why? because if you do not try them out while we are giving you your ideas, then this entire thread is a waste of time. You must try these out to see. There comes a time when talk is useless and you must take action. This is that time. I have not heard of you trying any of these recently. We need to know what works and what you are doing. If all you do is sit and read posts and not attempting to do anything then we are all wasting time here. If you are trying these as we are posting then please let us know the results. Otherwise please try some of the suggestions.
Lightest Linux distros, easy for noob, with virtual winOS?
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Well, that's a very strange statement to make. I'm posting this from the current FF 115.0.3 ESR.....and I'm in the middle of watching Star Trek : Voyager on NetFlix. I was also watching stuff on YouTube less than an hour ago.....
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Firefox is not normally my 'go-to' browser - I much prefer Chromium and the various 'clones' - but I keep both 'mainline' and 'ESR' FF around for the hell of it. And TBH, it makes very little difference to me what I use; it's getting so FF, say, and Chrome are interchangeable these days.....there's very little to choose between them.
Firefox is finally becoming what it could have been years ago, were it not for all the arguing, back-stabbing & prima donnas in the Mozilla camp. The only reason I keep around a dozen browsers on my system is quite simple; I re-package all of these into self-contained 'portable' builds for the Puppy community (with which I've had a fair bit of assistance from other Puppians over the last few years).
Mike.
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Beside, you not even reading my specific questions under my particular circumstances - where only you are wasting you're and my time. Additional my extensive background on forums:
15 years ago I had a walking-disability from PAD - from a 80% stenosis at my main abdominal aorta bifurication - 3-400 meter of walking distance only, when worst. Did everything the doc said is how it got that worse.
I joined a number of alternative health forums, I started to ask beginners question, and soon very gladly were able to answer such questions myself. And if mistaken - corrected, learnt something new to me from such discussions. On a long-term mission impossible to gain my health back again. So I grew manytimes to a frequent poster on those forums.
After the first year I already could walk up to an hour again. Increasing further. 3th year had a setback with chronic bronchitis for 1 year, diagnosed as COPD afterwards, but assymptomatic since.
Improving again, only the 7th year I experienced remission from the walking disabilty and got the disabled cancelled by a government agency. But still suffering secondary ME/CFS symptoms of constant PEMs, which went in remission the 10th year.
So remissions of 3 chronic conditions in the time of 10 years, considered mercylessly progressing and non-reversible by standard of care. Alledgedly was wasting my time?
I strongly disagree. Not that I think your preconceived notions allow you to unterstand the details of this post, and am really wasting my time here too.
I stay strongly by my experience of 15 years as a frequent poster on health forums: discussing even the dullest beginners questions is how learning starts, answering oneself is how that learning is corrected if neccessary, or consolitated. Of course implemented step by step as possible along the way of years too. To loose health to chronic conditions takes decades too, and is never resolved in 3 days. The best way to learn, as in my case, as if one's life depends on it.
You are of course free to agree to disagree with me, your choice. Your differing perspective was noted already days ago, so also your choice to continue with your standard answer to very different and specific questions in this my first thread here.
Any kind of soft force in manipulating to your framework of unterstanding doesn't work or lacks appreciation of the others life-experiences and understanding.
Sound rational reasoning could. But not depreciation only, you prefer to, showing repeatedly your not even read my specific questions and circumstances.
Peace, lets agree to disagree. Missions impossible seem only impossible to those not trying, but not me.
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I've always used Firefox and Firefox ESR both have always worked for what I do.Firefox is not normally my 'go-to' browser - I much prefer Chromium and the various 'clones' - but I keep both 'mainline' and 'ESR' FF around for the hell of it. And TBH, it makes very little difference to me what I use; it's getting so FF, say, and Chrome are interchangeable these days.....there's very little to choose between them.
Firefox is finally becoming what it could have been years ago, were it not for all the arguing, back-stabbing & prima donnas in the Mozilla camp.
Mike.
Although never have been 100% perfect neither has any other browser I've used.
I use Chromium also and it works for what I do.
I just don't like Google Chrome.
