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lluga

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Ok, it worked thanks

what concerns to my desktop, i choosed the smaller partition this time (as you can see from the screenshots)
the installation was succesfull but again only till reboot
at reboot phase, something went wrong again and the full installation failed
the last screenshot is just in case, don't know if helps

thanks for replying

Lluga
 

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what concerns to my desktop, i choosed the smaller partition this time (as you can see from the screenshots)
Wasn't the system already installed? Why are you reinstalling it? and why in the smaller partition?
the installation was succesfull but again only till reboot
at reboot phase, something went wrong again and the full installation failed
the last screenshot is just in case, don't know if helps
Provide the following info please:
Make, model and capacity storage of the hard disk drive.
I haven't been able to take a look at all those pics due to my connection being particularly slow today plus some are quite big(one is 6,5mb, any chance you could make them smaller?), but it seems to me that you're trying to install to a USB? Is that USB the same drive the Live system is running from? If that's the case, it won't work.
 

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well, now I'm a bit confuse here sorry.
You said at the beginning that if the icon at the upper left corner of the desktop were there, that meant the OS wasn't yet installed, so i supposed it isn't yet. In addiction, i tried to boot the machine from the HDD and there's no OS to boot as i can understand. At least it doesn't appear to the monitor (in this case of course i took the USB from the Machine before).
So if the system is already installed, why he doesn't boot from the HDD ? without USB connected
I tried to install it in the smaller partition because there are 3 partitions, from what i could see, the 10Gb was too big and the 1.5 Gb didn't work, he gave me a failure. So the only chance was the 3Mb and it worked, till reboot.
I brought the HDD information on the screenshot. Seems to be a Maxtor STM3160215AS with 149.05Gb
If i'm trying to install to the USB ? I supposed i didn't, cause i thought the USB was fully fulfilled with the OS. Furthermore, i could only see 1 other partition capable to have the installation, but i suppose i saw it wrong.
You're right, i think i tried to install it in the USB. Anyway there are not so many partitions and if i try to create some, i suppose the Machine won't stand it !?
I took some screenshots from the Gparted

Thank you very much again, me too i take my time. don't worry to reply quickly.
You're already being a very nice help

thanks again

Lluga
 

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You said at the beginning that if the icon at the upper left corner of the desktop were there, that meant the OS wasn't yet installed, so i supposed it isn't yet. In addiction, i tried to boot the machine from the HDD and there's no OS to boot as i can understand. At least it doesn't appear to the monitor (in this case of course i took the USB from the Machine before).
Yes, if the "install MX-Linux" icon is on the desktop, then it means you're in live mode. In one of your previous pics, it seemed the system was installed, but you did install to a USB, then formatted that USB and system's now gone.

I tried to install it in the smaller partition because there are 3 partitions, from what i could see, the 10Gb was too big and the 1.5 Gb didn't work, he gave me a failure. So the only chance was the 3Mb and it worked, till reboot.
You have plenty of space to install. In one pic I saw there's 129 GB available, the one which reads as "unallocated" you can use that space to install MX-Linux, you just need to format it. You're making a few mistakes:
1. You're trying to create partitions on your own and leaving the biggest one out, why? Use that one!
2. The 3mb partition was part of the live system; it was the EFI-live partition, and you can't install anything there.
3. You're trying to install the system in the same USB the system is running from; you're selecting the wrong disk. Use the one with 129 GB as that is the only HDD available to install.
Try installing again by following these steps:
1. Boot the Live system and once in MX's desktop launch Gparted
2. Select the drive with "unallocated" space, right-click on it and from the menu select format to, select ext4 as the file system, then follow the same procedure you used to format the USB. If you don't want to use the whole disk for whatever reason, you can resize it after.
3. Click on the Install MX icon to start the process, leave the defaults, this time the 129 GB disk should be available to install. It should be something like this:

In option 1 select the 129 GB disk, or if you did resize it select that, then tick the box in 1c "Auto-install using entire disk", click next. Click "yes" when asked if "ok to format and use the entire disk for MX Linux". I guess you've been using option 1b "Rearrange disk partitions(optional)" without knowing exactly what you were doing and that's why it keeps failing.
4. From there on you should be familiar by now with the next steps: Create your user, set the password for said user, confirm everything is right, click start and wait for the install process to finish, reboot and hopefully you should be able to finally enjoy your system.
Remember: use installer defaults, the people who made it know better than you and I :)

 
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lluga

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yes, yes i'll do that
you saw a picture without the "install" icon, cause it was from my laptop's Monitor
To my Laptop the system was, as shown before, well installed and it works properly, as i'm writing you from it
The problem is my Growing Desktop with a Foxconn Motherboard, not my Laptop Toshiba with an Intel Motherboard and a 500Gb HDD
by the way, could you tell me how to install Skype to Linux Mx ?
when i download it from Skype official webSite, there's no install app to run and i don't know what to do with the files on the screenshot below and/or with the command

Thanks a lot

Lluga
 

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by the way, could you tell me how to install Skype to Linux Mx ?
I'm not using MX at the moment but I kind of remember skype being available to install using mx-packageinstaller tool:
1. Launch the tool mx-packageinstaller.
2. Type "skype" in the search box.
3. Check the box next to it.
4. Click install.

