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Removing Windows 10 (DBAN) and using Linux

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  1. CherryFive

    CherryFive New Member

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    Hi there and thanks in advance to anyone who reads this,
    I've always been a Windows user. Last year I bought a new Laptop, a Dell Inspiron 15. It came pre-loaded with Windows 10, which is what I'm using to type this message.

    Since day 1, I have hated this system with a serious passion. I hate, hate, hate, hate Windows 10. I want to kill my computer. I swear to god there are many times at home where Win 10 is jamming up and my youtube radio dies, and I have to power my free Obamaphone to play youtube to get me through the quiet lol. It's pretty sad that a crappy phone is more alive than my computer.

    Anyway, back in the old XP days, I had a Dell laptop that came with the Re-install disks, and the product key/code was written on the bottom of the machine. If the computer was slow and buggy, I could just run DBAN, completely kill the hard-drive, re-install XP and have a like-new computer.


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    Of course, Windows 10 sucks such a giant egg that it didn't come with install disks even though I paid a lot more for this computer.

    So I'm just done with Windows and their stupid crap. There are 10 million other reasons I hate Windows 10, but I'm sure you've all heard about its bugs.

    I'm not computer literate, but realize I need to take action. This has become a serious war in my mind, and I'm tired of these corporations sticking it to me. I want Microsoft out of my life for good, and I want any trace of its shitty software off of my computer.

    The problem is, I know how to use DBAN and wipe my computer, but after that I'm lost. I've heard I can just burn a Linux disk, but the question is A) What Linux should I get? I just want a super light, quick OS that is bare bones.

    B) Will the Linux software connect to my Wifi hardware? Does all the hardware like keys typing work right off the bat, or does that have to be coded in? I keep reading that Linux is "good if you like writing code". Really? I don't really like that. I just want an OS that connects to my Wifi, I can cruise online and do some typing for God's sake. I don't know how this computer technology got so out of hand in terms of usability for the average dullard like me. Thanks well in advance for any tips so I can get this Windows nonsense off of my machine!
     
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    First bear in mind that your warranty will be likely voided due to removing the Windows 10 installation.

    Now that in mind, next up is which type you want. Linux Mint is probably your best bet as it's both user and hardware friendly (meaning it have the most array of hardware that would works with it). Though I am sure there a few other types that may be worth the look.

    Then as far as hardware goes even though Linux Mint is quite reliable in this department some hardware just won't works out of the box. That is why I "test" this on any pre built systems by playing around in the installation (LiveCD (that what it called even if your using your USB to do the installation).

    Before you stick it in though, you will have to boot into the BIOS/UFEI (or whatever the new one is called). To do this just search "(insert laptop brand and model type) how to change boot order" then it will tell you. Do that then shut it down once more. Put in the boot able stick that you made and then fire it up again to start the installation. At this point you then do the testing as above.

    If Wifi won't works though you should be able to buy a dongle from a place like Panda Wireless to get the job done. I can confirm that both a low end and high end model (I THINK the PAU05 and the PAU09 for sure) both does works on Linux Mint 18.3 on kernel 4.15.0.43.

    I won't be back awhile but hopefully it give you a start or at least some help!
     
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  3. wizardfromoz

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    How much RAM have you got Cherry?

    (Wizard appears in a puff of smoke)

    G'day and welcome to linux.org :). I am from DownUnder so I will be around at different times.

    Chris Turner
    wizardfromoz

    #1 gets my vote for best rant of 2019 :D:cool: back soon
     
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    #1....best rant of 2019.......[​IMG]

    ....and we hear some goodies here !!!

    questions questions ....lots of them. You see, we REALLY like to make sure you are content with WIPING win 10.

    There are SO many variables

    Just to make you think a bit....

    1 What pictures, music, documents do you NEED to save from win 10 ?
    (if there are any, copy and paste or drag and drop them to an external hard drive or usb stick)
    (if it is music...I can show you how to download any piece of music from youtube, absolutely free. )

    2 If you find that Linux is not your cup of tea....simply download win 10 again....and install it. It will wipe Linux itself...no need for dban etc etc. You will need to have your product key handy etc

    3 I am noting that you do not wish to dual boot Linux with win 10. You Just want the LINUX OS on your pc.

    4 @wizardfromoz will no doubt be back here shortly with a lengthy tome for you to digest. Read all our suggestions and then make a clear decision

    Your major decision will be which Linux

    wizard (Chris) will guide you through sucking the info from your current win 10....what hardware is present, any partitions on the hard drive etc etc

