Saying "farewell" to Pinta

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Seeing the news about Pinta 3.1, I thought I should warn you about how GNOME efed up a bunch of image editors (Pinta included) and made it irreversible.

I just said "farewell" to Pinta, after nearly 10 years of using it. Because Pinta uses gdk-pixbuf2 which in turn uses glycin for image processing and guess what? When the image editor doesn't specify compression level (especially for PNG format), by default glycin doesn't compress anything. Thus small files (1000x800) that 3 years ago would have become 800 bytes with maximum compression (level 9), now they'll become 4-5 KiB. If that's happening to small files with a few colors, imagine what will happen with a 4-5 MiB PNG of large dimensions.

It's even worse with JPG/JPEG because the default quality used to be 100%, whereas now it's less than 40%.

And no, you can't remove glycin or gdk-pixbuf2, nor downgrade either one. Gnome's "fatherless people" (you know what word I'm replacing and they deserve it) have taken care of both being so deeply dependent on everything and vice versa, that it's easier to just change the whole desktop (Plasma or LXQt), or change to another program, like Krita. Krita and all KDE/Qt programs use libpng and libjpeg-turbo, instead of glycin, thus the files are STILL 5 times smaller. For now at least. Let's hope that Qt will continue to use libpng.

P.S. I can't help but wonder if this ruining was done on purpose...
 


Today I retired KolourPaint as well. :D It turned out Krita had everything both Pinta and KolourPaint offered and then some. Slightly different than both but not too different, so it won't be hard to get used to Krita. Plus Krita offers text alignment - something people have been begging for in KolourPaint for years but the devs kept finding excuses not to do it.
For 10 years I've been using Krita's icon to replace KolourPaint's icon (bc KP's icon was ugly). Now program and icon are back together. :D
 
P.S. I can't help but wonder if this ruining was done on purpose...
It may very well have.:(
Unfortunately we don't know the motives in the ones mind that made it this way.

Often wrong thinking causes right things and practices to go wrong. (see my signature)

--Perhaps compiling those same libraries <or> other lib's and engines in a 'custom recompile build' could solve this issue?--
That is if you want to pursue effort into it as compiling from src isn't everyone's cup of tea.

Those lib's and engines: gtk based are written in C#.
I don't know C otherwise I'd help, I'm sorry.
 
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Another thought:-

If Krita fails you, which I don't for-see that it will, you can always give GIMP a shot.
I've used GIMP for years and have had complete success in the process of managing text and images of all sorts.

The manual is in the link below.
Here's wishing you the best in your new endevours with Krita.

Have a nice weekend!

Alex
 
Another thought:-

If Krita fails you, which I don't for-see that it will, you can always give GIMP a shot.
I've used GIMP for years and have had complete success in the process of managing text and images of all sorts.

The manual is in the link below.
Here's wishing you the best in your new endevours with Krita.

Have a nice weekend!

Alex
I already tried GIMP - several times, actually. Feels like a FOSS version of Photoshop and requires 5 PhD's just to edit an image.
Krita can fail me only if they start using gdk-pixbuf2/glycin as well, but these two packages are Gnome's ™, whereas Krita was written with the Qt toolkit which means I'm safe from these two Gnome curses.

As for the manual - thanks, but I prefer to find out things on my own. I learn things better that way.
 
I already tried GIMP - several times, actually. Feels like a FOSS version of Photoshop and requires 5 PhD's just to edit an image.
Krita can fail me only if they start using gdk-pixbuf2/glycin as well, but these two packages are Gnome's ™, whereas Krita was written with the Qt toolkit which means I'm safe from these two Gnome curses.

As for the manual - thanks, but I prefer to find out things on my own. I learn things better that way.
I get it, it has taken me years to get really good with GIMP.
Do you foresee gdk-pixbuf2/glycin suddenly becoming incorporated in the future?

QT is now 5 or 6?
 
I'm still using Pinta 2.x and as other's have found GIMP can be frustrating doing even the most simple things. I still have not gotten use to Krita's UI and until I cannot use Pinta any longer it will stay unused.
 
I'm still using Pinta 2.x and as other's have found GIMP can be frustrating doing even the most simple things. I still have not gotten use to Krita's UI and until I cannot use Pinta any longer it will stay unused.
Editing an image in GIMP isn't rocket science.

Once a image is open in GIMP you simply click Image and in the drop down window select "scale image".
Then type in the window any size that you want and click scale. Done.

Changing the image from .png to .jpg is fairly easy as well.

I had to invest some time in learning how the program works and well, it paid off.
 
I already tried GIMP - several times, actually. Feels like a FOSS version of Photoshop and requires 5 PhD's just to edit an image.
You so easily dismiss one of the top quality software FOSS has to offer, and only because you find it hard to use.

It's not something you'd expect from a long time Linux user, especially an Arch user should be happy about versatile Swiss knife programs like GIMP.
 
You so easily dismiss one of the top quality software FOSS has to offer, and only because you find it hard to use.

It's not something you'd expect from a long time Linux user, especially an Arch user should be happy about versatile Swiss knife programs like GIMP.
Considering both Krita and Pinta can do the same things and a lot easier at that, I don't see why I should use GIMP.
But I found a way to isolate Pinta and Kolourpaint from the system and make them completely standalone (they're not in /usr, so even if GTK15/QT18 are released, they'll still work just fine), so soon I'll be using all three - Pinta, Kolourpaint and Krita. Krita has some downsides that the other two don't have.
 
Getting to know GIMP will increase / sharpen your skills.
Just a suggestion, soldier on:-
 


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