usb boot stick for macbook pro 2008 unibody

hello ...

does any one here ....
know where to get any linux os to make a boot stick ?

for a macbook pro 2008 unibody
without hdd or cd operating

without another mac to make this stick
just some windows xp pc without internet connection !

it would be best if I just could do it all
on this library linux system here
to download it with

and make the stick as well

where I of course have no admin rights ...
and can not formate the stick on ....

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atanere

Well-Known Member
where I of course have no admin rights ...
I think this may be a problem. Linux has a built-in application (the "dd" command) that can burn a Linux .iso file to a USB stick for you, but that command needs admin (sudo) privileges. Or you would need sudo rights to install another application to do this task, like Unetbootin, balenaEtcher, or whatever.

So, I think you need to find another friend to help you, unless the library will assist (but they would understandably be worried to protect their systems and network). There are many ways to burn the .iso files in Windows or Linux. And you will also have to know which one you want to download, or already have it with you on another USB.The burning process needs to be from a hard drive to your USB stick, and this process will probably totally erase the USB that you burn Linux on to.
 
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thanks for the answer !

I have an acer aspire 4315 lap top going ...
to take with to the library and then having unlimited internet via wlan

what could I do with this ?

there is windows xp on it
but as well a second partition on the hdd
where to put a linux ?

or delete the windows an install a linux then ?

the only thing > this is a bios system from 2007
and how could I make a boot stick with this
for the > efi < system of a macbook pro
unibody ?

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atanere

Well-Known Member
You don't need to store the Linux .iso download on a separate partition. Downloading to your hard drive is just an intermediate step so you can "burn" the .iso to a USB flash drive. After that, you can delete it. (Remember that "burning the .iso" is not the same as "copying" to the USB... "burning makes it bootable, and "copying" does not.) You need to install software on XP that you can burn the image. Many should work, but sometimes there are some that may not work well with some Linux versions. Look for Windows software like Unetbootin, Rufus, balenaEtcher, and Universal USB Installer. They are all free, and one or more should burn the image for you.

It doesn't matter that the Acer BIOS-based system will download the file and burn the .iso... what matters is that you choose a Linux distro that will work with EFI/UEFI like your Mac, since that is where you intend to install it. Not all Linux distros will work, so be careful with your choice.... or you will be back at the library to download something else. Linux Mint and Ubuntu are both very newbie friendly and should work. Fedora is another that is very UEFI capable.

I've never owned a Mac, but some people seem to install Linux fairly easily, and sometimes there are problems with hardware compatibility, etc. The choice of distro might also make a difference in this aspect too, but I don't know any way to help guide you except just to tell you to try it and see what happens. If the Mac gives you trouble, you might consider using the older Acer laptop instead.

Cheers
 
hello ...

the acer aspire 4315 has keyboard problems !

like so many of them ... and as of now ...
I see no way to even want to fix this !

but I have build a pentium3 pc together
where to install a linux

I have downloaded a linux lite 3.2 at the library
how can I make a installation cd from this ?

to install linux lite on this pc ?

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hello ...

thanks for the link ...
but I already have been searching all over
and it seems even linux lite is blown up now a days
so it does no fit on to a cd

only some early distributions
are small enough to fit

and I do want one of them
but are they functional for browsers
we need today ?

and where to get one ?

two reasons for wanting this >
first to take care of this limited pentium 3 resourses
second to be able to download them it all !

since even at the library
the limit is around 1gb
then is shuts down

and here at our place
we are having only 1gb per month total

do you have any idea ?

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atanere

Well-Known Member
so it does no fit on to a cd

only some early distributions
are small enough to fit
Yes, you have very few options to fit on a CD these days. But I do have a couple of ideas for you... first: Slax. The .iso files (both 32-bit and 64-bit) are less than 300 MB. It is up to date, and it has a graphical desktop and web browser... but not much else. It is really designed to run from the CD itself (or a USB flash drive) and it runs fairly well this way.

