New to Linux, Nobara troubleshooting

[Maboi000]

With a new pc i decided to make the jump, and it was nice at first until the issues came. So, I'm not sure what happened but I must have done something wrong and hopefully y'all can help me with whatever happened.
During my first install, I've completed the installation process however, when it told me to restart to finish the installation, the PC wasn't turning back on (monitor was offline) and the power light was blinking on and off. After a moment of no responce I decided to shut it down and then reopen it after a bit.
This however, caused the boot to do it again and reinstall? Nobara into my pc. After that I strangely wasn't able to complete the instal nobara app. But that's not all, as when I thought I had done everything to have it be installed, I removed the usb and nobara kinda disappeared (no menu, or anything except the tabs i've already had open).
Restarting the pc for a third time, I'm currently going through the update system app and the welcome segment of nobara.

So my questions are:

• Is there something wrong, or that I have to fix?
• When exactly can I unplug the usb with the ISO and all that?

In-post edit: The update system app finished and supposedly repaired what was wrong but I hella don't trust anything it says since well.. I have no idea when exactly can I just disconnect the ISO usb.

The ISO usb has ventoy, I'm not familiar with the language and linux in general so please be patient with me and thank you for your attention!

 

[osprey]

Welcome!
Normally at the end of installation, the machine needs to reboot. The installer might have a button to click to reboot, or it may do it automatically. I can't say what the nobara installer specifically does, but in any case, the usb should be withdrawn after the installation completes, and before the reboot.

If one reboots whilst the installation usb is still connected, the machine is likely to boot again from that usb and start a new installation, which is not what is usually wanted.

With this statement: "I'm currently going through the update system app and the welcome segment of nobara" in post #1, it sounds like nobara is installed and going into the steps to finalise setting up. That does not sound like there is something wrong.

Since you've had some difficulty so far, it's understandable that you are wary, which I take is the case with the expression "I hella don't trust anything". Nevertheless, it's useful to know a few things, such as the following, about linux which may help dispel the mistrust.

Usually, any problem with a linux installation can be attended to and repaired without re-installation. There's an enormous wealth of information available world-wide to help with almost any issue, though sometimes it can take a little time to get the correct answers. Sources of information include official documentation from the distribution or other official sources, manual pages, forums such as this one, LUGs (linux user groups), linux discussion lists on email, blogs, youtube, and more. Not all sources are of the same merit so the capacity to sift needs to be developed. It grows with experience if one attends to it.

Familiarisation with the language in the linux ecosystem, or with the UNIX and its clone's ecosystem, usually comes with experience and usage of the system. It's the same process one needed to engage with when they were first introduced to computers such as into the MS universe. Linux comes with a new panoply of expressions, descriptions and explanations. It may seem like a trial at first, or even later at times, but it's an adventure and as knowledge accumulates and develops, a pleasure.

As for ultimate trust and confidence in linux, it's perhaps useful to point out that much of the server world and nearly all supercomputers run linux. In servers alone, a recent aficionado mentioned that "the world runs on debian ... 70% of servers use debian" which was doubtless because debian runs a stable release with extremely high rates of reliability. Nobara is known for other things however, like being set up for gaming, streaming and with the inclusion of proprietary graphics drivers already installed.

It sounds like your installation of nobara is working as you mention it's "supposedly repaired", so that's a relief I guess. If you have specific questions, then readers will no doubt be able to provide some answers or pointers. When asking, it's useful to provide some details of the machine such as those provided by the output of a terminal command like: inxi.

 

[Maboi000]

Welcome!
Normally at the end of installation, the machine needs to reboot. The installer might have a button to click to reboot, or it may do it automatically. I can't say what the nobara installer specifically does, but in any case, the usb should be withdrawn after the installation completes, and before the reboot.

If one reboots whilst the installation usb is still connected, the machine is likely to boot again from that usb and start a new installation, which is not what is usually wanted.

