Will linux.org be joining the metaverse???

[smooth_buddha]

Hey guys would like to ask linux.org what you guys think about the metaverse project???

Do you think you will be using the metaverse as a part of linux.org

Would love to hear your thoughts about meta

 

[DexTheDog]

If you are referencing facebook then no. As cool as having a virtual world sounds having AR running all-around your house is a big privacy concern in my book. As having a camara showing my house open for big company yea that does not sound secure to me.

 

[Brickwizard]

No way will I be using it, I won't allow volentry spy devices in the house either

 

[Matt.m]

I believe Linux community has almost the same opinion about Microsoft and Facebook products. At least it's my personal opinion.

 

[smooth_buddha]

I believe Linux community has almost the same opinion about Microsoft and Facebook products. At least it's my personal opinion.

yeah for me its their privacy and security policies. I think some of it crosses a line, that creepy line lol

 

[Terminal Velocity]

The most Incomprehensible to me is that there are people who will use it. I want to know who are they, what's their background

 

[dos2unix]

Putting on my psycho-analysis hat. ( Warning, I am not a professional psychologist )

I tell you, I'm an old guy. We didn't have the internet until I was in my 30's. We didn't cell phones either.

When it started out, it was all fun and games. But then comercial businesses and information brokers got in the game.
Hackers and viruses are everywhere, it's not as fun as it used to be.

I know a lot of guys with what are in "my opinion" (yes, it's just my opinion) bad habits. Things like smoking, gambling,
drinking too much, taking drugs. They don't have the money for these things really, so they miss car payments, rent payments, house payments.. to support their bad habits. Because they can't stop, they want to, but they can't.

Enter video games and virtual reality. Now of course all video games aren't bad at a base level, but...
For some people... many people... video games and virtual reality are just an escape from "real" reality.
and often, I have to spend money to support my "habit". Cigarettes cost money, booze costs money, drugs cost money,
hookers cost money, (can I say that here?) .. video games cost money.

You have the initial cost of the game, sure... but then you have all the add-ons, and upgrades. It's addictive.
I know people who spends, hundreds,.. ?thousands?? of dollars to get a faster car, a bigger space-ship, a stronger
weapon, a more powerful spell. And just like the alcohol and drug addicts, they're so addicted that they can't stop.
Just like the drug users and alcoholics... it's just money to escape reality. I recently read
about a guy who spent 96 hours straight in virtail reality. Many young kids these days, don't even know the difference anymore.
Lets spend money on avatars, houses, cars,... and none of these things are real. The house isn't real, the food isn't real.
They won't keep you from being hungry or cold. It's just a virtual economy.. with your REAL money.
The wife you are ignoring, the job, the bills, the trouble-some kids you're ignoring, ... they'll all just go away if I spend enough money to escape it for a while.

.. except all those problems are still there, and often worse, when I come back to reality.

Ok, taking my psycho hat back off now... holding up my virtual shield, ready for all the replies now.

...or I will be, soon as I buy this insult-protection spell.

 

[smooth_buddha]

Putting on my psycho-analysis hat. ( Warning, I am not a professional psychologist )

I tell you, I'm an old guy. We didn't have the internet until I was in my 30's. We didn't cell phones either.

When it started out, it was all fun and games. But then comercial businesses and information brokers got in the game.
Hackers and viruses are everywhere, it's not as fun as it used to be.

I know a lot of guys with what are in "my opinion" (yes, it's just my opinion) bad habits. Things like smoking, gambling,
drinking too much, taking drugs. They don't have the money for these things really, so they miss car payments, rent payments, house payments.. to support their bad habits. Because they can't stop, they want to, but they can't.

Enter video games and virtual reality. Now of course all video games aren't bad at a base level, but...
For some people... many people... video games and virtual reality are just an escape from "real" reality.
and often, I have to spend money to support my "habit". Cigarettes cost money, booze costs money, drugs cost money,
hookers cost money, (can I say that here?) .. video games cost money.

You have the initial cost of the game, sure... but then you have all the add-ons, and upgrades. It's addictive.
I know people who spends, hundreds,.. ?thousands?? of dollars to get a faster car, a bigger space-ship, a stronger
weapon, a more powerful spell. And just like the alcohol and drug addicts, they're so addicted that they can't stop.
Just like the drug users and alcoholics... it's just money to escape reality. I recently read
about a guy who spent 96 hours straight in virtail reality. Many young kids these days, don't even know the difference anymore.
Lets spend money on avatars, houses, cars,... and none of these things are real. The house isn't real, the food isn't real.
They won't keep you from being hungry or cold. It's just a virtual economy.. with your REAL money.
The wife you are ignoring, the job, the bills, the trouble-some kids you're ignoring, ... they'll all just go away if I spend enough money to escape it for a while.

.. except all those problems are still there, and often worse, when I come back to reality.

Ok, taking my psycho hat back off now... holding up my virtual shield, ready for all the replies now.

...or I will be, soon as I buy this insult-protection spell.

your right on the money with the way add ons and extras will be used just Like in app purchases.

I actually the miss the late 90’s , back then it felt like a healthy balance between the internet and real life. Like you could go about your normal day, no smart phones, notifications or anything. You could go out socialise then get back home surf the web for a couple of hours and have some fun. Like nothing relied heavily for things online back then. Everybody was running still using good old fashioned analogue ways of storage and operating business without relying to heavily on the internet , but now 25 years later everything is online, even using the phone to talk to,somebody is actually becoming obsolete as most things can be automated online now.

the Older I get the more it appeals to me to find a log cabin somewhere in the middle of nowhere or some mountain or Forrest retreat just to be in nature and get back to basics, of course there would have to be an internet connection , still need YouTube and Linux.org!
but to spend a good majority of the day breathing fresh air, and out of the field of Any electromagnetic devices.

one of my favourite quotes by a chief from the Native American Indians “only once the last river is poisoned and the last tree has been cut down, only then will people realise you cannot eat money”!