You still must "burn the .iso" image to the CD with proper software... not just "copy" it to the CD, or else it will not boot a computer. Using a USB flash drive is better, if you can, because it can save changes you might make, or it will allow you to install more software... and the CD can't do that. The CD may allow you to save changes and install software to a hard drive without installing Slax, but I'm not sure. You can install Slax to a hard drive too, but you'll have to read the directions on how to do that. It does not install to a hard drive like regular Linux distros. By the way, Slax is based on Debian now, and it can install software from their repositories... so that could be very helpful too.

There is also a newly released Puppy Linux, BionicPup. It also has both 32-bit and 64-bit versions... the 64-bit is about 354 MB and 32-bit is 270 MB. Like Slax, Puppy should run okay from the CD itself, and I think that it will also let you save changes to a hard drive, if one is present. But I'm not sure about this for either Puppy or Slax... I don't use them regularly so I don't know all their capabilities. You will still need to "burn the .iso" image to the CD, and not just "copy" it.

Good luck!
 
great help !

desktop and browser will be enough >
because I do want this just as a internet pc for now !
to see how it will work ...

I will have to decide on the 32 or 64 bit version
and check on this tomorrow in the library ....

I will let you know ... how it goes after !

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atanere

Well-Known Member
64-bit is better if you have a 64-bit CPU in the computer. But it is good that 32-bit versions are still being made by some of the developers, like these.

Cheers
 
hello ...

so you are developing 32 bit versions
out off 64 bit or ?

I have been reading about slax just now
and it say there >

" any cpu from this century
will take the 64 bit version "

but I am not sure about this 64 bit statement

because as far as I know
the intel pentium 3 from around 2001
will be only a 32 bit cpu ...

do you know more about this ?

and if I boot this from a cd
then any malware will not do any harm

but an a usb or hdd it could ....
is this right ?

or is linux not changed by any malware
since it runs differently then windows ?

but any how
this slax seems to have even an editor
to write simple text I want to do
so it could be fine
for what I need

has the chromium a composer
like the sea monkey ?

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atanere

Well-Known Member
so you are developing 32 bit versions
out off 64 bit or ?
No, I am not a developer. I was only saying that I am glad the other people are still making Linux for 32-bit computers. There are less and less every year, so the day will come when no one will be making them at all.


" any cpu from this century
will take the 64 bit version "

but I am not sure about this 64 bit statement
You are right. That is an exaggeration.


because as far as I know
the intel pentium 3 from around 2001
will be only a 32 bit cpu ...

do you know more about this ?
You are right again. You will need the 32-bit version for any Linux... Slax, Puppy, or other. As I said above though, many people have stopped making 32-bit versions. So you are very limited to what will work for you.


and if I boot this from a cd
then any malware will not do any harm

but an a usb or hdd it could ....
is this right ?
Yes, you are right again, or almost completely right. The possibility of getting malware using a CD is extremely small. With USB or HDD it is easier because malware can "write data" to those drive, where the CD cannot. But the possibility for malware on the USB/HDD is also very small too. As you said above, Windows has more chance of malware than Linux.


has the chromium a composer
like the sea monkey ?
I am not sure, but I don't think that it does have a composer. If you like Slax, you may decide later to install it to a USB or HDD, and then it would be possible to install Sea Monkey too. But it will be good to run Slax just from the CD for a little while to see how you like it.

Cheers
 
thanks for all the answers !

I will work on getting slaxs to a pentium
using " unetbooting " to burn it onto ?

now back to the original question >

I got a mac os 10.5.6 dmg on a stick !
and since the internet is telling me

that you can not install a linux on a macbook pro
without having a mac osx on it first

we have to find a way to >
installing this mac os 10.5.6 dmg
on the mbp unibody first !

so ... how do I get this onto a bootable stick ?
with only linux or windows xp ?

and if you do not know ...

do you know ?
where to find some one knowing ?

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hello ...

