This may be of interest to Ubuntu users.

[kc1di]

Cononical Announced you can get extended security updates for your Ubuntu installs for up to 5 machines free.

Canonical Announces General Availability of Ubuntu Pro, Free for Up to 5 PCs - 9to5Linux

Canonical announces the general availability of its Ubuntu Pro subscription with a free tier for up to 5 machines.

9to5linux.com

 

[sphen]

Cononical Announced you can get extended security updates for your Ubuntu installs for up to 5 machines free.

Can you add a little more?

-> Is Ubuntu Pro useful for typical desktop users on Linux.org? Why? Why not?

What has changed? (I thought that hobbyists could already get 3 free installations of Ubuntu Pro. Is this only an increase from 3 to 5 or is there more to it?)

Does it work in the MATE version of Ubuntu?

What if you use it in virtual machines? How can you "give back" one of your 5 free instances before you destroy it?
(Found it: the "pro detach" command, but does it allow you to reuse the token on a new machine?)

Just asking.

 

[forester]

Next, Shuttleworth's baby will cry for money, I can see it coming!

 

[forester]

IMO, LTS is the only way to go with any /buntu! A logical call on Canonical's part.

 

[kc1di]

@sphen wrote:

Is Ubuntu Pro useful for typical desktop users on Linux.org? Why? Why not?

while Ubuntu Pro is aimed mostly at Enterprise and small business. It may be helpful to some Desktop users that want to stay with an older LTS install beyond it's end of support life. It would give two additional years of security support, Etc.

As to it relevance to Linux.org users I'll let others make that call.

 

[sphen]

I learned a lot today already - I thought that Ubuntu MATE LTS was a fully supported release just like the mainstream Ubuntu. After following up with the posts above, I learned that the LTS version (that I run) is supported for Ubuntu security updates for 5 years, but the MATE desktop portion is only supported for three years. Live and learn. Thanks!

I did a lot of searching, but found no indication of whether you can or cannot "return" a pro token for reuse. You might want to do that before you destroy (delete) an Ubuntu Pro virtual machine, for example.

 

[Lord Boltar]

I learned a lot today already - I thought that Ubuntu MATE LTS was a fully supported release just like the mainstream Ubuntu. After following up with the posts above, I learned that the LTS version (that I run) is supported for Ubuntu security updates for 5 years, but the MATE desktop portion is only supported for three years. Live and learn. Thanks!

I did a lot of searching, but found no indication of whether you can or cannot "return" a pro token for reuse. You might want to do that before you destroy (delete) an Ubuntu Pro virtual machine, for example.

All other versions like, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Lubuntu, Budgie are all 3 years as well as far as I know, if you want a 5 year download the netinstaller and install the corresponding desktop - https://ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads and here - https://www.cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/jammy/

 

[forester]

All other versions like, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Lubuntu, Budgie are all 3 years as well as far as I know, if you want a 5 year download the netinstaller and install the corresponding desktop - https://ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads and here - https://www.cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/jammy/

In the link given (Alternative downloads), I notice the mini.iso is no longer available (and KGIII alludes it has not been so for some time). I wonder what the reasong of the Canonical folks was when it was eliminted?!

 

[Lord Boltar]

In the link given (Alternative downloads), I notice the mini.iso is no longer available (and KGIII alludes it has not been so for some time). I wonder what the reasong of the Canonical folks was when it was eliminted?!

the mini.iso was never official it was a by-product and ended with 20.04 now you have to download Ubuntu Server edition - https://ubuntu.com/download/server
for 20.04 the mini.iso can be download here - http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/focal/main/installer-amd64/current/legacy-images/netboot/
it still has a couple years left for updates

 

[Deleted member 137406]

All other versions like, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Lubuntu, Budgie are all 3 years as well as far as I know, if you want a 5 year download the netinstaller and install the corresponding desktop - https://ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads and here - https://www.cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/jammy/

In the link given (Alternative downloads), I notice the mini.iso is no longer available (and KGIII alludes it has not been so for some time). I wonder what the reasong of the Canonical folks was when it was eliminted?!

I don't think the mini iso was ever an official iso download and was stopped when Snap became a major pert of the Ubuntu base.

If I am wrong then please let me know and I'll remove my post.

