Which mouse brand or model would you recommend?

[Condobloke]

Kensington

Mine is wired, but kensinton will make a wireless as well

M.O. 1386
P/N K72355
This is a mid sized mouse....printed on the bottom of the mouse.....which likely indicates that they make other sizes

I have been using this one for close to ~ 4 years
I have taken it apart to clean it out, a few times.....just 3 screws....1 at the bottom and two at the top hidden under the 'slippery' stickons. 5 minute job....done carefully so as not to dislodge the scroll wheel. Simple stuff.

Pro Fit™ Full-Size Wireless Mouse | Ergonomic Input Devices | Kensington

www.kensington.com

• Ergonomic, right-handed shape with soft rubber grip
• Pointer speed quick-select button
• Forward/back buttons
• High-definition optical sensor (up to 1200 DPI) for responsive control
• 2.4 GHz wireless for long range and minimal interference
• Plug and Play - no drivers required
• Scroll wheel with middle button
• Built to last with a limited lifetime warranty
• This product is designed to comfortably fit users with larger sized hands.

 

[CaffeineAddict]

I have been using this one for close to ~ 4 years
I have taken it apart to clean it out, a few times.....just 3 screws....1 at the bottom and two at the top hidden under the 'slippery' stickons.

Nice recommendation, I'm surprised it has 5 yrs warranty, you could have sent it for repair instead of fixing yourself (if it wasn't working)

 

[Condobloke]

It was working. if it had failed completely I would have been most surprised. My keyboard is also a Kensington. It has amassed 10 years + of keystrokes. All I have managed to break in that time is some of the plastic surround....which I repaired with duct tape. Mechanically it is still quite perfect.

There was just a bit of hesitation from the scroll wheel on the mouse

I knew from experience it would just be a bit of fluff wrapped around the spindle the wheel turns on. Picked the bit of fluff off with the point of a needle, and good to go again.

They obviously make a product that stands the test of time.

 

[Sherri is a Cat]

I believe you'll find this is largely due to the properties of lithium-ion batteries.

I've only ever used alkaline batteries.

 

[MikeWalsh]

I've only ever used alkaline batteries.

Whoops; my bad. Yah; looking at the images of your mouse again I see now it has a battery hatch.

I just kind of assumed it was rechargeable. So many are now.....and most have been for quite some time.


Mike.

 

[Fanboi]

Currently using this sucker: https://www.redragonzone.com/products/redragon-perdition-2-m901-k-2-wired-gaming-mouse

12 side buttons, ergonomically placed DPI buttons (up to 12k DPI), all the standard buttons. Also adjustable weights (I never adjust them, I like my kbd and mouse heavy as possible). I don't "game" (by today's standards, I like my emulators and good old games) but I love multiple programmable buttons. TBH I could nver go back to a normal mouse. At minimum I need 3 side buttons I can bind to Ctrl, Shift, Alt... Though having quick copy+paste buttons, and shortcut keys for Inkscape, GIMP, etc. tools is really great. As is Ctr+Z/Y.
Cons:

• The RGB light toggle button is on top so you sometimes bump it. Protip: 7 taps to get back to the setting you were on -- just my OCD. I like it red with no effects as red puts the least strain on your eyes.
• It's cheap... though it doesn't feel cheap. It's pretty solid. Time will tell. I've had it less than a year.

"Cons":

• Not for people with small hands. I have big hands, but TBH I don't hold a mouse like most folk so it wouldn't make much difference. I don't get this criticism.
• Wired. Well, it's a pretty long, braided cable. That and I'm in the wired camp**

If you want a pricier, less cheap version, I can recommend the brand Canyon. Very good but out of my price range. These cheap Chinese mice work fine. I bought a Foxxray about 4-5 years back and I'm not using it for my laptop, not issues.

Also, note: Programmable mice do not need the software on Linux any more (so no VM passthroughs for Windows-only settings apps). We have input-remapper which can create complex binds on anything.


**Everything my side is wired besides my headset (ripping hazard). I hate wireless stuff. I have a PDP Xbox Controller which is wired and I could've got a wireless cheaper because the thought of latency or flat battery messing up a gaming session... ugh. That and these PDP controllers are worth the extra buck, they feel amazing /off-topic

 

[CaffeineAddict]

but TBH I don't hold a mouse like most folk

That's something that baffles me, I'm not sure how one should hold the mouse?
With full hand or only lightly so that only 3 fingers touch the mouse? (with other 2 touching the desk)

I hold my mouse with fingers only because then don't need to drag my whole hand to move it.
IMO holding with full hand requires high DPI setting to reduce whole hand movement.

 

[Condobloke]

I 'clamp' the mouse between thumb and fourth finger and hit the scroll/left and right mouse buttons with my forefinger........while swivelling my wrist from left to right to cover the page

Works for me

 

[MikeWalsh]

I 'clamp' the mouse between thumb and fourth finger and hit the scroll/left and right mouse buttons with my forefinger........while swivelling my wrist from left to right to cover the page

Works for me

Snap! Me, too...except with me it's forefinger for left-click and scroll, middle finger for right-click.

It's called the 'palm-grip', because holding it this way puts the curved top of the mouse snugly in contact with the palm of your hand. It also makes picking up and repositioning the mouse much easier.

As far back as I can remember, I've always held a mouse this way.....especially nowadays, since I sit on the side of my bed when I'm on my main desktop rig in the bedroom, and use the mouse on the bedcover beside me! The 'claw-grip', however - as described above by @CaffeineAddict - has always sounded most uncomfortable to me..!

(I don't think there IS any 'right' or 'wrong' way to hold one. Whatever you find most comfortable & 'works' for you, I guess).


Mike.

