Wine and bottles not working in pop os

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Wine just doesnt work at all, I mean you cant even open it. Doesnt even show up in the applications menu. Then Bottles, you install it, open it, try to create a bottle, then sod all happens, you cant even close it.

Pop Os is on a laptop, software I am trying to run in Wine/bottles is known as Zbrush, very specialised 3D software. I want to point out I am new to Linux.
 
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Never had much luck with bottles either. Used to use wine /Playonlinux and it worked well until the last round of releases.
I don't use PopOS so can't be of much help to you. But a search for Bottles on ubuntu may result in some good advice since PoP is basically Ubuntu redone.
 
Wine just doesnt work at all, I mean you cant even open it. Doesnt even show up in the applications menu. Then Bottles, you install it, open it, try to create a bottle, then sod all happens, you cant even close it.
Wine doesn't have a gui other than winetricks and winecfg, it's not supposed to show in the applications menu usually. If you want to use barebones vanilla wine, you can use the command wine:
wine /path/to/program.exe
 
Cool story.
 
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Wine just doesnt work at all, I mean you cant even open it. Doesnt even show up in the applications menu. Then Bottles, you install it, open it, try to create a bottle, then sod all happens, you cant even close it.
wine and bottles are to run windows programs in linux. It is not a good idea for many reason. I have found native linux alternatives that are better than any windows version for every program in windows except i-tunes and garmin express. why don't you tell us what you are trying to run in wine/bottles and let us tell you the linux native alternative. That way you will not need wine.
 
sometimes you have to put single quotes around your filepath...

as in

wine '/path/to/program.exe'
 
wine and bottles are to run windows programs in linux. It is not a good idea for many reason. I have found native linux alternatives that are better than any windows version for every program in windows except i-tunes and garmin express. why don't you tell us what you are trying to run in wine/bottles and let us tell you the linux native alternative. That way you will not need wine.
While I agree with you to find Linux alternatives, the software I want to use is special and I just dont want to part with it. I am already dual booting my computer, but the challage is I want to get as far away from Windows as possible and their irritating obsession with A.I which I want nothing to do with. I am only keeping the dual boot becauseI know that at some point I will work on something where someone has used windows.

on that note I think if we put enough cats together, it would outdo the A.I on every level.
 
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Cool story.
You didn't actually ask a question and didn't really put much effort into your topic, it being one sentence. It could be useful to share what software you are trying to install. You can try running bottles from the command-line and then see if you get any errors or output that says something meaningful. I installed PopOS in a vm an installed Bottles as well and I was able to create a bottle successfully. Maybe also add some screenshots of what you are seeing because sometimes what people describe in words is different from what is actually the problem.
 
You didn't actually ask a question and didn't really put much effort into your topic, it being one sentence. It could be useful to share what software you are trying to install. You can try running bottles from the command-line and then see if you get any errors or output that says something meaningful. I installed PopOS in a vm an installed Bottles as well and I was able to create a bottle successfully. Maybe also add some screenshots of what you are seeing because sometimes what people describe in words is different from what is actually the problem.
I am trying to put in Wine Zbrush, very specialised 3D sculpting softwre. Pop OS is on baremetal as it refused to install properly on a VM, I dont know what i did or didnt do. I wanto point out I am also new to linux and have not tried much with the command line
 
I am trying to put in Wine Zbrush, very specialised 3D sculpting softwre. Pop OS is on baremetal as it refused to install properly on a VM, I dont know what i did or didnt do. I wanto point out I am also new to linux and have not tried much with the command line
Zbrush is listed as gold on wine HQ apps. with wine version 5.18 so you might want to give that wine version a try.. easiest way to do that is with Playonlinux it should be in the repositories. With playonlinux you can choose which version of wine you want to use. Good Luck.
 
Zbrush is listed as gold on wine HQ apps. with wine version 5.18 so you might want to give that wine version a try.. easiest way to do that is with Playonlinux it should be in the repositories. With playonlinux you can choose which version of wine you want to use. Good Luck.
Thank you :) will give that a try
 
Zbrush is listed as gold on wine HQ apps. with wine version 5.18 so you might want to give that wine version a try.. easiest way to do that is with Playonlinux it should be in the repositories. With playonlinux you can choose which version of wine you want to use. Good Luck.
I have just downloaded it, opened it, it wont let me open the version you pointed out, so I downloded the latest version, opened it, there a pile of files in there with no file which starts the programme. Is this somthing I need to kick off via the commaned line? I did look at PlayonLinux but the site in currently unreachable, dont know if its blocked from the UK or if theres an issue.
 
I just installed playon linux here and it will not work on the latest verion of ubuntu. Sorry it was worth a try as for wine it make no menu entry. Sorry.
 
I am trying to put in Wine Zbrush, very specialised 3D sculpting softwre.
I went to the vendor's website and it shows that you need an app to install all of their products.
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Apparently they have a Linux version since they support Windows, MacOS and Linux?
 
