Wine questions

[Rob]

Hey there guys,

I have Linux on all of my computers that I use.. work, home, home laptop, etc..

Back in the 'day' (10 or so yrs ago), I had some dual boot machines and had played around a little bit with wine. I never got too involved with it or used it very much, but knew it was there and that it seemed pretty great.

Fast forward to today.

At work I created a windows 7 virtual machine on our xenserver pool so that I can run two things:
1. Citrix XenCenter
2. Kayako desktop

So tell me - back in the day, I thought you needed a dual-boot to run wine because it needed things off the windows partition to work correctly. Is that true? Was that ever true?

Does anyone have any experience with wine and xencenter or kayako desktop? (I know there's a list on the wine site, but looking for some real-ppl feedback).

Thanks! If you don't need a windows partition, I'm going to set it up today

 

[Codypy1]

Hmm I don't believe you do.
I have wine on all 3 of my computers and never once have had a windows partition.

I've got pretty good experience with wine and installing windows games. But not so much with xencenter or kayako desktop.

 

[Rob]

Thanks for the reply Cody.. I just installed it and started messing around. I believe I got xencenter installed, but can't get it to start up. Googling around for some hints

 

[Codypy1]

So I went and downloaded xencenter to see if I could figure out the problem.
I installed it then it wouldn't start either. It kept throwing an error.
I realized I didn't have .net installed on wine.
So I installed it and after that xencenter started up without any problems.

 

[Rob]

Ah, ok - i'll look into how to install .net on wine then.. thanks man

 

[jonathansblog]

you used to be able to point wine at a real system32 directory and get it to use the native dlls over the builtin ones, not sure if you can still do that (or if its even needed any more)

you had to change the config file for wine and do something like

moricons.dll native,builtin
other.dll builtin,native

 

[DevynCJohnson]

I have tried WINE. It works well, but it has its limitations. For example, some of the newer Windows applications will not run on WINE.
A true Linux lover is allergic to Windows applications.

 

[grim76]

Wine is not too bad. Unfortunately I am required to run Windows for work due to corporate policies.

When I was at my previous employer they did not care what I ran. I installed Linux on my machine and then built a Windows 7 VM on it to use for when I needed the windows applications. I know that I had some interface problems with some applications here and there when running through wine.

 

[SLW210]

If a dude in a Tux costume walks into this company and kills the boss for making such a policy for Microsuck products, it was not me.

That kind of crap is uncalled for, people have to make a living, MS/Windows has a few things that Linux has no replacement for, people like YOU need to grow up.

I'll leave my comment then I'll be done with this forum.

You might try Crossover from Codeweavers, not free, but gets good reviews for running Windows programs on Linux and MAC.

 

[DevynCJohnson]

As far as Windows vs Linux, if someone wants a particular program like Microsuck Office, true they must use Windows. But if they want a office suite, Linux is still fine to use. As long as a company or individual does not want a specific program, Linux can work very well for individuals and companies.

 

[Rob]

That kind of crap is uncalled for, people have to make a living, MS/Windows has a few things that Linux has no replacement for, people like YOU need to grow up.

I'll leave my comment then I'll be done with this forum.

Yeah, I agree.. let's keep it professional please.

 

[KenJackson]

I realized I didn't have .net installed on wine.

You can install your choice of .net versions and a lot of other stuff by using WineTricks. It's a huge shell script that fetches the dlls or applications you select, directly from Microsoft's website and installs them.

 

[Jeremy]

I have tried WINE. It works well, but it has its limitations. For example, some of the newer Windows applications will not run on WINE.
A true Linux lover is allergic to Windows applications.

An Operating System is a tool, a true IT professional will recognize this and use what the situation dictates.

 

[Squaw Pendragon]

I love wine and bread dipped in virgin olive oil. Wine is NOT a windows alternative. It is still a hack and cannot run 100% of all the software out there. I could not get v1.7.8 to run fraps or DivX player. Why? I like to convert things using DivX 10 and H.264

 

[KenJackson]

Wine is NOT a windows alternative. It is still a hack and cannot run 100% of all the software out there.

Wine is a work in progress. It will never run 100% of the software out there, just as recent Windows versions can't run 100% of Windows software for earlier versions. But it runs some Windows apps perfectly and many others Windows apps good enough to be useful. Therefore it is an alternative for some people.

Every couple weeks or so I do a "git pull" to get the latest wine source code updates and then I rebuild it. I'm amazed at the amount of work that continues to be done to bring more and more people into the fold of those who can use Wine for all their Windows needs.

I salute all wine (and ReactOS) developers!