 

[Lord Boltar]

I don't think the mini iso was ever an official iso download and was stopped when Snap became a major pert of the Ubuntu base.

If I am wrong then please let me know and I'll remove my post.

Future of MinimalCD​

Canonical and the Ubuntu project never officially supported the mini.iso ; it was produced as a by-product of building the debian-installer. As the Ubuntu Server image now uses subiquity, the build process that built mini.iso is no longer used, thus why this installation media is now old.

Installation/MinimalCD - Community Help Wiki

So as you can see Ubuntu Server no longer use ubiquity as an installer it uses subiquity (which is basically an updated ubiquity for the server edition)- does not have anything to do with Snap

 

[KGIII]

There's also a Minimal Install in Ubuntu itself, that might be of interest:

You can start with that, install the DE you want, and then use the ESM (free for a few computers, but maybe more now as I've not yet read the article) to have a stable OS for up to 10 years.

You can also use ESM within the official flavors - but some flavor-specific software might not receive updates.

 

[Deleted member 137406]

I used to use the minimal iso for all of my Ubuntu installs and install the GUI / DE I wanted which made for a nice slim distro nothing more than needed.

Seems the Bionic Beaver was the last Minimal iso I could actually easily find and download.

I didn't know if Snap was the reason or not seems a lot of changes with Snap Ubuntu released.

There's also a Minimal Install in Ubuntu itself, that might be of interest:

You can start with that, install the DE you want, and then use the ESM (free for a few computers, but maybe more now as I've not yet read the article) to have a stable OS for up to 10 years.

You can also use ESM within the official flavors - but some flavor-specific software might not receive updates.

I use the minimal install nowadays cause I don't want or need all of the default software that will never be used needed or wanted.

 

[forester]

I have not installed any /buntu in years and so was unaware of the mini.iso situation (it not being official). Thanks for the updated info, all!

I have a fond memory of early Linux installs on old used PCs where I did a minimal install of lubuntu trying to get some acceptable performance out of an old P4 tower with 2 GB RAM and a miniscule hdd. It did the job with minimal startup software. It was fun, too, at the time.

Times change. I just hate to see useful options taken away.

 

[Deleted member 137406]

I have not installed any /buntu in years and so was unaware of the mini.iso situation (it not being official). Thanks for the updated info, all!

I have a fond memory of early Linux installs on old used PCs where I did a minimal install of lubuntu trying to get some acceptable performance out of an old P4 tower with 2 GB RAM and a miniscule hdd. It did the job with minimal startup software. It was fun, too, at the time.

Times change. I just hate to see useful options taken away.

There's still this option and it is tweaked OOTB to run with minimal system resources or it does on my old Frankenstein boxes.

Revive that old PC! < The LXLE Desktop

LXLE Linux, Revive your old PC. LXLE is a remastered version of Ubuntu/Lubuntu LTS releases, using the LXDE desktop interface. LXLE provides a complete drop in and go operating system coupled with style, speed and capability. It's light on resources and heavy on functions.

lxle.net

If you got old low powered computers it's worth a look imo.

 

[wizardfromoz]

and then use the ESM

Jargon, David ... Extended Service something? lol.

Wiz

 

[forester]

Will look into LXLE. It most likely is systemd, no?

BTW, what is ESM -- extended service mandate?

 

[kc1di]

Will look into LXLE. It most likely is systemd, no?

BTW, what is ESM -- extended service mandate?

LXLE uses systemd.
here is a list of those distro that don't use it.

https://www.slant.co/topics/18348/~linux-distros-that-don-t-use-systemd

I would add to the above list PClinuxOS also.
Here is a link about ESM

Ubuntu Expanded Security Maintenance | Security | Ubuntu

Expanded Security Maintenance provides ongoing Linux security fixes for Ubuntu for the Linux kernel and essential packages beyond the five-year basic maintenance window.

ubuntu.com

 

[KGIII]

Jargon, David ... Extended Service something? lol.

Wiz

Ubuntu Expanded Security Maintenance | Security | Ubuntu

Expanded Security Maintenance provides ongoing Linux security fixes for Ubuntu for the Linux kernel and essential packages beyond the five-year basic maintenance window.

ubuntu.com