Hmm... Did you mean a different browser? As memory serves, Firefox didn't exist until 2004 or 2005.
(I was an Opera user back then.)
Why so many Linux distributions support FireFox?
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Hmm... Did you mean a different browser? As memory serves, Firefox didn't exist until 2004 or 2005.
(I was an Opera user back then.)
Well, yes.
2006 when getting acquainted with FF indeed. Always reverted back after trying new things.
To each their own I guess.
Brickwizard
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I cant remember the exact date but prior to using FF I used its parent Netscape [back in the days of w3 I used CompuServe]
LOL I hope you weren't using Win95 in 2004!
I figure that might be what they mean. I just double checked and Firefox was released, version 1.0, in 2004.
It feels longer than that but it isn't. Chrome didn't exist until 2008, from a quick search. Oddly, that one seems shorter. That's probably because I didn't use it at the time. I was still firmly in the Opera camp, even though it was not free.
There were ways to pirate Opera back then, and you could use it as adware, but I felt that it was worth paying for. If one were to go back and look, Opera is responsible for many of the innovations and even standards in browsers. Once upon a time, they were cutting edge and innovative. Now, they're owned by another company and they're just a Chromium fork with some bolted on extra features.
Also, with Firefox and Chrome being 'good enough', there was no market left for paid browsers and the ad-supported version never gained much traction. People would just pirate it instead of using the ad-supported version. That was not a sustainable business model in the world of free browsers.
Hmm... Man, I was fortunate enough to experience quite a bit of what is now computer history. If I were more motivated, I'd write a book. Alas, that's not going to happen.
OP
Terminal Velocity
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You introduced me to Brave and then you left but I use both now FF and Brave, 2 browsers is a must with all that tracking going on
Aristarchus
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If this is the only reason for multiple browsers: FF with multiple profiles will cover this and more.
I don't really have a 'favourite' as such, although current Opera probably gets more use than most. That's mainly for one of its presently-implemented features; "Workspaces".
This allows me to organise the browser in very much the same way as I'm already used to doing with my 'desktops'; fora on one, blogs on another, media streaming sites on a third, etc. And no; please don't suggest the 'tab-stacking' stuff that comes with some other browser variants. I've tried it; I didn't like it. It's a messy, untidy alternative to what the Opera devs have made "intuitive", as far as I'm concerned. But my personal choices wouldn't necessarily suit others. I get that, and am fine with it.
To each their own.....and here's to Linux versatility in general!
Mike.
This allows me to organise the browser in very much the same way as I'm already used to doing with my 'desktops'; fora on one, blogs on another, media streaming sites on a third, etc. And no; please don't suggest the 'tab-stacking' stuff that comes with some other browser variants. I've tried it; I didn't like it. It's a messy, untidy alternative to what the Opera devs have made "intuitive", as far as I'm concerned. But my personal choices wouldn't necessarily suit others. I get that, and am fine with it.
To each their own.....and here's to Linux versatility in general!
Mike.
Aristarchus
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Netscape Communicator, Netscape Navigator, Phoenix, something, something, Firefox. Just family development.LOL I hope you weren't using Win95 in 2004!
I figure that might be what they mean. I just double checked and Firefox was released, version 1.0, in 2004.
It feels longer than that but it isn't. Chrome didn't exist until 2008, from a quick search. Oddly, that one seems shorter. That's probably because I didn't use it at the time. I was still firmly in the Opera camp, even though it was not free.
There were ways to pirate Opera back then, and you could use it as adware, but I felt that it was worth paying for. If one were to go back and look, Opera is responsible for many of the innovations and even standards in browsers. Once upon a time, they were cutting edge and innovative. Now, they're owned by another company and they're just a Chromium fork with some bolted on extra features.
Also, with Firefox and Chrome being 'good enough', there was no market left for paid browsers and the ad-supported version never gained much traction. People would just pirate it instead of using the ad-supported version. That was not a sustainable business model in the world of free browsers.
Hmm... Man, I was fortunate enough to experience quite a bit of what is now computer history. If I were more motivated, I'd write a book. Alas, that's not going to happen.
Netscape Mail, Netscape News...
I was so excited downloading new versions over (completely safe, not secured) FTP.
As crazy as this sounds, FTP is still used today. SFTP is the preference but many web hosting companies don't have SFTP enabled. So, you get the old and insecure FTP.
I still see telnet used from time to time.
How else are you supposed to play Zork?!?
Actually, it looks like that server is dead.
Hmm... ASCII Star Wars is still available.
Smash this into your terminal:
telnet towel.blinkenlights.nlAristarchus
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Heh, my point was that none of this was insecure. Everybody was using FTP. It was not "crazy" just normal.
It may have been "normal", but it was definitely insecure. I know, everybody was using standard http for surfing the web, passwords and emails were flying in a plain text form and anybody in the middle could see them. I remember when my email provider had implemented secure login to the webmail. The password was sent using https, the rest (all the emails) via http. It was insecure as hell, but sometimes ignorance is a bliss.
Yup. Security was an afterthought where the web was concerned.
I use FileZilla to transfer my Expirion Linux ISOs to SourceForge and I have two browsers FireFox and Chromium on Expirion as default
Hmm... I can't log in to my SF account. (It should be the same credentials as my Slashdot user.)
Is SF still plain FTP? Last I knew, SSH was an option. I can't see if it's SFTP or just plain FTP.
That said, I still use FileZilla. They support SFTP and it's a good FTP client. A long time ago, I used to use AbsoluteFTP on Windows and it was a fantastic client. They eventually stopped working on it and started a new product called SecureFX. I never had a license for that one, I don't think.
I just looked and they now appear to be supporting Linux.
They have a trial version that I'll take for a spin when I get a minute and motivation.
Those old modems can still be useful - sort of... On a host that, for whatever reason, can't tell whether it's on utility power or the UPS has kicked in, an external modem (not plugged in to the UPS) will stop responding with "OK" when pinged with "AT" when utility power drops so the host can be triggered to shut down cleanly. ... Assuming there's a free legacy serial port on the host.
Sorry, my brain does this sometimes.
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