I do lower myself to use Google Chrome on my Android cellphone.
I don't do credit card purchasing or other personal information on any cellphone or tablet,
If that makes me sound paranoid then I may be paranoid.
I have legal medical marijuana gummies for that.
The mini PC arrived. As did the touchdisplay and new keyboard yesterday. As said before, today and tomorow I have to work 2 nightshifts, so not really much time now.
I did run up the mini PC, came with windows 11, and surprised than without internet there isn't much it can do. Just wordpad. And that with 30 GB of a new installation.
Run into protracting difficulties of connectin WLAN, then it worked, then only erratic. So with the short time I decided, nothing to loose when I quickly try Q4OS, installed under Windows.
Long story short, after installation I was asked for a reboot. And now black screen with CLI - I call machine language.
The last unterline keeps blinking. But sadly, my keyboard isn't recognized anymore. So typing 'help' I can't anymore.
So far about rarely having an encounter with a commant line in Linux anymore
Have I just distroyed my new Windows11 mini PC with my first attempt to install Linux. Or is there anything I can do now with this screen to revert it to a usable state?
I did run up the mini PC, came with windows 11, and surprised than without internet there isn't much it can do. Just wordpad. And that with 30 GB of a new installation.
Run into protracting difficulties of connectin WLAN, then it worked, then only erratic. So with the short time I decided, nothing to loose when I quickly try Q4OS, installed under Windows.
Long story short, after installation I was asked for a reboot. And now black screen with CLI - I call machine language.
Code:
Free initranfs and switch to another root fs:
chroot fo NEW_Root, delete all in /, move NEW_Root to /,
execut NEW_INIT. PID must be 1. NEW_ROOT must be a mountpoint.
-c DEV Reopen stdio to DEV after switch
-d CAPS Drop capabilities
-n Dry run
BusyBox v1.30.1 (Debian 1:1.30.1-6+b3) multi-call binary.
Usage: run-init [-d CAP, CAP...] [-n] [-c CONSOLE_DEV] NEW_ROOT NEW_INIT [ARGS]
Free initramfs and swithch to another root fs:
chroot to NEW-ROOT, delete all in /, move NEW_ROOT to /,
execute NEW_INIT. PID must be 1.NEW_ROOT must be a moundpoint.
-c DEV Reopen stdio to DEV after switch
-d CAPS Drop capabilities
-n Dry run
BusyBox v1.30.1 (Debian 1:1.30.1-6+b3) multi-call binary.
Usage: run-init [-d CAP, CAP...] [-n] [-c CONSOLE_DEV] NEW_ROOT NEW_INIT [ARGS]
Free initramfs and swithch to another root fs:
chroot to NEW-ROOT,
delete all in /, move NEW_ROOT to /,
execute NEW_INIT. PID must be 1.NEW_ROOT must be a moundpoint.
-c DEV Reopen stdio to DEV after switch
-d CAPS Drop capabilities
-n Dry run
No init found. Try passing init= bootary.
BusyBox v1.30.1 (Debian 1:1.30.1-6+b3) build-in shell (ash)
Enter 'help' for a list of build-in commands.
(initramfs) _The last unterline keeps blinking. But sadly, my keyboard isn't recognized anymore. So typing 'help' I can't anymore.
So far about rarely having an encounter with a commant line in Linux anymore
Have I just distroyed my new Windows11 mini PC with my first attempt to install Linux. Or is there anything I can do now with this screen to revert it to a usable state?
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Brickwizard
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Not sure what you mean. Did you just try running 4QOS in the live mode ? if so, did everything work? Did you install it in a VM? Did you install to hard-drive without testing first?
OK back to basics, if you installed direct to hard-drive you did remember to disable both windows quick-start [fast boot] and safe boot then re-booted before you started?, did you remove the installation medium [usb] when you finished and re-booted to finalise the installation?
The only thing I can think of is turning the power off. And restart the computer. But I'm not sure if that could do further damage,
It comes also with a windows installer, as in the video linked to before, and installs it as any other windows program in a directory of windows. After installation and a reboot it ended in above black screen in CLI, with keyport no more working. So nothing I could change or switch from that screen.
