U.S. Trades 5 Cybercriminals to Russia in Prisoner Swap ...August 1, 2024
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Traded them to Russia I bet they will soon be employed by the SVR - but enough of politics
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There's potential for some confusion here - and I have no idea what will happen here.
Often when you trade prisoners (which isn't uncommon) it just means you're going to prison in your home country for the duration of your sentence.
I've got no idea what will happen to all of these people but they may not all be going free.
Often when you trade prisoners (which isn't uncommon) it just means you're going to prison in your home country for the duration of your sentence.
I've got no idea what will happen to all of these people but they may not all be going free.
CaffeineAddict
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Hm, interesting but I don't believe in this.
Why would you imprison somebody (and pay for their "upkeep" in prison) who is already imprisoned aboard for free?
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Aristarchus
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I think that this was bad idea. Until now only soldiers were swapped. Now the swap includes civillians too, so next time bad actor will grab any person and request swap for criminals (as it happened this time with the murderer safely returning to Russia).
I thought it means they were incarcerated by a foreign power, and they would be set free back home? The US would have never imprisoned brittany grimer, but hacking is a whole other thing.
Because they're still a criminal.
The home country doesn't always immediately set them free.
Brickwizard
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They will probably be put straight to work in one of those offices in Moscow
CaffeineAddict
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@KGIII
It's not like the US got E.Snowden in swap deal to imprison him who walks free btw. but a journalist and similar folks.
I don't know which individuals Russia got back except one that is apparently valueable to Kremlin so they won't imprison him either.
I don't see any benefit to swap for a person who is a criminal in home country, these are IMO not valuable assests for a swap.
But time will tell.
It's not like the US got E.Snowden in swap deal to imprison him who walks free btw. but a journalist and similar folks.
I don't know which individuals Russia got back except one that is apparently valueable to Kremlin so they won't imprison him either.
I don't see any benefit to swap for a person who is a criminal in home country, these are IMO not valuable assests for a swap.
But time will tell.
LOL Probably but let's be careful to avoid politics.
I doubt that the Russians will imprison any of those let go - but they might for political reasons.
One of the reasons for transfers is the conditions the people are living in. Some prison systems are less than humane environments. They'll transfer the prisoner back to the host country where they'll finish all/part of their sentence.
A good example is people in the military. They've violated laws in other countries and get sentenced. They get shipped back to the US after a decade or so and finish out their sentence in the US. I've personally dealt with a couple of detainees who were in that situation.
I have 100% certainty Russians will be set free on arrival. Zero doubt whatsoever.
The ones with windows and many floors
Depends on the country, obviously.
But the habit is that terrorist countries trade murderers and real-spies to come home, so they can set them free, and even more, encourage them to repeat the same actions (in foreign countries), but tell them to this time not get caught, if possible.
But for the normal countries, not ruled by dictator for example, these people were caught in terrorist countries for no reason at all, they are the bait of the trade, so they call them spies but they are not. So when these people come home : they didn't commit a crime in the terrorist country they were accused of, so why would they be in prison in their home country ?
If there is a trade, there is a 100% certainty something illegal is going on. In almost all cases at least one side is incorrectly accused. On global level, nobody can do anything against this.
The only option there is, is to NOT TRADE ANYBODY.
But that causes other problems, because terrorist countries will continue to capture aliens (people from other countries) and put them in prison for no reason at all. That is what they do. That's why they are terrorist countries. Some are even member of UN security council.
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That's exactly what happened, and they fell for the bait. So, 1 murderer on the loose now.