If it's not available in that tool, right-click the .deb file you downloaded and select install with gdebi or install with synaptic/package manager like I said I'm not using MX so wording/procedure might've changed a bit but not by much. Try that and if it doesn't work, or you can't figure it out, then do this:
1. Place skypeforlinux.deb in your home directory.
2. Open the terminal and type
Code:
sudo apt-install ./skypeforlinux.deb #use the actual name of the file.
Type in your password when asked, hit enter and wait for the install process to finish.

you saw a picture without the "install" icon, cause it was from my laptop's Monitor
Ah, I see.
 

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Thanks
once more you were clearly very helpful
I now have Skype in my Laptop :)
concerning to the Desktop, well ... i couldn't format as you said, cause i had no tool active, and since it appears to me to be senseless to demount it, like i made with the USB, i didn't use the tool to demount
Anyway, i create a new partition from the non allocated 129Gb partition and it worked
Now i have a147Gb Disk partition as an ext4 file like you proposed
I used the option "use the entire disk"
But then, after installation complete and again at the reboot phase it didn't work
It freezes by the 2nd screenshot
 

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But then, after installation complete and again at the reboot phase it didn't work
In the first pic I see that the system, antiX, is/was/seems to be installed in /dev/sda1, and then it seems that you formatted it? Why? Are you installing MX-Linux or antiX? Regarding the second pic, sorry, but I've no idea what that means, it seems to be some kind of screen with info about the hardware, but I don't know how that can or can't be related to the system failing to boot. Did that appear on reboot?
 

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Hi,

- if AntiX is installed at /dev/sda1 i don't know, maybe you can tell it better than I. But if yes, why doesn't he boot from the HDD without USB attached ?
- I didn't formatted it, the screenshot is just to show the possibilities I have with this Partition
- I have 2 ISOs (AntiX and MX) i'm trying to install AntiX in the Desktop now, cause I have MX in my Laptop
- The 2nd picture appears after the system tried to reboot, it ends the installation at the Monitor, it shuts down and tries to reboot, and it's exactly there that it stops.
- I show you the last screenshot just to inform that the reboot Process (after shutting down and trying to boot again) ends here (bit after rebooting start), where it shouldn't

thanks again

Lluga
 

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If AntiX is installed at /dev/sda1 i don't know, maybe you can tell it better than I. But if yes, why doesn't he boot from the HDD without USB attached ?
Just wondering, did you change the boot order in the BIOS? If you haven't, do that. I think the problem is that the machine is still set to boot from the USB and not from the HDD, where antiX is installed, so you should check that, set it to boot from the internal disk, save your changes, reboot and if I'm right, you might finally enjoy your system in your desktop pc. :)
 

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Yes, I do that always, boot process is set to HDD first, as shown at the 2nd picture below
I still can't boot from HDD
Anyway, i also didn't install GRUB. I took out the option to see if worked. It doesn't.
With the option GRUB installation checked i receive always the same error as shown at the 1st screenshot below.
The question is that I don't know exactly how to use this tool "GRUB Rescue", in order to repair the installation, like the message says
At the GNU GRUB, which is a kind of Main Menu to set some repairs, I find 2 options that may be important :

- Find GRUB bootloaders
- Find GRUB Menus

When I choose "Find GRUB Menus" it finds GRUB Menu at :

(hdo, msdos2) : AntiX-UEFI and
(hdo,msdos1) : antiX-Live-usb

then ask me to press enter, i did and it goes back to the Menu before

If I choose "Find GRUB bootloaders" appears :

(hdo,msdos1) : antiX-Live-usb
(hdo,msdos1) : rootantiX19

then it asks me to press "e" to edit boot parameters and appears :

if ... (with some sort of command line to execute) that I really don't have idea what means

then it asks to press ctrl-x to boot, that I did. But then it goes to a GNU GRUB Menu that shows :

"Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported. For the first word, TAB lists possible command completions. Anywhere else TAB lists possible device or file completions"

grub> _

i must enter a command line here maybe (maybe the one shown before that I can't paste here)

What should I do here please ?

thanks for replying

Lluga
 

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Anyway, i also didn't install GRUB. I took out the option to see if worked. It doesn't.
I did tell you to use the defaults, didn't I? Although, grub may not be necessary, I always install it since I always use the defaults, and it always works; system installs and boots properly without any issues.

The question is that I don't know exactly how to use this tool "GRUB Rescue", in order to repair the installation
I never used it cause I never had the need. Maybe watching here might help


Otherwise, you might have to reinstall your system and use the defaults this time; install grub.
 
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