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I've installed linux mint 22.2 on a pretty old computer but I've been having trouble with the computer sometimes completely freezing and forcing me to shut it down when I open a program.
some games (only games that are 3D like TF2 and CS2) run much worse than they do on windows 10 (I am dual booting). my games run just fine when i boot into my windows 10 drive and play them

also, CS2 doesn't even launch when I try to use the native linux version, it only even launches when I use proton

-my hardware
CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6400 CPU @ 2.70GHz
Motherboard: H110M PRO-VH PLUS (MS-7A15)
Tobago PRO [Radeon R7 360 / R9 360 OEM]

-potentially important system info
Kernel: 6.14.0-36-generic
Linux Mint 22.2 Cinnamon

-what I tried:
I tried to install firmware for my GPU but the AMD website sends just brings me to a page with a bunch of text when I press the download button
then I found out the kernal is supposed to have AMD firmware already installed on it

[not impotant]
this is my first interaction with the linux community hi everyone! :]
 


anatoly1423 said:
I've installed linux mint 22.2 on a pretty old computer but I've been having trouble with the computer sometimes completely freezing and forcing me to shut it down when I open a program.
some games (only games that are 3D like TF2 and CS2) run much worse than they do on windows 10 (I am dual booting). my games run just fine when i boot into my windows 10 drive and play them

also, CS2 doesn't even launch when I try to use the native linux version, it only even launches when I use proton

-my hardware
CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6400 CPU @ 2.70GHz
Motherboard: H110M PRO-VH PLUS (MS-7A15)
Tobago PRO [Radeon R7 360 / R9 360 OEM]

-potentially important system info
Kernel: 6.14.0-36-generic
Linux Mint 22.2 Cinnamon

-what I tried:
I tried to install firmware for my GPU but the AMD website sends just brings me to a page with a bunch of text when I press the download button
then I found out the kernal is supposed to have AMD firmware already installed on it

[not impotant]
this is my first interaction with the linux community hi everyone! :]
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Hi! anatoly1423 & Welcome to Linux.org. :)

I looked up your Radeon R7 360 and it's about 10 years old.

R9 360 OEM vs R7 360

AMD R7 360 vs R9 360 OEM: technical specs, games and benchmarks.
technical.city technical.city

You're right in that the kernel should already have support for the amdgpu driver.
You can run this command to see if the driver is installed.
Code: 
lsmod | grep amdgpu

And this one to see the correct kernel driver is loading.
Code: 
lspci -k

Proton (developed by Valve) as far as I know is needed for running games in Linux when using Steam. You may have to go back to kernel 5.10 for Vulcan support....not 100% sure. The older R7 360 if I'm not mistaken, is the legacy support model.

Let's see what our moderator @f33dm3bits says.
 
I wouldn't install another driver until you know which one is already installed or running with your current kernel.
When the wrong driver loads it often caused the device not to work.

Wait for @f33dm3bits or @Brickwizard. :)
 
While you wait, reboot, and at the grub menu, arrow down to use the 6.8 kernel

Give it a run and see if it makes a difference for you.

If it does, I can tell you how to get rid of 6.14

If it doesn't, when you reboot again, the pc will auto reboot into 6.14
 
Alexzee said:
I wouldn't install another driver until you know which one is already installed or running with your current kernel.
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I suggest him to enable older radeon
Code: 
radeon.cik_support=1

and disable amdgpu
Code: 
 amdgpu.cik_support=0

By sending two parameters to the kernel.
 
anatoly1423 said:
I've installed linux mint 22.2 on a pretty old computer
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6.14 was apparently aimed at 'newer' pc's

There have been a few problems with some older machines, not all of them

worth a shot
 
Condobloke said:
While you wait, reboot, and at the grub menu, arrow down to use the 6.8 kernel

Give it a run and see if it makes a difference for you.

If it does, I can tell you how to get rid of 6.14

If it doesn't, when you reboot again, the pc will auto reboot into 6.14
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I tried this first (because it's the only solution I could comprehend going through without a headache) and it actually worked for me, I tested a few games that gave me trouble and they seem to work fine now, would love to know how to get rid of 6.14
 
Click on Update manager
Then on View, and then on Linux Kernels

Select (single click to highlight0 6.14 and click on Remove
 
Mint 22.2 comes with Kernel 6.14 which has known problems...you need to use 6.8.
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anatoly1423 said:
I've installed linux mint 22.2 on a pretty old computer

-my hardware
CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6400 CPU @ 2.70GHz
Motherboard: H110M PRO-VH PLUS (MS-7A15)
Tobago PRO [Radeon R7 360 / R9 360 OEM]

-potentially important system info
Kernel: 6.14.0-36-generic
Linux Mint 22.2 Cinnamon

-what I tried:
I tried to install firmware for my GPU but the AMD website sends just brings me to a page with a bunch of text when I press the download button
then I found out the kernal is supposed to have AMD firmware already installed on it
Click to expand...

I curious what do you consider an old computer.