 

[KGIII]

But then comercial businesses and information brokers got in the game.

I think they were kinda there from the beginning. They just weren't as adept as they are today. The first spam was in 1978, by DEC as memory serves.

People lament the old days, but we had ads on BBSes. Heck, we'd dial into servers wholly owned by businesses - such as IBM.

I agree, but I think they were there from the start - but weren't all that adept at it. Credit Card data was amalgamated and sold in the 80s. Once it went 'world wide', nobody really knew what it was going to be, So, they were far more clumsy.

Also, it absolutely was the wild west. I kinda miss those days... Then came Eternal September and it hasn't been the same since. I sometimes wish we'd never made it 'user friendly'. The web was far more awesome when you had to be smart enough to connect to it.

As for the 'metaverse', that's usually full of the kinds of people I doubt Linux.org wants to be involved with - assuming the OP means the 'federated metaverse' stuff that's full of 'free speech' sites and no censorship?

 

[wizardfromoz]

Moving this to Off Topic, hang on to your hats.

Wizard

 

[Mike13Foxtrot]

People lament the old days, but we had ads on BBSes

HEHEHE he said BBS's...... I still have a storage bin of Floppies. It was grand when 14.4 Baud modem was a thing. Started with a 2400.
Former "Facebook" has lost 29 Billion dollars in 1 day. And users are running away.


There are creepy people everywhere.

Woman alleges ‘gang rape’ in Meta virtual world

A woman in the UK wrote in a blog post on Medium that she experienced a real horror play out in the virtual game Horizon Worlds developed by Meta, formerly known as Facebook.

www.scmp.com

 

[KGIII]

Started with a 2400.

I think my first use was a 900 baud acoustic coupler (cradle modem).

I still sometimes type it "MODEM", though that has long fallen out of fashion. MOdulate and DEModulate (for the younger folks).

My first use of a programmable computer (calculator) was this bad boy:

Hewlett-Packard 9100A - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

It might have been the B model. We had card readers and a plotter output, and it could connect to a TV.

An awesome old promotion for it:

 

[Mike13Foxtrot]

I think my first use was a 900 baud acoustic coupler (cradle modem).

I still sometimes type it "MODEM", though that has long fallen out of fashion. MOdulate and DEModulate (for the younger folks).

My first use of a programmable computer (calculator) was this bad boy:

Hewlett-Packard 9100A - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

It might have been the B model. We had card readers and a plotter output, and it could connect to a TV

Can't remember the computers used in the Army. We did have the DMD (Digital Message Device) sends Arty fire missions from a keyboard with a reddish display over FM radio to the Guns. Was at Ft Sill testing the DMD with a new system and a new camera that could see out to 3000 meters and thru smoke and everything. The Tech was running late the first day he had to stop at Radio Shack to get some parts to finish the Joystick control for the Cam. Took a 13 ton Fist Vehicle with dual TOW missile mount, out to the Range and buttoned up as a tornado was forming about 1000 meters away.

Once I was out in '88 after 8 years, I got the first PC I owned 8086 12 Mhz, dual floppies no hard drive, no clock chip. Turn it on type date and time. Only had 640kb ram, and only so much DOS can fit, you would need the disk for some commands. The clock/battery set was 100 bucks. The first HD was 32MB MFM, at 250 bucks.

 

[Brickwizard]

I owned 8086 12 Mhz,

Ar the old 8bit IBM compatible, I had one of those as my first desktop

 

[smooth_buddha]

My first decent computer was an Amiga500. I loved that machine booting everything with old floppys really easy to copy games on it lol

 

[KGIII]

It was late 60s or early 70s. In the early 70s, just before graduating, we had a pipe to the mainframe at Dartmouth. (I went to a pretty ritzy private school, but was a scholarship kid,)

I had very little interest in computers at the time.

 

[Mike13Foxtrot]

It was late 60s or early 70s. In the early 70s, just before graduating, we had a pipe to the mainframe at Dartmouth. (I went to a pretty ritzy private school, but was a scholarship kid,)

I had very little interest in computers at the time.

You sound a bit like this kid.

 

[KGIII]

You sound a bit like this kid.

My first four years at university were as an EE major and a pure math minor. I don't have 45 minutes to watch your video, but he does look like he's having fun. I'm enjoying the Olympics anyhow.

Hmm... Lemme see... I had a TRS-80 and a TRS-80 III, complete with math co-processor!

I had the mobile TRS-80 100 - with its own MODEM. It wasn't even a cradle MODEM. No, it was a giant brick of a thing that legit plugged into a telephone jack (RJ 11? Maybe? I'm sipping the wine now). Calling it a 'mobile' device was a misnomer once you had any attachments.

Man, I hated those things... As much as I miss the time where it took some intellect to use a computer, they were really horrible things even if you did know what you were doing. Alas, I needed them for one reason or another. They sure did make math easier. Well, faster...

 

[Mike13Foxtrot]

"How about a nice game of Chess?"

 

[KGIII]

'The only winning move is not to play."

For a while, I was loaned a Cray "personal computer". It was like 3.5' high, 1.5' wide, and 4' deep. Sadly, the name of the model was lost to me, perhaps in a drunken brawl, and I've never been able to find a picture of it.

I got to play with all sorts of stuff. While in school, my research was mostly sponsored by DEC. I had pretty much zero funding from the school itself as they didn't think it'd be a worthwhile venture.