Unable to run linux with upgraded hardware

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I have ugraded the hardware of my (assembled) desktop PC - Motherboard: MSI Z590-A-PRO (MS-7D09); Processor: Intel core i7-10700 @ 2.90GHz; Memory 4 x 8GB Corsair Dual-Channel @1332 MHz (18-18-18-43).
Wanting to try out the different Linux OS software, I attempted installing Ubuntu, Linux Mint and a couple of other versions of Linux OS. While most of these would run from the live DVD/USB, none would boot up once installed on the HDD (SSD). Each instance of Linux OS installation was an independent setup on a full HDD (SSD) i.e., not alongside any other OS like Windows etc. Also, the live DVD/USB requires running the Linux OS in Safe Graphics mode or something like that.
From this I infer that the problem somehow is related to the Graphics system post upgrade. There is no separate graphics card installed, and I understand that this MSI board does not have any onboard graphics either.
The installations used to work fine with the old hardware (details not available), but refuse to work after the upgrade! And I know I am not making any mistake in the process of creating the live DVD/USB and the installation steps.
I am neither a software expert nor a hardware expert, although I do understand how to manage.
Can someone help with this please?
 


Try.. MX-19.4.1_x64 “ahs”,, it has one of the latest kernels and the AHS means advanced hardware support [additional non free drivers for newer components]

Bwiz
 
It would be useful to know what onboard graphics controller your current motherboard has now. What happens after the installation is done and you reboot?
 
f33dm3bits said:
It would be useful to know what onboard graphics controller your current motherboard has now. What happens after the installation is done and you reboot?
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The motherboard does not have onboard graphics or add-on graphics card. The system uses the Processor in-built graphics (Intel® UHD Graphics 630). After installation and required restart, the power LED remains lit, the system (HDD) LED shows no activity (remains off), the display remains blank and the monitor pops up the message "no input signal". The keyboard and mouse do not invoke any response from the system either. I then need to manually power off the desktop PC by pressing the power button.
 
I have a system with a cpu with that same video chip on it.
Code: 
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation GeminiLake [UHD Graphics 600] (rev 03)
It uses the i915 kernel driver, you could try booting from the live installation media and then chroot into your system. Here's how to to do that.
In short:
1. Boot from installation media
2. Find your disk setup by opening a terminal and running: lsblk
3. Based on the output there mount the correct disk and partion to /mnt. That would look something like this but may differ depending on how you or the installer setup your partitions.
Code: 
sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
sudo mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev
sudo mount --bind /proc /mnt/proc
sudo mount --bind /sys /mnt/sys
sudo chroot /mnt
If you're not sure share the output of lsblk here in text with code tags when you are booted from the installation media.

After you have run the last command you are chrooted into your system, Open a terminal, you can then try install the xorg-intel driver.
Code: 
sudo apt install xserver-xorg-video-intel
While you are at it update your system(assuming you have a working network connection), by running.
Code: 
sudo apt update && sudo apt ugprade
Then shut your system down be first exiting out of the chroot, run the following.
Code: 
exit
Once you are out of the chroot shut your system down either through the terminal or through the interface.
Code: 
sudo shutdown -P now
Once your system is shutdown remove the installation media and turn it back on and then see if your system boots and your monitor turns on. If everything is working correctly you will see a grub menu when it starts up and then start booting into the kernel.
 
Hello All,

I have finally been able to resolve this by installing and add-on graphics card to the motherboard. After which installation of the Linux OS to HDD went through without any trouble.

My sincere thanks to all of you for providing me with your support and suggestions, based on which I could arrive at the decision to install the add-on graphics card.

Thank you!:)

Although I am unable to understand and continue to remain confused as to why the system refused to proceed with the installation when the add-on card was not there!:oops::(

But I am satisfied, now that the system is wotking well with Linux OS (installed Linux Lite), and I can get to experience the great software.:cool:
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mathewalex said:
PC - Motherboard: MSI Z590-A-PRO (MS-7D09); Processor: Intel core i7-10700 @ 2.90GHz; Memory 4 x 8GB Corsair Dual-Channel @1332 MHz (18-18-18-43).
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Just a thought....with those pc specs you could run Linux Mint (Cinnamon) 20.2 with ease.

