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Leigh

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Hi. I'm new here and the forum helped out a few times resolving some issues. I'm not new to Linux really, just haven't had time to play with it much over the past decade. I decided to play with the new Ubuntu 24.04 on a new computer with up to date hardware. The install was quirky and took me a few tries getting Ubuntu up and running. I was initially faced with a few errors most of which had to do with permissions. Frustrating but fixable with some searching. I'm not a Gnome fan so I decided to do something. Basically I removed and disabled snap and added the Trinity repository, an did a minimal Trinity install. I kinda liked Kde 3.5 back in the day. I made sure Trinity loaded and worked and fixed it up a little. Then I completely purged ubuntu desktop and all of Gnome despite so many advising against it in my searching. I expected to run into trouble, but to my surprise all went well. I added quite a few non trinity apps, some from Plasma a few gnome that didnt require a whole lot of dependencies. Trinity works well mixed with a few plasma apps. I thought it would create problems. Adding qt5 config with a good gtk theme all is uniform and looks great. It was an experiment that went so well, i took the time to iron out some bugs. Stress tested everything with some intense bleach bit cleaning and serious apt cleaning, rebooting a ton of times trying to find bugs. Anyway, its solid, on going, and pretty cool. Nostalgic old DE running on state of art hardware. Bluetooth was a pain in butt though! Trinity's blueman backend wouldn't work for me. Removing blueman and connecting Bluetooth using Bluetooth-tools through cli worked like a charm. Setting up a dlna media server was painless. So basically, Trinity is usable and actually very cool. It's light weight compared to many DE's except for Fluxbox maybe, which use to be my fav long ago. Having too much fun with Trinity as a stand alone DE on Ubuntu 24.04. Cannon Printer through wifi connected like a charm. Anyway, It was a shot in the dark experiment that turned out rather cool. .... So Hi everyone :)
 


This would probably be better suited in the 'Member Introductions' section of the site.

I can move it, if you'd like. This is really for questions about getting started and I'm not actually seeing any real questions in your post.
 
My apologies. Sure if that is more appropriate. My mistake. I suppose the question would be, considering feedback in the Ubuntu forums, purging Ubuntu desktop and Gnome wouldn't work, or be more trouble than what it's worth. Perhaps It was just a fluke that the transition went so well?
 
I went ahead and moved it. It's not really a support question or anything like that.

Don't be alarmed. This happens. It's all good.
 
G'day Leigh, Welcome to linux.org
 
Ditto from another Aussie ;)
 
@Leigh :-

Welcome, welcome. Get seated comfortably, and fasten your seatbelt.....'cos you've just launched yourself off the start line on the friendliest, most distro-agnostic and helpful Linux forum on the web. Your feet won't touch the ground..! :D


Mike. ;)
 
Welcome @Leigh ! Ubuntu is a great choice!
 
@Leigh :-

Welcome, welcome. Get seated comfortably, and fasten your seatbelt.....'cos you've just launched yourself off the start line on the friendliest, most distro-agnostic and helpful Linux forum on the web. Your feet won't touch the ground..! :D


Mike. ;)
Thanks! I'm a little rebel. Made every mistake in the book with Linux years ago. What comes with a default install doesn't suit me. I can't help but open the hood an do some rewiring. When I read about not being able to do what I'm wanting to do, within reason, I figure out a way to do it. Backups are a blessing when we are rebels crossing boundaries.
 
A few things that bug me about Ubuntu. I know I'm behind the times but... Snap, no biggy, easy enough to not use or get rid of if we don't want it despite trying to make it non optional.

The constant advertising to subscribe to pro. Is this stuff non proprietary or GPL? Is there a catch to pay for it if we do subscribe? If indeed, not subscribing is an option, where is the option to say no? seems so fishy to me. Removing the nag from appearing during every update is easy enough to do, but requires editing/deleting some files. Hmmm. Why the forced nagging? An option to say "no" should be incorporated to halt the pro nagging. It's Linux, not Windows.

Deferred packages when updating. Ubuntu is a testing release now? I do a little research on the deferred packages and just force them to update if all seems cool, but it just seems odd. If indeed these packages are in a testing phase, and we use ubuntu to avoid testing and stay stable. Why throw them in apt to confuse us? As if to say... this is what you could get if your a tester kinda thing?, hehe

Sorry... it's the rebel in me. I shouldn't question such stuff?
 
The constant advertising to subscribe to pro.
It's Linux, not Windows.
Amen to that, I didn't know it, but now I don't want to be distro basher again, there is thread about bashing distros.
It is however one more reason why I dislike certain distros.

Sorry... it's the rebel in me. I shouldn't question such stuff?
No, I think we should expose all weaknesses of any distro, not just sharing good stuff about them.
Sadly some things about some distros are also political in nature which would be funny do discuss but we're not allowed.
 
The constant advertising to subscribe to pro. Is this stuff non proprietary or GPL? Is there a catch to pay for it if we do subscribe? If indeed, not subscribing is an option, where is the option to say no? seems so fishy to me. Removing the nag from appearing during every update is easy enough to do, but requires editing/deleting some files. Hmmm. Why the forced nagging? An option to say "no" should be incorporated to halt the pro nagging. It's Linux, not Windows.
I think there is a command for it.
Code:
sudo pro config set apt_news=false
Remember Cananocial is a company who's goal is to make money. One of those ways is selling Pro subsciprtions, but if I remember correctly you can use Pro for personal use as well and I think it's free for personal use for serveral systems.

Myself
Free, personal subscription for 5 machines for you or any business you own, or 50 machines for active Ubuntu Community members. If you need phone support or need to cover more than 5 machines, please select "My organisation"
 
Deferred packages when updating. Ubuntu is a testing release now? I do a little research on the deferred packages and just force them to update if all seems cool, but it just seems odd. If indeed these packages are in a testing phase, and we use ubuntu to avoid testing and stay stable.
 
I wouldn't call it distro bashing really. Just Ugh... when Linux becomes more like proprietary, we should all complain regardless of the distro itself. They all are suppose to represent Linux regardless of being different? Now we have to choose which is proprietary / non free to some degree? I agree.. politics corrupts everything these days. It's a shame.
 
IMO should be the default, or a separate distro like fedora and RHEL.
Fedora isn't owned by Redhat, since Fedora is still a community distribution but Redhat does put a lot of resources into Fedora. To get a similar situation there would have to be a community distribution where Ubuntu is based off of and isn't owned by Canonical but run by the community but where Canonical could still put enough resources in to have a bit of influence for Ubuntu. That way you would get a similar situation. However I don't think it's realistiscly possible currently because Ubuntu is based off of Debian which is already a community distribution.
 

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