Open the terminal and copy and paste this command and then copy and paste the output displayed to a post.

Please use code tags,
Post output between them.
They are located top bar 3 vertical dots and look like </>

Code: 
inxi -Fxz

anatoly1423 said:
[not impotant]
this is my first interaction with the linux community hi everyone! :]
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Welcome to the forum @anatoly1423
 
Answered
anatoly1423 said:
I've installed linux mint 22.2 on a pretty old computer
Click to expand...
6.14 was apparently aimed at 'newer' pc's

There have been a few problems with some older machines, not all of them

worth a shot
 
Condobloke said:
Answered

6.14 was apparently aimed at 'newer' pc's

There have been a few problems with some older machines, not all of them

worth a shot
Click to expand...
I had a problem with my MX linux machine last week. CPU usage went to 100% and everything took 10 times longer to work from boot time to opening programs. I restarted a few times and it didn't solve the issue until I did an update which included an update to the kernel. Once I did that the issue went away but yea that kernel is problematic it seems.
 
Condobloke said:
Answered

6.14 was apparently aimed at 'newer' pc's

There have been a few problems with some older machines, not all of them

worth a shot
Click to expand...
Guess I'm one of the lucky ones.

Code: 
ubuntu-24-04-2-lts@HP-Compaq-Pro-6300-SFF:~$ uname -r
6.14.0-36-generic

Code: 
ubuntu-24-04-2-lts@HP-Compaq-Pro-6300-SFF:~$ inxi -Fxz
System:
  Kernel: 6.14.0-36-generic arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 13.3.0
  Desktop: GNOME v: 46.0 Distro: Ubuntu 24.04.3 LTS (Noble Numbat)
Machine:
  Type: Desktop System: Hewlett-Packard product: HP Compaq Pro 6300 SFF v: N/A
    serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: Hewlett-Packard model: 339A serial: <superuser required>
    BIOS: Hewlett-Packard v: K01 v03.08 date: 04/10/2019

Code: 
ubuntu-24-04-2-lts@HP-Compaq-Pro-6300-SFF:~$ inxi -Fxz
System:
  Kernel: 6.14.0-36-generic arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 13.3.0
  Desktop: GNOME v: 46.0 Distro: Ubuntu 24.04.3 LTS (Noble Numbat)
Machine:
  Type: Desktop System: Hewlett-Packard product: HP Compaq Pro 6300 SFF v: N/A
    serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: Hewlett-Packard model: 339A serial: <superuser required>
    BIOS: Hewlett-Packard v: K01 v03.08 date: 04/10/2019
CPU:
  Info: quad core model: Intel Core i5-3470 bits: 64 type: MCP
    arch: Ivy Bridge rev: 9 cache: L1: 256 KiB L2: 1024 KiB L3: 6 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 1635 high: 1741 min/max: 1600/3600 cores: 1: 1600
    2: 1600 3: 1741 4: 1600 bogomips: 25541
  Flags: avx ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel Xeon E3-1200 v2/3rd Gen Core processor Graphics
    vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: i915 v: kernel arch: Gen-7 bus-ID: 00:02.0
  Display: wayland server: X.Org v: 23.2.6 with: Xwayland v: 23.2.6
    compositor: gnome-shell driver: dri: crocus gpu: i915
    resolution: 1024x768~75Hz
  API: EGL v: 1.5 drivers: crocus,swrast platforms:
    active: gbm,wayland,x11,surfaceless,device inactive: N/A
  API: OpenGL v: 4.5 compat-v: 4.2 vendor: intel mesa
    v: 25.0.7-0ubuntu0.24.04.2 glx-v: 1.4 direct-render: yes renderer: Mesa
    Intel HD Graphics 2500 (IVB GT1)
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel 7 Series/C216 Family High Definition Audio
    vendor: Hewlett-Packard 7 driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0
  API: ALSA v: k6.14.0-36-generic status: kernel-api
  Server-1: PipeWire v: 1.0.5 status: active
Network:
  Device-1: Intel 82579LM Gigabit Network vendor: Hewlett-Packard
    driver: e1000e v: kernel port: f080 bus-ID: 00:19.0
  IF: eno1 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 149.05 GiB used: 13.3 GiB (8.9%)
  ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Seagate model: ST3160815AS size: 149.05 GiB
Partition:
  ID-1: / size: 145.65 GiB used: 13.3 GiB (9.1%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda2
Swap:
  ID-1: swap-1 type: file size: 4 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) file: /swap.img
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 25.0 C mobo: N/A
  Fan Speeds (rpm): N/A
Info:
  Memory: total: 8 GiB available: 7.63 GiB used: 2.13 GiB (27.9%)
  Processes: 227 Uptime: 19h 24m Init: systemd target: graphical (5)
  Packages: 1753 Compilers: gcc: 13.3.0 Shell: Bash v: 5.2.21 inxi: 3.3.34
ubuntu-24-04-2-lts@HP-Compaq-Pro-6300-SFF:~$
 
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