What is the most reliable solution to have a "Linux mobile phone"?

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Most Linux users want to have a mobile phone with a Linux operating system installed. The question is very difficult: what is the most reliable solution to have a "Linux mobile phone"?

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isnt Android basically a linux phone
Now that very much depends on how you look at it, Google developed the original Android based on Fedora, but that was a long time ago, now it is no longer a part of the GNU family, now it is locked down and a commercial OS with all the problems of windows [security wise]
 
It's sort of like Chrome vs Chromium. Android is still open source, in part. OEMs add binary blobs to make radios work and stuff like that. But, in theory, you could flash pure Android to a mobile device. You won't have things like the Google ecosystem, no Play services or anything like that.
 
It's sort of like Chrome vs Chromium. Android is still open source, in part. OEMs add binary blobs to make radios work and stuff like that. But, in theory, you could flash pure Android to a mobile device. You won't have things like the Google ecosystem, no Play services or anything like that.

This would be basically like a deGoogled Android
 
isnt Android basically a linux phone? not all that different from other distros
AAAAA!!!! NO NO NO NO NO.. sorry I have recently gotten into android programming and I see how it all "works" under the hood. What google did was take linux and make a complete abomination out of it. I am embarrassed to call android a linux distro. But to compare it to others is like calling a yugo a ferrari just because they are both cars.

as an example, android you can't write a program that affects the device. can't even turn off or reset the wifi due to google restrictions. I want to write a music player but I need permission to access the user's music files granted by user. Seems if it is their own files in their own folder then their own program should be fine. The list goes on and on and on but android should have Linus revoke the permission to use kernel.

If you want to go further, android is spyware. It reports back everything if you use google analytics. Android is commercial and everything you want, people want money. Total opposite of any other linux. You would never get your software published in the various repos if it was full of spyware or advertising.

The people developing android software are windows developers and they bring the windoze philosophy with them. That is one with the worst parts of capitalism. Working with android devs is like working with Ferengi

on the subject of real linux on the phone, It does look like Fedora is close. I have fedora on some tablets but they are x86 tablets. I have fedora on several ARM processors and it worked right out of the box. Not sure if other distros, other than debian have done this. If anybody wants to look into real linux on a phone I would look at Fedora and Debian.
 
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Now that very much depends on how you look at it, Google developed the original Android based on Fedora, but that was a long time ago, now it is no longer a part of the GNU family, now it is locked down and a commercial OS with all the problems of windows [security wise]
It might as well be windoze. between the lock down so you can't do anything programming wise and the advertising.
 
This would be basically like a deGoogled Android

Amusingly, it's Google's own phones that are among the easiest to flash with a different OS. You can even buy un-googled Pixels that have already been configured for you, or at least you could the last time I looked.

While counterintuitive, it makes some sense that the Pixel would allow that more easily, as Google wants the developer market on their phones and so the hardware is pretty open. It caters to the curious, among other things like functioning as a flagship.
 
Google and Apple smartphones are not reasonably safe, above all Google and Apple spy on users and monetize all the information they collect from them in a reckless way.
But they hold a market monopoly on mobile phones.

 
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