 

[CaffeineAddict]

It's called the 'palm-grip'

'claw-grip'

Oh great, there is naming, I took a loot at images and I guess I'm somewhere is the middle but neither.

Problem with full palm-grip for me is that my hand sweats so need to clean out the mouse and dry my hand every few minutes.

 

[KGIII]

I get mice large enough to use my whole hand. The first finger is on the left button and scroll wheel, the second finger does the right mouse button, the thumb does the forward and back button, and the remaining fingers support the right side of the mouse.

I like a chunky mouse.

 

[dos2unix]

I like a chunky mouse.

 

[KGIII]

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[Fanboi]

That's something that baffles me, I'm not sure how one should hold the mouse?
With full hand or only lightly so that only 3 fingers touch the mouse? (with other 2 touching the desk)

I hold my mouse with fingers only because then don't need to drag my whole hand to move it.
IMO holding with full hand requires high DPI setting to reduce whole hand movement.

Generally, I rest my palm on the desk, my thumb on the side buttons and my index and middle finger on each of the main buttons and the remaining fingers to the side. I've always found it less of a strain than putting my whole hand on the mouse, which wears the wrists something awful, so I only use a full grip when doing specific tasks, mainly graphics editing. A friend of mine wears this weird glove that's supposed to prevent carpal tunnel, but luckily that's not an issue for me because aside from my relaxed grip, I'm also pretty keyboard-centric.

 

[MikeWalsh]

@Fanboi :-

Because I use the mouse on the duvet-cover beside me where I sit on the side of the bed when using the desktop, I hold it full-palm....and fingers as you describe. Using it this way means my wrist and the lower part of my forearm are both supported by the firm mattress I prefer.

I know, it SOUNDS kinda "awkward".....but I can use the thing for hours at a time like this with no discomfort at all. Well, it works for me..!!


Mike.

 

[Fanboi]

@Fanboi :-

Because I use the mouse on the duvet-cover beside me where I sit on the side of the bed when using the desktop, I hold it full-palm....and fingers as you describe. Using it this way means my wrist and the lower part of my forearm are both supported by the firm mattress I prefer.

I know, it SOUNDS kinda "awkward".....but I can use the thing for hours at a time like this with no discomfort at all. Well, it works for me..!!


Mike.

I tried it, didn't work for me. See when I returned from the bushes to "civilisation", I was living in a garage so when I started this sales gig, my bed was my desk. First time I ever really truly appreciated the value of a laptop's trackpad, lol.

BTW: I also prefer a firm mattress. I usually manage to dent most mattresses, even regularly turning them, within year or two unless you can bounce an elephant off them, and I'm only 79kg (last time I weighed myself).

 

[MikeWalsh]

@Fanboi :-

Yeah; I can understand where you're coming from. When I first began to use a mouse in this manner, it felt all "wrong", given that I'd been used to operating it at desk height beside the keyboard.

But the desk is now just too far away from the bed for that to be practical, so.....I persevered. It's got now that I'm SO used to doing things this way, if I try to use a mouse normally on the desktop - beside the keyboard - THAT now feels all "wrong"..!

Awkward bugger, aren't I? It's a case of what you get used to, I suppose...

Anyways; I have to report that.....

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.....I absolutely adore this new Trust Ozaa + !

I don't think I've ever had any mouse that felt so "right", straight away. It only turned up about 6 hours ago, and after a couple of hours charging I've been using it for about 3 hours.....and it already feels like I've been using it for months!

With the exception of a lack of "heft" - it's a fair bit lighter than the MX Master 2S - it's like an old comfy pair of slippers. It fits my hand like a glove. It's got the broad 'thumb-rest' I now find essential. The buttons are ultra-quiet; the scroll-wheels - both of 'em! - have a really nice soft textured rubber grip (as does the body & sides of the thing); the side-scroll wheel, in particular, is really light to use, although it IS positive-feeling.....and the layout of the side-scroll AND side-buttons seem to have been carefully designed for those of us with bigger hands. They're nicely 'out-of-the-way' without being too much of a stretch to use. Somebody put a lot of thought into the ergonomics of this thing.

No, the main scroll-wheel doesn't have that electromagnetically-operated "fast-spin" thing the 2S has, but I can happily live without it, 'cos it's more trouble than it's worth. If forums across the web are anything to go by, there's a LOT of people out there who, like me, were initially 'wowed' by their MX Master, only to become rapidly disenchanted by the constant juddering & on/off behaviour of that very 'fussy' mechanism.

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Don't get me wrong. On the whole, I like Logitech's gear. I've had a LOT of their peripherals over the years, and in general have been very pleased with them - the c920 HD 'Pro' webcam is sublime (despite that it's a dinosaur in terms of 'tech' years) - but having lived with one for nearly 3 years I DO think the whole MX 'Master' series of mice have been massively "over-hyped" for what they are. Yes, they're beautifully-shaped and super-comfortable in the hand.....but they're packed to the gills with just too MUCH complicated engineering. They're "over-engineered", if anything.....like a solution looking for a problem.

This Ozaa + has all the good points of the MX Master.....without the downsides. In some ways it's considerably simpler, but as many Windows users would probably agree, it also doesn't require the installation of a gig of software just to make the thing function. Ya plug it in, and courtesy of the Linux kernel, everything just "works".....instantly.

I knew I was going to like this mouse. I just got one of those 'feelings', y'know? As I've stated before, 'simple' is always GOOD.

(I know, I know; how can anybody get so excited over a simple thing like a mouse? When you use one for several hours most days, such things DO make a difference.....and a drawerful of rarely-used "rodents" is testament to just how long I've been looking.)

For me, at least, I believe I've finally found the "perfect" mouse.

(shrug...)


Mike.