New to the whole Linux scene, have heard really great things figured I'd maybe give it a crack?

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Hello, I'm using an HP Pavillion AW15038E. Currently its barely running Windows 11 Insider Preview Version 260521. I say running but really its Snail, pace at this point. I am hoping and praying someone here can fill me in on Linux, how to successfully eliminate system bloat considering this poor laptop is only equipped with 8GB of DDR4 currently only runs 3.9 of those 8 GB though!
 


Hello @KoolBeansssBro
Welcome to the Linux.org forum, enjoy!
Best thing to do is download and burn a live version of Linux. I suggest trying Mint first. See how it runs on that machine.
 
Welcome, @KoolBeansssBro.

The whole thing is highly subjective, IMHO.

I have here a 6C/12T 8th-gen Intel Corei7-8700, 32GB DDR4, a discrete GeForce GT 1030 GPU and around 10 TB of storage.

I could run literally any distro I want.....but by choice, I run a featherweight distro called 'Puppy' Linux. Not because I'm trying to maximize resource availability or anything like that, but for the simple reason that I started using Puppy over 13 years ago when I WAS stuck with very old, limited-resource hardware.....and by now, I know her inside-out.

She does everything I want from her.....and THEN some.

Many folks run low-to-average hardware and a mainstream distro with their relatively heavy DEs. Puppy runs entirely in RAM for the session, so despite no NVMe SSD she'll still fly, even on elderly machines.

IMHO, regardless of hardware availability, my feeling is that most people could benefit from running more lightweight distros.....because they simply leave more of your resources alone for YOUR use (whatever that may be). Unfortunately, most would-be Linux users have been weaned on Windows, and expect the same performance/behaviour when they come to Linux (including all the 'eye-candy').

(Especially the gamers.....who expect exactly the same performance & ease-of-use from ultra-heavy, AAA+ titles.....and are frequently disappointed when things don't work as they do under Windows. Linux has made HUGE strides towards being a drop-in replacement; for many of us on this side of the fence, it already is.....but it still has a way to go to literally replace Windows without the user noticing any difference.)

The only solution here is for you to put the time in, and try out a bunch of distros in 'Live' mode. Only this way will you get a realistic idea of how they actually run.

We're always here to help if you get stuck at any stage of the process.


Mike. ;)
 
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how to successfully eliminate system bloat
Apologies for the double post.

You may consider running a distribution with XFCE, Openbox, or Fluxbox. For Fluxbox, you might consider trying MX Linux's Fluxbox, as they've done a good job with it. I recommend Debian for XFCE. For Openbox, well... usually I install & configure that myself, so if you're new I honestly couldn't recommend a distribution with Openbox, though they exist.

Some will recommend using Linux Mint and that's fine, though I want nothing to do with Ubuntu so you could try their Debian Edition. I recommend not choosing Ubuntu because of snaps and other reasons which I won't get into here. It's just my preference, coming from someone who started using their distribution when they first appeared on the scene and up until they decided to make some alterations I wasn't kosher with.

You really want to run a lightweight Desktop Environment like XFCE or a Window Manager like Openbox or Fluxbox with that much memory because when you use things like beefy browsers such as Firefox or Chromium, for example, you're going to need all the memory you can get and not waste it on the desktop like Gnome or KDE. Some people recommend the MATE Desktop Environment, though I have limited experience with it.

People may say KDE has comparable memory usage to XFCE. Each distribution is different and may have different programs and services running so it all depends on the distribution. When you're experienced enough you can take something like Debian minimal and build from there so you know exactly what you're getting.

Depending on the amount of free time you have, you could test Gnome, KDE, XFCE and if you're feeling a little brave a distribution with a Window Manager such as Fluxbox or Openbox. Window Managers can be a little rough on the Linux newbie, but you'll thank me with the amount of memory you'll save when you run modern web browsers or venture into something like gaming.

As you advance you can start looking at the services loaded for each distribution and disable or remove the ones which you don't need which may be chewing up memory in the background.

As MikeWalsh recommended, try distributions which have a LiveCD/USB option.

Go nuts and have fun!
 
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@KoolBeansssBro

I tossed EndeavourOS on a low spec mini desktop w/ 4gb ram a few weeks ago (i used to use it as a VOIP solution for my home office but now it's a glorified alarm clock next to my bed) and even with KDE it runs just fine, though it's a bit slow to boot/login. a more minimalist DE would of course use less resources but I dont really care (and KDE is pretty).

I prefer Arch or Arch derivative distros but basically any linux distribution is going to get you to the same spot.
 
Welcome,
as some members have already said Linux is not windows, so don't expect to run all windows programs-so you will be on a learning curve, early Pavilions are not known for speed but reliability for business use, pleas see links below
 


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