With this statement: "I'm currently going through the update system app and the welcome segment of nobara" in post #1, it sounds like nobara is installed and going into the steps to finalise setting up. That does not sound like there is something wrong.

Since you've had some difficulty so far, it's understandable that you are wary, which I take is the case with the expression "I hella don't trust anything". Nevertheless, it's useful to know a few things, such as the following, about linux which may help dispel the mistrust.

Usually, any problem with a linux installation can be attended to and repaired without re-installation. There's an enormous wealth of information available world-wide to help with almost any issue, though sometimes it can take a little time to get the correct answers. Sources of information include official documentation from the distribution or other official sources, manual pages, forums such as this one, LUGs (linux user groups), linux discussion lists on email, blogs, youtube, and more. Not all sources are of the same merit so the capacity to sift needs to be developed. It grows with experience if one attends to it.

Familiarisation with the language in the linux ecosystem, or with the UNIX and its clone's ecosystem, usually comes with experience and usage of the system. It's the same process one needed to engage with when they were first introduced to computers such as into the MS universe. Linux comes with a new panoply of expressions, descriptions and explanations. It may seem like a trial at first, or even later at times, but it's an adventure and as knowledge accumulates and develops, a pleasure.

As for ultimate trust and confidence in linux, it's perhaps useful to point out that much of the server world and nearly all supercomputers run linux. In servers alone, a recent aficionado mentioned that "the world runs on debian ... 70% of servers use debian" which was doubtless because debian runs a stable release with extremely high rates of reliability. Nobara is known for other things however, like being set up for gaming, streaming and with the inclusion of proprietary graphics drivers already installed.

It sounds like your installation of nobara is working as you mention it's "supposedly repaired", so that's a relief I guess. If you have specific questions, then readers will no doubt be able to provide some answers or pointers. When asking, it's useful to provide some details of the machine such as those provided by the output of a terminal command like: inxi.

Thank you for the help and the encouraging words!
Currently there doesn't seem to be any issue, so i'll go and do a restart and remove the usb and hopefully not lose anything in the process. For records here's what inxi gave me:
CPU: quad core Intel Core i7-7700 (-MT MCP-) speed/min/max: 1200/800/4200 MHz
Kernel: 6.18.2-200.nobara.fc43.x86_64 x86_64 Up: 47m
Mem: 4.36/11.59 GiB (37.7%) Storage: 506.24 GiB (4.4% used) Procs: 332
Shell: Bash inxi: 3.3.39

I also happen to have 2 version of Nobara on my pc now? I don't know what exactly but when the iso rebooted a new version there was a previous version of the install on the pc... its very weird. Hopefully nothing unusual but I haven't found much online about this issue.

 

[osprey]

Thank you for the help and the encouraging words!
Currently there doesn't seem to be any issue, so i'll go and do a restart and remove the usb and hopefully not lose anything in the process. For records here's what inxi gave me:
CPU: quad core Intel Core i7-7700 (-MT MCP-) speed/min/max: 1200/800/4200 MHz
Kernel: 6.18.2-200.nobara.fc43.x86_64 x86_64 Up: 47m
Mem: 4.36/11.59 GiB (37.7%) Storage: 506.24 GiB (4.4% used) Procs: 332
Shell: Bash inxi: 3.3.39

I also happen to have 2 version of Nobara on my pc now? I don't know what exactly but when the iso rebooted a new version there was a previous version of the install on the pc... its very weird. Hopefully nothing unusual but I haven't found much online about this issue.