You could download it, use whatever app is in Linux lite to make a usb stick bootable with it.....boot the pc to that usb stick and see how it goes.
Maybe worth a try ?....just for interests sake? It will not disturb the installed linux lite.
 
mathewalex said:
Hello All,

I have finally been able to resolve this by installing and add-on graphics card to the motherboard. After which installation of the Linux OS to HDD went through without any trouble.

Although I am unable to understand and continue to remain confused as to why the system refused to proceed with the installation when the add-on card was not there!:oops::(
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I'm still pretty sure it was a driver problem or missing since it is working with that plugin graphics card, that's why I suggested what I wrote out for you. I'm glad you were able to fix it with an alternative solution yourself, although it would be interesting to see the output of the following to see what we can see now.
Code: 
lspci | grep VGA
dpkg --list | grep xserver-xorg-video
 
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... and just another thing, forgotten above (shame)

Welcome to linux.org :)

Whether using Linux Lite or trying Linux Mint, or other, make the acquaintance of Timeshift (already installed on both), to take a snapshot of your working system.

If you need help configuring it optimally for your system, see me at

https://www.linux.org/threads/timeshift-similar-solutions-safeguard-recover-your-linux.15241/

and also consider swinging over to meet some more of the gang, and tell us some of the mathewalex story at

https://www.linux.org/forums/member-introductions.141/

Cheers and enjoy your Linux

Chris Turner
wizardfromoz
 
f33dm3bits said:
I'm still pretty sure it was a driver problem or missing since it is working with that plugin graphics card, that's why I suggested what I wrote out for you. I'm glad you were able to fix it with an alternative solution yourself, although it would be interesting to see the output of the following to see what we can see now.
Code: 
lspci | grep VGA
dpkg --list | grep xserver-xorg-video
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I was thinking that as well or possibly missing firmware
I wonder when he ran - sudo apt update - if it spit out something like
W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/i915/kbl_guc_ver9_14.bin for module i915
I think they would have mentioned that
or missing intel-microcode
 
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Hey,

I am Shiloh


I am a student and want to learn pen and penetration testing using linux.
a few months prior I assembled a pc with,


Intel Core i9 12900 (processor)
MSI PRO-Z690-A (motherboard)
CORSAIR 1*16 GB (memory)

soley to use and learn Kali Linux on it.

During installation at one part it says "some of your hardware need non-free firmware files to operate. The firmware
can be loaded using removable media like USB stick or floppy." and lists a bunch of texts ending with extention ".ucode".
It allows me to skip that step. I asked about it on several forums and people suggested to skip the step and update after
installation using some update command. I did so and continued with installation and installed Kali on SSD 1TB. But
it doesnt boot. It takes me directly to BIOS. I checked BIOS settings and everything is perfect. I have tried installing
few times with complete different setup and everytime the result is same. It doesnt boot. Note that I am not sure if
Kali gets installed on first place. I assume it does because after installation it says "successfully installed".
There is no graphics card but the processor has in-build graphics. I am no hardware or software expert and have begun my
journey of computer science just now. Please someone help me.
 
@Shiloh Nelson .....why? did you start a topic in the middle of someone elses topic ???

This topic of yours concerns Kali.

Open a fresh topic in the Kali sub forum//......HERE
 
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Your problem is you are trying to install kali Without the necessary experience and knowledge of Linux that is required,
Kali is not a full distribution, in that it doesn't automatically include all available drivers

As you admit to being new to Linux, I am afraid to tell you that you do not have the experience or knowledge to install and run Kali
this from the official Kali introduction

"(…) Kali is a Linux distribution specifically geared towards professional penetration testers and security specialists, and given its unique nature, it is NOT a recommended distribution if you’re unfamiliar with Linux or are looking for a general-purpose Linux desktop distribution for development, web design, gaming, etc. (…)"
 
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Since Kali is based on Debian Testing you have to get the non-free firmware from Debian here - https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/firmware/bookworm/20221010/ - grab the firmware.zip file
now extract the contents to an USB Stick then during install plug in the USB stick with the non-free firmware and Kali should see it and grab the correct files - so that means you will need 2 USB Sticks one for Kali and one for the firmware
or
you can grab the individual deb files from here - https://archive.kali.org/kali/pool/non-free/f/firmware-nonfree/ and install them with Gdebi or QAPT
 
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