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I tried Ubuntu with Gnome on my old HP Pavilion. It sucked. I whined about it in another thread, but again:
#1 problem: the video manager simply failed. Seems like an "X-Windows" problem, but may be the Firefox implementation. Its been a couple years now, and I can't remember for sure if it was not system-wide, only limited to Firefox drivers. Complex websites with "parts" that normally should overlap other "parts" (pop-ups, etc) looked like they were cut randomly into pieces, and then these pieces were randomly arranged on the screen, some overlapping others. An unreadable mess.
#2 problem: the code-editor I use, Komodo Edit, took a full 30 seconds to start-up, as opposed to 5 secs on Windows 7. The computer is locked up at that time, no idea if anything is actually happening or starting.....
#3 problem: Komodo Edit, at seemingly random times, had the same problem as Firefox, with it's display window all cut up and jumbled. Komodo Edit says it uses the Firefox engine for display, but imports it's own stable, unchanging version. Again, a Firefox issue, or the X-Windows system in Linux? Komodo Edit 10 works flawlessly on Window 7, but is now at version 12, which does not support Windows 7. That was a main reason I wanted to move to Linux.
#4 problem: Firefox kept warning me an update was available, and I kept telling it no. Eventually, it decided (I think it was 15 days?) it wouldn't wait anymore, and updated. It warned me that it would, for the previous 15 days. Then it worked less reliably. I couldn't find any option to control updates for Firefox.
#5 problem: the entire OS took unreasonably long to boot-up.
#6 problem: I write software for websites. I installed Apache, which came packaged with Ubuntu, for local development purposes. Then because Ubuntu thinks that my personal laptop is a top-secret government computer used in the President's office, I have to use the terminal, and type in my password FOR EVERY SINGLE FILE I want to move into the .htdocs folder so they can be served locally. EVERY TIME I make an update, which can be, oh, every 20 seconds or so at times. I can not simply edit the file using my editor to save it in the proper place. Eventually, I learned how to --- pipe ? --- is that the right term? --- files from another folder into the server's folder. This time I will set up an entire drive partition only for Apache on Windows (using the XAMPP package) and pipe the files from there. That way Linus does not have to mess with the Windows 7 partition. The Linux Kernel seems fine with file systems, (only desktop graphical user interfaces seem to give problems from what I've seen), but I would rather not risk Linux messing with Windows.
#7 problem: same really as #6: security levels are way to extreme. It's just my personal laptop. Not a multi-user mainframe server. I don't leave it sitting on my desk in a busy office, turned on while I use the toilet, allowing nefarious people from a competing department to download nefarious software on it. It is password protected when turned on. Good enough.
#8 problem: first time I used the word processor (was it Open Office or Libra Office, I forget; whatever came in the package) I wrote a page or two and then the whole computer crashed, OS and all (haven't seen that since the days of Windows ME!). Lost hours of work. You would think that the "auto-save" feature would be turned on by default. Took me a while later to even find that option.
#9 problem: there was some other option in the OS that was "hidden" from me (I forget now) that was very frustrating. About the time I gave up on Ubuntu altogether was the time I found that option. Something about folders............
That's what I remember, anyways....
So now I wiped that drive clean, re-installed my OEM Windows 7 fresh, and am ready for another try at a dual-boot machine with another flavor of Linux.
On Windows, I used Steinberg's Wavelab LE for audio editing, and I loved it. I also used Roxio's products, but they are limited and buggy in-use, and annoying in how they lock-up my computer's entire file-sytem for 45 seconds anytime I insert a new CD. However, Steinberg uses some proprietary licensing manager that is a real PITA to use. My old license is not working, despite their assurances it would for LIFE. I tried to log in to their Account Manager, and it rejects my password. I tried to reset my password, and it says I can not reuse the old password. I tried the old password again, and it says wrong password "too many times" and blocked me. But that's another problem; it's just pushing me back to Linux.
I tried to ask this similar question before, and got a bunch of useless advertising from proponents of various flavors, none of which actually addressed the problems or requirements I was asking for, or flubbered while trying to do so without actually solving those problems or explaining why they occur.
Now I can't even find a website or page that actually compares distros side by side. Though I saw that before.
One (or more?) of those folks before mentioned Mint Linux. It stuck in my head 'cause I like mints. I went to their website, and it says "OOOHHH! AAAHHHH NICE!" but says absolutely nothing about what comes in the package.
On previous posts, I was asking if the KDE desktop might have better "X-Windows" support (vs. the Gnome desktop with Ubuntu). Nothing but folks who like to see their post-count numbers grow responded.
Now I can't even find a place that tells me which distros use KDE vs. Gnome. Even Mint's site says nothing about it. Some other site said there are two versions, one with KDE, one with Gnome, yet Mint's site says ........nothing.......
And maybe a distro made for personal computers (my laptop), not one with maximum security where I have to have a prybar and carbide-tipped drill to get to my files. Even it I only had to type my password once to access a folder, would be OK. But not for every file every time. That is so ridiculous.
But I would also like a distro that comes with a server and basic audio-editing software in the package, similar to Wavelab LE or Roxio Sound-Editor.
So.... a distro with KDE and audio-editing software? Open Office or Libra Office would be nice, too. And Firefox.
Any hints?
