Can't detect my nvme SSD on Linux mint edge boot usb

2. incorporates some calendar options, and short-term options with other distros, based on your

banana789 said:
I would prefer mint since it is very user friendly and I heard the dev is really good but I'm not sure
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End of April (25th, it is said), Ubuntu will be releasing Ubuntu 24.04 LTS (long term support). It will have a kernel of something higher than 6.5 that may accommodate the Lexar.

Following that, Linux Mint will kick into gear to release its LM 22, usually released around end of June, and partly based on Ubuntu 24.04 so it will likewise have a newer kernel.

Obviously you don't want to wait that long, so consider below.

Cinnamon is the flagship DE (Desktop Environment) developed by Linux Mint, but also adopted by a number of other distros.

Ubuntu have in its Community Spins an Ubuntu Cinnamon, currently on 23.10, released in October and reaches EOL (end of life) in July. I have it, it's quite good, and it will be available to update to 24.04 version some days or weeks after 25 April.

You could download and try that on a stick and see (it is currently on around kernel 6.5) if it recognises the Lexar.
 


check for a hidden partition at the beginning of the SSD, if there is one it will stop linux installing
 
After the "radical" proposal in post #4, below is another. This one is based on getting a very recent kernel which may recognise the nvme disk.

First, out of interest, asking some online AI the question "which linux kernel version supports the lexar nm790 nvme disk?" produced the following responses

AI copilot wrote: "kernel version of 6.5.5 or higher" is okay
AI perplexity wrote: "One user reported successfully using the Lexar NM790 4TB SSD with the 6.6.2 kernel in openSUSE Tumbleweed"
AI gemini wrote: "kernel version (6.5rc2 or later)"
AI ChatGPT had no recommendation.

The other "radical" proposal is as follows:
Move the MS installation to the big disk as suggested in post #4.
Install on the small disk, a rolling release e.g. arch, suse tumbleweed, or even debian 12 which can be upgraded to the sid version which currently runs a 6.7 version kernel.
Whichever distribution you choose (and there are other rolling releases), upgrade the distro to the latest kernel which will very likely be in 6.7 range.
Check to see if that kernel sees the nvme disk.

If that kernel sees the disk, then you could use the system's status quo, even though it's not your preferred option, but simply await another distro of your choice to catch up with the kernel version that works. Have grub installed on the linux disk to boot either installation.

It's a fair bit of work to do, and there's no certainty that I can find at present online to say that the later kernel will indeed run that particular lexar disk. The whole process though is reversible, though I can't say how the MS installation would cope.

The problem with the live installation disks of most distros is that they have less than current kernels which is unhelpful in this case, but I haven't checked any recently enough to say more.

Another possible addition or modification to the proposal above is to partition the larger disk into at least two partitions, one for MS, and the other free space. The advantage of this arrangement is that you could install the linux distro of your choice on the smaller disk instead of a rolling release, and just wait for the distro to upgrade over time until it provides a kernel that can see the lexar disk. When that occurs, and the nvme disk becomes visible, you can format, configure and mount the previously free partition into the linux system. It will then provide that extra capacity that you mentioned you preferred for the linux installation.
 
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osprey said:
...suse tumbleweed...
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I don't see that as a viable option, as openSUSE do not support a Live test environment, unless I am missing something?
 
wizardfromoz said:
2. incorporates some calendar options, and short-term options with other distros, based on your




End of April (25th, it is said), Ubuntu will be releasing Ubuntu 24.04 LTS (long term support). It will have a kernel of something higher than 6.5 that may accommodate the Lexar.

Following that, Linux Mint will kick into gear to release its LM 22, usually released around end of June, and partly based on Ubuntu 24.04 so it will likewise have a newer kernel.

Obviously you don't want to wait that long, so consider below.

Cinnamon is the flagship DE (Desktop Environment) developed by Linux Mint, but also adopted by a number of other distros.

Ubuntu have in its Community Spins an Ubuntu Cinnamon, currently on 23.10, released in October and reaches EOL (end of life) in July. I have it, it's quite good, and it will be available to update to 24.04 version some days or weeks after 25 April.

You could download and try that on a stick and see (it is currently on around kernel 6.5) if it recognises the Lexar.
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Downloading Ubuntu cinnamon, will test and report back
 
osprey said:
After the "radical" proposal in post #4, below is another. This one is based on getting a very recent kernel which may recognise the nvme disk.

First, out of interest, asking some online AI the question "which linux kernel version supports the lexar nm790 nvme disk?" produced the following responses

AI copilot wrote: "kernel version of 6.5.5 or higher" is okay
AI perplexity wrote: "One user reported successfully using the Lexar NM790 4TB SSD with the 6.6.2 kernel in openSUSE Tumbleweed"
AI gemini wrote: "kernel version (6.5rc2 or later)"
AI ChatGPT had no recommendation.

The other "radical" proposal is as follows:
Move the MS installation to the big disk as suggested in post #4.
Install on the small disk, a rolling release e.g. arch, suse tumbleweed, or even debian 12 which can be upgraded to the sid version which currently runs a 6.7 version kernel.
Whichever distribution you choose (and there are other rolling releases), upgrade the distro to the latest kernel which will very likely be in 6.7 range.
Check to see if that kernel sees the nvme disk.

If that kernel sees the disk, then you could use the system's status quo, even though it's not your preferred option, but simply await another distro of your choice to catch up with the kernel version that works. Have grub installed on the linux disk to boot either installation.

It's a fair bit of work to do, and there's no certainty that I can find at present online to say that the later kernel will indeed run that particular lexar disk. The whole process though is reversible, though I can't say how the MS installation would cope.

The problem with the live installation disks of most distros is that they have less than current kernels which is unhelpful in this case, but I haven't checked any recently enough to say more.