@Iamgeese :-

As stated above, WINE is NOT an "app" as such. It's essentially a real-time emulation layer, which allows you to run Windows programs under Linux by translating all Windows system-calls to POSIX system calls instead (POSIX is a family of standards that help to maintain interoperability between operating systems within the Unix/Linux family. This is why any application will generally work in the same way across the entire Linux spectrum, within reason).

You don't 'start' WINE by clicking on an executable file. After install, you:-

  • First, run 'winecfg' from the terminal. This tells WINE to create an emulated copy of Windows in a hidden directory in your /home/user one. This is where Windows apps will get installed to.
  • To run a Windows app, you run the following, again in a terminal:-
  • Code:
    wine "/path/to/your/Windows/executable.exe"
The initial 'wine' tells the system to use WINE - if it's present on the system - to run that command. Notice the space between 'wine' and the command.

Once you've established that it works & launches - not all Windows apps will run under all versions of WINE - it's then simple enough to write a wee launch script that will allow you to start it via a single click. As a Windows 'refugee', you will of course be familiar with doing everything via some kind of GUI; the initial use of the terminal is in case any error messages come up. These CAN help to diagnose issues in case your app doesn't run.

To sum up; you 'call' WINE to 'run' the Windows software.

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As I stated above, not all apps will run under WINE. Not yet. The WINE project has been in existence for some 20-odd years at this point in time; with each new release, it gets better & better at running Windows apps.....it's still not perfect, but it's definitely getting there. You must realize, Windows itself is a hugely-complex, constantly-evolving hunk of software, built by people who get paid a salary for what they do. Linux projects, on the other hand, are often built by individuals, in their spare time, pretty much for the love of it......and because you haven't 'paid' anything for the OS, it's pointless complaining, because they don't owe you a dime.....

.....of course, in the case of WINE, it's a sizeable group of people - rather than just one - doing the work for free in their spare time.

Most of us are usually just grateful when things DO run without problems....! :P

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I know for a fact that constructive criticism is always appreciated by Linux devs. Just moaning because your favourite app won't run doesn't usually cut the mustard, so to speak, especially if like many you don't provide any details for them to work with.

Of course, as also stated above, you will always be better off IF you can find a Linux-native version of your favourite application. This is far more likely to run with minimal tweaking.

Sometimes, though, you don't always have that choice. I run a particular photo-editor I became very handy with under Win XP, dating right back to 2007. This photo-editor ships with a highly-unique feature-set. I CAN get the same functionality under Linux.....but to do so requires running a handful of Linux apps all at the same time. In this particular case, for me it's simply more resource-efficient to run WINE for this one app.....because in the long run, it doesn't consume as many.

I'm lucky in that this app runs 100% perfectly under WINE. Not all do.


Mike. ;)
 
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It's essentially a real-time emulation layer

Look out for the pedantic people. "Wine Is Not an Emulator". (It's a compatibility layer.)
 
WINE is NOT an "app" as such. It's essentially a real-time emulation layer
Look out for the pedantic people. "Wine Is Not an Emulator". (It's a compatibility layer.)
Yeah I'm here.

It's not a big issue to confuse compatibility layer for emulator, many people don't care or didn't research the difference.
So true issue is not knowing the difference.

There is beauty in knowing the difference at least for me because I learned about it only some 2 months ago and that made me appreciate existence of Wine more than ever.

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Knowing what emulator and compatibility layers do under the hood is awesome, there are many lengthy articles, sadly I don't recall which one I've read (didn't bookmark), but 3rd term is virtualization, so an article that explains all 3 is needed.

Here is good one:
 
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@KGIII / @CaffeineAddict :-

Aye, you're right, guys. It IS a "compatibility" layer (not emulation). Good catch.

Having been discussing the latter with a few others on the Puppy forums earlier, I kinda had it "on the brain"..... D'ohh! :oops:

I AM aware of the differences.....though one of that guy's first statements doesn't really make sense. A "Windows-only Java application". Huh?? Java, by its very nature IS cross-platform compatible anyway, so I'm not entirely certain WHAT he's referring to there.... o_O

(shrug...)

Nonetheless, it IS a good article. Ta for that.


Mike. ;)
 
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From a novice's view, the end result would be similar.

So, there's that.
 
While I agree with you to find Linux alternatives, the software I want to use is special and I just dont want to part with it. I am already dual booting my computer, but the challage is I want to get as far away from Windows as possible and their irritating obsession with A.I which I want nothing to do with. I am only keeping the dual boot becauseI know that at some point I will work on something where someone has used windows.

on that note I think if we put enough cats together, it would outdo the A.I on every level.
I love the cat comment. You are dual booting which can be another can of worms for the cats. If you are using a desktop system I can make the dual boot fool proof. even so that M$ can't screw it up. Laptop you are on your own because the equipment is not available.
When it comes to have to have windows for something (I have a few of those) I find a virtual machine works for most. dual boot for the rest.

 



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