I tried Ubuntu with Gnome on my old HP Pavilion. It sucked. I whined about it in another thread, but again:
#1 problem: the video manager simply failed. Seems like an "X-Windows" problem, but may be the Firefox implementation. Its been a couple years now, and I can't remember for sure if it was not system-wide, only limited to Firefox drivers. Complex websites with "parts" that normally should overlap other "parts" (pop-ups, etc) looked like they were cut randomly into pieces, and then these pieces were randomly arranged on the screen, some overlapping others. An unreadable mess.
#2 problem: the code-editor I use, Komodo Edit, took a full 30 seconds to start-up, as opposed to 5 secs on Windows 7. The computer is locked up at that time, no idea if anything is actually happening or starting.....
#3 problem: Komodo Edit, at seemingly random times, had the same problem as Firefox, with it's display window all cut up and jumbled. Komodo Edit says it uses the Firefox engine for display, but imports it's own stable, unchanging version. Again, a Firefox issue, or the X-Windows system in Linux? Komodo Edit 10 works flawlessly on Window 7, but is now at version 12, which does not support Windows 7. That was a main reason I wanted to move to Linux.
#4 problem: Firefox kept warning me an update was available, and I kept telling it no. Eventually, it decided (I think it was 15 days?) it wouldn't wait anymore, and updated. It warned me that it would, for the previous 15 days. Then it worked less reliably. I couldn't find any option to control updates for Firefox.
#5 problem: the entire OS took unreasonably long to boot-up.
#6 problem: I write software for websites. I installed Apache, which came packaged with Ubuntu, for local development purposes. Then because Ubuntu thinks that my personal laptop is a top-secret government computer used in the President's office, I have to use the terminal, and type in my password FOR EVERY SINGLE FILE I want to move into the .htdocs folder so they can be served locally. EVERY TIME I make an update, which can be, oh, every 20 seconds or so at times. I can not simply edit the file using my editor to save it in the proper place. Eventually, I learned how to --- pipe ? --- is that the right term? --- files from another folder into the server's folder. This time I will set up an entire drive partition only for Apache on Windows (using the XAMPP package) and pipe the files from there. That way Linus does not have to mess with the Windows 7 partition. The Linux Kernel seems fine with file systems, (only desktop graphical user interfaces seem to give problems from what I've seen), but I would rather not risk Linux messing with Windows.
#7 problem: same really as #6: security levels are way to extreme. It's just my personal laptop. Not a multi-user mainframe server. I don't leave it sitting on my desk in a busy office, turned on while I use the toilet, allowing nefarious people from a competing department to download nefarious software on it. It is password protected when turned on. Good enough.
#8 problem: first time I used the word processor (was it Open Office or Libra Office, I forget; whatever came in the package) I wrote a page or two and then the whole computer crashed, OS and all (haven't seen that since the days of Windows ME!). Lost hours of work. You would think that the "auto-save" feature would be turned on by default. Took me a while later to even find that option.
#9 problem: there was some other option in the OS that was "hidden" from me (I forget now) that was very frustrating. About the time I gave up on Ubuntu altogether was the time I found that option. Something about folders............
That's what I remember, anyways....
So now I wiped that drive clean, re-installed my OEM Windows 7 fresh, and am ready for another try at a dual-boot machine with another flavor of Linux.
On Windows, I used Steinberg's Wavelab LE for audio editing, and I loved it. I also used Roxio's products, but they are limited and buggy in-use, and annoying in how they lock-up my computer's entire file-sytem for 45 seconds anytime I insert a new CD. However, Steinberg uses some proprietary licensing manager that is a real PITA to use. My old license is not working, despite their assurances it would for LIFE. I tried to log in to their Account Manager, and it rejects my password. I tried to reset my password, and it says I can not reuse the old password. I tried the old password again, and it says wrong password "too many times" and blocked me. But that's another problem; it's just pushing me back to Linux.
I tried to ask this similar question before, and got a bunch of useless advertising from proponents of various flavors, none of which actually addressed the problems or requirements I was asking for, or flubbered while trying to do so without actually solving those problems or explaining why they occur.
Now I can't even find a website or page that actually compares distros side by side. Though I saw that before.
One (or more?) of those folks before mentioned Mint Linux. It stuck in my head 'cause I like mints. I went to their website, and it says "OOOHHH! AAAHHHH NICE!" but says absolutely nothing about what comes in the package.
On previous posts, I was asking if the KDE desktop might have better "X-Windows" support (vs. the Gnome desktop with Ubuntu). Nothing but folks who like to see their post-count numbers grow responded.
Now I can't even find a place that tells me which distros use KDE vs. Gnome. Even Mint's site says nothing about it. Some other site said there are two versions, one with KDE, one with Gnome, yet Mint's site says ........nothing.......
And maybe a distro made for personal computers (my laptop), not one with maximum security where I have to have a prybar and carbide-tipped drill to get to my files. Even it I only had to type my password once to access a folder, would be OK. But not for every file every time. That is so ridiculous.
But I would also like a distro that comes with a server and basic audio-editing software in the package, similar to Wavelab LE or Roxio Sound-Editor.
So.... a distro with KDE and audio-editing software? Open Office or Libra Office would be nice, too. And Firefox.
Any hints?