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When I said above that Proton doesn't log your traffic I assumed that the Law is not after you. If they are after you I have no idea what Proton will do, Swiss law respect human rights, that's all I have
Yes, but you also need to be aware that any service might orchestrate "required by the law" only to log your traffic.

Additionally, you need to know that some TOS and Privacy Policy might implicitly allow services to start log your traffic even if not required by the law, for example if they detect suspicious activities against their systems such as spam or hacking attempts.

That's why reading legal documents of services is mandatory for every user that cares about his\her privacy.
 


On the rare occasions I feel i need to be hidden, I use my Parotsec drive with Anonsurf [written by the parrot team] it is also available in other pen-testing distributions, and It has been ported for Ubuntu based distributions..
Oh and the latest version will escape sometime this summer, our maintainer is on the last knockings of the upgrade. But will be a while before its open to non parrot builds.
 
"no log" whether vpn, search engine, email or what ever other service you should always read TOS and Privacy Policy of those services because the law may require them to START logging your traffic at any time.

If they say "we don't log" doesn't mean "we may not start to do it if the law requires it"

There are many such pitfalls possible in TOS and privacy policies so you should always read them to understand.
All of this depends on the country where the business is located, international law and agreements between countries.
 
All of this depends on the country where the business is located, international law and agreements between countries.
Did you know that American NSA, CIA and other organisations according to European law have the right to demand user data of EU residents if a person using the service is considered terrorist or criminal?

More info here:

For Europeans whose personal data is transferred to the US, the Executive Order provides for:
  • Binding safeguards that limit access to data by US intelligence authorities to what is necessary and proportionate to protect national security;
  • Enhanced oversight of activities by US intelligence services to ensure compliance with limitations on surveillance activities; and
  • The establishment of an independent and impartial redress mechanism, which includes a new Data Protection Review Court to investigate and resolve complaints regarding access to their data by US national security authorities.

This also applies to services in Switzerland and Iceland as well, 2 countries with most strict and user friendly privacy laws.
 
Did you know that American NSA, CIA and other organisations according to European law have the right to demand user data of EU residents if a person using the service is considered terrorist or criminal?

More info here:



This also applies to services in Switzerland and Iceland as well, 2 countries with most strict and user friendly privacy laws.
You don't have to be criminal or terrorist for them to chase you, something you wrote once somewhere while you were angry for instance is enough to get you in trouble. They targeting people also for prevention, it's easy and cheap to put you under surveillance
 
Did you know that American NSA, CIA and other organisations according to European law have the right to demand user data of EU residents if a person using the service is considered terrorist or criminal?

More info here:



This also applies to services in Switzerland and Iceland as well, 2 countries with most strict and user friendly privacy laws.
Yes, I've heard about this. I don't know the fine details. It's hard to keep myself from being apathetic.
 
You don't have to be criminal or terrorist for them to chase you, something you wrote once somewhere while you were angry for instance is enough to get you in trouble. They targeting people also for prevention, it's easy and cheap to put you under surveillance
I got blocked from Tweeting at a prominent politician when I asked him who gave his parents permission to reproduce. I'm probably under surveillance.
 
i installed proton with this command now i want to remove it because it dont work, how do i do remove it?
this is the command out outputs..
debian@debian:~$ wget https://repo2.protonvpn.com/debian/...-all/protonvpn-stable-release_1.0.3-3_all.deb
--2024-05-19 18:04:40-- https://repo2.protonvpn.com/debian/...-all/protonvpn-stable-release_1.0.3-3_all.deb
Resolving repo2.protonvpn.com (repo2.protonvpn.com)... 212.102.35.237
Connecting to repo2.protonvpn.com (repo2.protonvpn.com)|212.102.35.237|:443... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 4554 (4.4K) [application/octet-stream]
Saving to: ‘protonvpn-stable-release_1.0.3-3_all.deb’

protonvpn-stable-re 100%[===================>] 4.45K --.-KB/s in 0s

2024-05-19 18:04:41 (23.9 MB/s) - ‘protonvpn-stable-release_1.0.3-3_all.deb’ saved [4554/4554]