I have been reading in some great linux book some
as well as looking in some other big library
at their linux work station there
and a mac os book

and I want to ask you ...
what I have been finding out there ....


the linux work station has a kde desktop on it
meaning there is libre office on there etc

and the kde burning app

where we have to choose > either music titles
burning onto a cd ... or files burning

is this the same as the > dd < command
you have been telling me about ?

where the iso downloads have to be made into a cd or usb stick
so it can be used to install or make a live installation with ?

but those two can not be the same ...
there must be a difference between having a cd
for making an installation with
and a bootable cd !

and this is the mbr on the file part of the bootable cd ?

but both are burnted not written on to the cd
like with the windows xp writing onto cd program
that just writes the iso onto the cd

with is a container file name for pcs
meaning we are having all these files put into one as iso
like dmg is a container for macs ... when looking at it with a pc

no individual files can be looked at
so dmg is the container file for mac

as iso is for linux ?


so if I want to make a boot
or installation usb stick for this mac book pro later
there would be a virtual mac machine being needed
on this coming linux pc ...

because only this can read dmg files
and a app to burn this then with

do you know any vm such as this ?



by the way ...

I think ... if this whole world would be working
like linux is for providing operation systems
then we would have it made ...

for as long as they are not keeping on
making every thing ever bigger and bigger ....

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...... I have just tried to burn a slaxs live booting cd
on this ubuntu cd burner ... but it is aparently disabled ....

but if I stick my iso file in this linux pc
it unpacks the slaxs files

and then all the files put in there apearing
in the "archive manager " after some time
including boot > boot.bat

that put into a windows pc
would start installing ... slaxs ...

but because I am having no administration rights here
I can not copy slaxs as a opened file

so I will get same application for the windows xp
to do this ...

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atanere

Well-Known Member
that you can not install a linux on a macbook pro
without having a mac osx on it first
I don't think that's true, but I'm not a Mac user so I can't be sure. Maybe @Rob or other Mac user will know for sure.

To the best of my knowledge, if you have Linux on a USB (or CD, or DVD) and your BIOS/UEFI is configured to boot on those media, then you do not even need a hard drive installed at all.
 

atanere

Well-Known Member
and then all the files put in there apearing
in the "archive manager " after some time
including boot > boot.bat

that put into a windows pc
would start installing ... slaxs ...
That may work, but your hard drive needs to already be formatted as FAT32 or EXT4 (and it probably is not... even Windows XP would be formatted as NTFS). You need to carefully follow the instructions on the Slax website about how to install it... it is not a typical Linux distro. I'd really suggest properly burning the Slax .iso file to a CD/DVD/USB and starting with that.
 
I don't think that's true, but I'm not a Mac user so I can't be sure. Maybe @Rob or other Mac user will know for sure.

To the best of my knowledge, if you have Linux on a USB (or CD, or DVD) and your BIOS/UEFI is configured to boot on those media, then you do not even need a hard drive installed at all.

hello

it just loads all the linux onto the ram ?
and this being the reason > that even with slaxs ...
you need at least 512 mb of ram

ps ... I already ask rob in the other thread ....

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That may work, but your hard drive needs to already be formatted as FAT32 or EXT4 (and it probably is not... even Windows XP would be formatted as NTFS). You need to carefully follow the instructions on the Slax website about how to install it... it is not a typical Linux distro. I'd really suggest properly burning the Slax .iso file to a CD/DVD/USB and starting with that.

but ....

if it will just install a live installation
then it would just ... load all needed files onto the pc ram
so there is no hdd needed as you are saying
because it will not write onto the hdd any way

or ?


but ... I am looking just now for >
an app to burning this slaxs with the windows xp ....

and I am having already some other linux
with a cinnamen desktop here loaded down
for a permanent installation of linux
on the pentium 3

and if I would find a virtual mashine for either linux or windows xp
to have a virtual mac

then I could make there a boot stick for the os 10.5.6 dmg
to install this onto the mac book pro unibody

what do you think about this ?

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