Another possible addition or modification to the proposal above is to partition the larger disk into at least two partitions, one for MS, and the other free space. The advantage of this arrangement is that you could install the linux distro of your choice on the smaller disk instead of a rolling release, and just wait for the distro to upgrade over time until it provides a kernel that can see the lexar disk. When that occurs, and the nvme disk becomes visible, you can format, configure and mount the previously free partition into the linux system. It will then provide that extra capacity that you mentioned you preferred for the linux installation.
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Uhh... This is a lot.. I'm just a beginner
 
Just absorb what you can and fire away with questions.

I have to leave for my evening meal in Australia in 15 minutes, but let us know with the Ubuntu Cinnamon when you can.

What friend @osprey was possibly trying to say with

osprey said:
The other "radical" proposal is as follows:
Move the MS installation to the big disk as suggested in post #4.
Install on the small disk, a rolling release e.g. arch, suse tumbleweed, or even debian 12 which can be upgraded to the sid version which currently runs a 6.7 version kernel.
Whichever distribution you choose (and there are other rolling releases), upgrade the distro to the latest kernel which will very likely be in 6.7 range.
Check to see if that kernel sees the nvme disk.
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relies on the distro chosen having a Live Mode, whereby you can boot to the desktop, and see if it recognises your Lexar, before installing.
 
That is the same process as I was looking at with Ubuntu Cinnamon 23.10.
 
wizardfromoz said:
Just absorb what you can and fire away with questions.

I have to leave for my evening meal in Australia in 15 minutes, but let us know with the Ubuntu Cinnamon when you can.

What friend @osprey was possibly trying to say with



relies on the distro chosen having a Live Mode, whereby you can boot to the desktop, and see if it recognises your Lexar, before installing.
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The proposal was to actually install from an installation or a live disk, and then to upgrade to a later kernel. The reason for the installation was to get the later kernel by upgrading after installation since the kernels in the installation media, (the installation disk or the live disk) are likely not to have a recent enough kernel to see the nvme disk. I hope that makes it clearer.

To go down this sort of path is a bit of work and involves a bit of knowledge and might simply be an unattractive proposition for the OP. It's just a possible option I think.
 
Nah, I must be getting tired, lol.

My thought is - if he can't see the Lexar from the Live scenario, how can he install the distro to it, to go and get a newer kernel?
 
Gotta get on my magic carpet and fly - these pork chops won't cook themselves.

Nite all.
 
wizardfromoz said:
Nah, I must be getting tired, lol.

My thought is - if he can't see the Lexar from the Live scenario, how can he install the distro to it, to go and get a newer kernel?
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The installation was proposed to be to the smaller disk that the MS installation was on, which could be seen by linux because it's the default disk in the thinkpad. Linux couldn't see the new lexar disk that the OP bought, so the proposal involved moving the MS installation to the larger disk which MS could see. Moving MS would have to be done first, which was the first step mentioned in post #23.
 
wizardfromoz said:
Just absorb what you can and fire away with questions.

I have to leave for my evening meal in Australia in 15 minutes, but let us know with the Ubuntu Cinnamon when you can.

What friend @osprey was possibly trying to say with



relies on the distro chosen having a Live Mode, whereby you can boot to the desktop, and see if it recognises your Lexar, before installing.
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So I tried it and no luck .. maybe I'm doing something wrong with the SSD?? Idk.. just seems useless right now sadly
 
wizardfromoz said:
Just absorb what you can and fire away with questions.

I have to leave for my evening meal in Australia in 15 minutes, but let us know with the Ubuntu Cinnamon when you can.

What friend @osprey was possibly trying to say with



relies on the distro chosen having a Live Mode, whereby you can boot to the desktop, and see if it recognises your Lexar, before installing.
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So I tried it and no luck .. maybe I'm doing something
 
Ok so I think I might have to do what you guys are saying. Is it possible to clone windows to my 1tb drive and then install Linux on the 500gb drive .. then when Linux mint does end up supporting this drive switch the drives again ?
 
banana789 said:
So I tried it and no luck .. maybe I'm doing something wrong with the SSD?? Idk.. just seems useless right now sadly
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@banana789, the problem appears to be the lack of a suitable driver in the kernels which you've tried. It looks like you've tried ubuntu from post #25. If you've booted up the live disk and run a program like gparted and it's failed to see the larger disk, you do not appear to be doing anything wrong :)
 
osprey said:
@banana789, the problem appears to be the lack of a suitable driver in the kernels which you've tried. It looks like you've tried ubuntu from post #25. If you've booted up the live disk and run a program like gparted and it's failed to see the larger disk, you do not appear to be doing anything wron
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Sadly yea, gparted couldn't find anything
 
banana789 said:
Ok so I think I might have to do what you guys are saying. Is it possible to clone windows to my 1tb drive and then install Linux on the 500gb drive .. then when Linux mint does end up supporting this drive switch the drives again ?
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This is entirely possible.

I'd like to wait til @wizardfromoz returns and offers his view. I've tried to clarify my own proposal on post #33, but that is not quite what you are proposing. Rather you are going with an earlier suggestion from post #4 and from post #19.

Your suggestion in the above quote from post #36 will require some specialist knowledge of MS that I lack. The linux side of things would however be very straight forward.
 
osprey said:
This is entirely possible.

I'd like to wait til @wizardfromoz returns and offers his view. I've tried to clarify my own proposal on post #33, but that is not quite what you are proposing. Rather you are going with an earlier suggestion from post #4 and from post #19.

Your suggestion in the above quote from post #36 will require some specialist knowledge of MS that I lack. The linux side of things would however be very straight forward.
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Of course, I'm only worried because I most likely won't be able to get another SSD and be stuck with the lexar... And what if mint never gets the drive to work
 
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