No usb installation medium. Just a downloaded installer from the main site, which downloads further files and then starts the installation.
Brickwizard
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it should be OK, [it was always the first fix for broken windows ]
powering off shouldn't affect your windows install if that's part of your worry. you could try the
shutdown -t 0
command, but the place you are in might not have access to that command. if not, powering off should at least get you back to a place where you can try to boot windows again.
editing to add: got the command wrong. added correction. and after some more searching, it seems like
link 1 for reboot: https://www.commandlinux.com/man-page/man1/busybox.1.html
link 2 for both: https://askubuntu.com/a/817660
shutdown +0command, but the place you are in might not have access to that command. if not, powering off should at least get you back to a place where you can try to boot windows again.
editing to add: got the command wrong. added correction. and after some more searching, it seems like
reboot or exit might have been worth a try.link 1 for reboot: https://www.commandlinux.com/man-page/man1/busybox.1.html
link 2 for both: https://askubuntu.com/a/817660
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Brickwizard
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ok this from the distribution documentation [did you read it] "Once finished, the system is fully set up and ready to run either Windows or Q4OS as selected from the boot menu."
Short boot menu is found by tickling the appropriate key for your machine as you switch on
Short boot menu is found by tickling the appropriate key for your machine as you switch on
Uff back to windows, first completing an installation. What a relieve. Just about to restart into the boot menu..
now in the uefi boot menu, nothing changed, no mention of the distro to choose from, just the usual order: hard disk: Wind...
NVME, CD, SD, USB and Network. By the way, I forgot how to change that order, which keys to use for that?
now in the uefi boot menu, nothing changed, no mention of the distro to choose from, just the usual order: hard disk: Wind...
NVME, CD, SD, USB and Network. By the way, I forgot how to change that order, which keys to use for that?
it sounds like there may be an issue with your q4os install, but from: https://q4os.org/dqa014.html#boome
From within the bios it didn't work. F7 did finaly work, where one could enter bios with del. Arrived at the exact same black screen with the same code. Actually read that documentation, but with my turmoil already completely forgot.
So somthing went wrong with the installation. Now I running out of time and have to get ready to go to work. Will try tomorow again, to deinstall and install anew.
Thanks all for your timely help.
So somthing went wrong with the installation. Now I running out of time and have to get ready to go to work. Will try tomorow again, to deinstall and install anew.
Thanks all for your timely help.
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xlbooyahlx
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After the F8 prompt choose "Boot Option", or "Boot Menu" not bios. You should have a choice what to boot. It's a janky way to boot linux, but it's what's clearly stated in their documentation here
It's because you chose to do a windows installation instead of what has been repeatedly suggested to you in this thread, which is a live pendrive test first to see if you like that particular version of linux before actually installing one. No judgement, just stating what others have stated numerous times in this thread.
https://q4os.org/dqa014.html#boome
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It actually lets you choose from one screen Windows, Q4OS or Bios.
But as said the install was faulty, probably because of the erratic WLAN during download. I'll try at my workplace, which has such a strong WLAN, I can't sleep.
I really don't understand why one always has to repeatedly defend one's own choices taken with one's own responisbilty, here and already explained repeatedly the reasons why again and again.
In this case I would only have the time during next week, and that really not plenty. Therefore I choose what could be done now, lightweight, just as windows installer, which allegdely can be deinstalled just as any other windows installer.
Honestly, I really don't care as much if what is recommended is not what I specificly asked for. I asked which lightweight distro is easy and allow's Window virtualization. From the answer I gathered: there is no really lightweight distro with vitualization out of the box. But alledgedly easy enough to install nowaday without CLI.
Because of my time restraint this weekend I only had the time for a quick window-installer of Q4OS, or wait an other few days for finding the time for longer experimentation with more distros.
And other as you portray it now, Q4OS was actually full-filling all my other requirements I asked for. And as well recommented by a member here in the thread.
And it might just turn out the perfect fit, who knows without trying.
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