To check on the installation and see what's installed you can run the terminal command: lsblk. For example, on this machine the output is thus:

[~]$ lsblk
sr0          11:0    1  1024M  0 rom
nvme0n1     259:0    0 465.8G  0 disk
├─nvme0n1p1 259:1    0   476M  0 part /boot/efi
├─nvme0n1p2 259:2    0  14.9G  0 part [SWAP]
└─nvme0n1p3 259:3    0 450.4G  0 part /

The output shows 2 devices, a cdrom device named /dev/sr0, and an nvme disk named /dev/nvme01. The nvme disk is divided into 3 partitions, the efi boot partition, a swap partition, and the rest of the disk where the root partition "/" is located which includes the installation of the system files and the /home directory of the user. The whole disk is 500G or 465GiB. It works and everything looks to be in order. You can check your system similarly.

Note that I've used code tags to show the output of the command about which you can see here for info: https://linux.org/threads/the-code-tag-and-why-it-matters.57746/#post-276419. That formatting helps readers.

 

[Maboi000]

To check on the installation and see what's installed you can run the terminal command: lsblk. For example, on this machine the output is thus:

[~]$ lsblk
sr0          11:0    1  1024M  0 rom
nvme0n1     259:0    0 465.8G  0 disk
├─nvme0n1p1 259:1    0   476M  0 part /boot/efi
├─nvme0n1p2 259:2    0  14.9G  0 part [SWAP]
└─nvme0n1p3 259:3    0 450.4G  0 part /

The output shows 2 devices, a cdrom device named /dev/sr0, and an nvme disk named /dev/nvme01. The nvme disk is divided into 3 partitions, the efi boot partition, a swap partition, and the rest of the disk where the root partition "/" is located which includes the installation of the system files and the /home directory of the user. The whole disk is 500G or 465MiB. It works and everything looks to be in order. You can check your system similarly.

Note that I've used code tags to show the output of the command about which you can see here for info: https://linux.org/threads/the-code-tag-and-why-it-matters.57746/#post-276419. That formatting helps readers.

I was able to connect to the nobara community discord, they helped out in finishing my installation. As it turns out the 3 versions of nobara i saw are the "just in case" backups of the system. So everything is all fine and good!

Thank you again for the help! Hope you have a good day

 

[KGIII]

CPU: quad core Intel Core i7-7700 (-MT MCP-) speed/min/max: 1200/800/4200 MHz
Kernel: 6.18.2-200.nobara.fc43.x86_64 x86_64 Up: 47m
Mem: 4.36/11.59 GiB (37.7%) Storage: 506.24 GiB (4.4% used) Procs: 332

I will add that, once you get it up and running, that system should run Linux just fine. You're a little thin in the RAM department, but that's a 'liveable' amount of RAM. There are RAM-hungry applications. Also, for the most part, unused RAM is wasted RAM. Obviously, you can't use all of it and expect things to work well, but you can use quite a bit of it and be just fine.

But, my real reason to post this was that I have a couple of questions. Why did you go with Nobara? Are you at all familiar with Linux, or is this really your first time trying it?

You're absolutely free to do whatever you want (Linux is great like that), but I usually suggest starting as close to the root of the tree as you can. Nobara is pretty close. It's a distro based on a distro. So, that's good. Fedora would be the root of the tree, if you'll allow my metaphor. So, you're not too far away. It's just unusual.

In all of my years doing this, I don't recall all that many that started with Nobara.

That said, welcome aboard! If you have good backups (and have tested your restoration process), you're able to explore with ease and comfort. With proper backups, you can break your system all you want. You won't have to worry about losing any data because you've got your important data backed up.

There's a learning curve. I'd keep in mind that every single person on this site was a new user at some point. Not one of us was born with an innate ability to use Linux. The learning curve can be a lot of fun. It has been years and years, but I still learn new stuff all of the time.

 

[theLegionWithin]

You're a little thin in the RAM department, but that's a 'liveable' amount of RAM.

wow yeah 12gb is a bit low - and sort of an odd number too. I wonder if swap took 4gb. 16gb is as low as I'd ever go with something like nobara (as its intended use is gaming and that is typically resource heavy) - though I guess in recent days ram is somewhat pricey. glad I got my new rig last year when ram was still super cheap and went w/ 64gb.