debian@debian:~$ sudo dpkg -i ./protonvpn-stable-release_1.0.3-3_all.deb && sudo apt update
[sudo] password for debian:
Selecting previously unselected package protonvpn-stable-release.
(Reading database ... 225824 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack .../protonvpn-stable-release_1.0.3-3_all.deb ...
Unpacking protonvpn-stable-release (1.0.3-3) ...
Setting up protonvpn-stable-release (1.0.3-3) ...
Get:1 https://packages.microsoft.com/repos/code stable InRelease [3,590 B]
Ign:2 https://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm InRelease
Ign:3 http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security InRelease
Ign:4 https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/strycore/Debian_12 ./ InRelease
Ign:5 https://repo.protonvpn.com/debian stable InRelease
Hit:6 https://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates InRelease
Hit:7 https://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-backports InRelease
Hit:2 https://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm InRelease
Ign:5 https://repo.protonvpn.com/debian stable InRelease
Ign:4 https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/strycore/Debian_12 ./ InRelease
Hit:3 http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security InRelease
Ign:5 https://repo.protonvpn.com/debian stable InRelease
Ign:4 https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/strycore/Debian_12 ./ InRelease
Err:5 https://repo.protonvpn.com/debian stable InRelease
Could not resolve 'repo.protonvpn.com'
Err:4 https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/strycore/Debian_12 ./ InRelease
Could not resolve 'download.opensuse.org'
Fetched 3,590 B in 1min 2s (57 B/s)
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
All packages are up to date.
W: Failed to fetch https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/strycore/Debian_12/./InRelease Could not resolve 'download.opensuse.org'
W: Failed to fetch https://repo.protonvpn.com/debian/dists/stable/InRelease Could not resolve 'repo.protonvpn.com'
W: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
 
@InvaderSumo, you may be tempting fate with your sources.list including foreign repos. That is where the errors are in the output. Perhaps check out: https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian

There's no need to have the foreign repos in the sources.list to download deb packages that can be downloaded and installed with: dpkg -i <pkg>.deb. Hopefully those deb packages have been written to be installed that way. In the past the proton VPN package has been successfully installed here.

In general, it's best to have the system updated and upgraded to the latest issues before trying to install any package by apt or dpkg because that puts the system in the best possible position to have all the dependencies that a package may require. So before running the dpkg command, one can run update and upgrade.

To remove the package, try using the remove and purge commands in dpkg.
 
not free but if it does exactly what they claim they'll do by not logging and spying then its work 5 bucks a month tbh
If it's free you are the product.
 
A full VPN service is almost never free because they have to manage all that traffic and bandwidth.

I don't use them, but i've seen it stated multiple times that it's not a good idea without the kill switch (internet shuts off when VPN does). Can any verify the extent that this matters?
 
A full VPN service is almost never free because they have to manage all that traffic and bandwidth.

I don't use them, but i've seen it stated multiple times that it's not a good idea without the kill switch (internet shuts off when VPN does). Can any verify the extent that this matters?
So i might buy IVPN. Its advertised on dnsleaktest.net it seems to be more promising than most other mainstream vpns. Was just wondering what vpns yall use that are paid for and why do yall prefer those vpns.???
 
So i might buy IVPN. Its advertised on dnsleaktest.net it seems to be more promising than most other mainstream vpns. Was just wondering what vpns yall use that are paid for and why do yall prefer those vpns.???
NVM. I bought IVPN and read their privacy statement and i like it. Also, It pretty darn fast too compared to ANY vpn ive ever used. 10/10 recommended
 
So i might buy IVPN. Its advertised on dnsleaktest.net it seems to be more promising than most other mainstream vpns. Was just wondering what vpns yall use that are paid for and why do yall prefer those vpns.???
I don't use vpns. My workaround is im extremely cautious about what do on the internet, i take the warning signs very seriously, and try very hard not to show anger, hostility, and i try not to buy anything. Plus, linux does help for the viruses.
 

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