opensource. The few times there have been any issues, Firefox disables it for me. The issues nearly always have something to do with stability.