    WHICH ONE.
    Linux Mint is the easiest and probably the best supported. It comes with THREE DE's (desktop environments).......which simply means there are three different looks !!....they will each have slightly different icons and the menu will look different on each one. Dont Panic......they are ALL quite familiar to windows users.

    the three are : linux mint cinnamon....I run this...it does pretty much everything
    linux mint mate....i believe this is wizards favourite.....i have no idea why
    linux mint xfce....lightweight. very fast. not as many 'features ' as the other two

    Just to give you an idea......if you chose linux mint cinnamon....and then thought you would like to try linux mint xfce...????....what to do ???/........just download the xfce, and try it !!!!....install it just the same is the cinnamon......they are Free

    ok
    enough rant for now. More later
     
  5. wizardfromoz

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    My ears are burning, but I have to scoot for my night imminently.

    Take a look at these from distrowatch.com 's Page Hit Ranking, and we'll talk more on my tomorrow - you may have to scroll a little

    [​IMG]

    Interesting is that Manjaro has been clocking the figures of Mint and Ubuntu combined for 12 months now, further, MX-Linux (currently on 18) is about to overtake Manjaro.

    I use 8 out of the top 10 (I run 60 - 80 Linux on two rigs).

    Later

    Wizard
     
  6. CherryFive

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    I can tell you guys are real genuine and nice. I can't believe the overwhelming level of help I got just asking on the forum! As far as best rant for 2019, hmm, there's still time for someone to rant better lol. You should have seen the cursing/expletive lines I took out before posting it!

    Anyway, I really do have a problem with Win 10, my words were real. So I went down the rabbit hole last night reading about Linux, and then I realized I have a few major computer uses I never listed in my initial post. There are four programs I forgot to list I need support for:

    -Gimp (seems to have a Linux build)
    -Reaper (has a Linux build...though it's quite new..)
    -My external sound-card, which uses the UR22 Steinberg driver (possibly works on Linux?)
    -Scorecloud (which I have to use for my composition class. No Linux build).

    So, basically I need to really keep doing more reading. Reaper seems it will work, but the last two seem to be a snag. I didn't realize using a DAW on Linux would be such a nightmare...I assumed Reaper and Linux would be bros. But evidently not. They FINALLY just released a Linux version last year, and it's said to be "experimental".

    I think the next option I need to look into is throwing my computer in the trash. Anyone agree?

    Seriously thanks for all the help. I wish the reel-to-reel tape forum I'm on was this dang helpful!

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    John
    https://soundcloud.com/johns-music-2
     
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    Hey John :)

    GIMP is, effectively Linux, it is free and open-source software (aka FOSS), which just happens to be cross-platform, you will find it everywhere in Linux. Its history makes for a good read -

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GIMP

    I'll take a look at the others tomorrow my time.

    Cheers

    Chris
     
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    Likely - support for it was introduced to the Linux kernel with v3.16 or so - we are around 4.15 nowadays. Vendor name reference will be Yamaha.

    Scorecloud - no ... might run under WINE.

    Wiz
     
  9. JasKinasis

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    There are some free/libre DAW's available for Linux:
    The main two of note are LMMS (Linux Multi-Media System) and Ardour.

    Ardour is an excellent hard-disk recorder type program - more or less equivalent to Pro-tools, Cubase, Logic etc. Great for recording music and recording bands, but not so good for composition, or transcription.

    Whereas LMMS is more of a pattern based program, with some built in synths - I think you can use external instruments too - but it is more suitable for dance or electronica type compositions. Can be used in conjunction with Ardour - export your tracks as a .wav and then import them into Ardour to overdub vocals or additional instruments.

    There are also composition tools like Rosegarden - which can use additional software like lilypond to output sheet music to PDF files. And various other virtual instruments like Hydrogen (drum machine), Guitarix (virtual guitar stack), tux-guitar which is a guitar tab editor/player. Drumburp - a drum-tab editor and player.

    You might also want to look at installing JACK (Jack Audio Connection Kit) - which can be used to route audio and MIDI between hardware, software and virtual devices.

    Most of the Linux music production software is JACK enabled and there are additional JACK plugins you can download (auto-tune, various meters/monitors, virtual keyboard, synths etc.) - plus various collections of audio plugins/filters to use with Ardour or LMMS in various formats - e.g. LADSPA, VST's etc.

    There are also a number of Linux distros geared towards creating music.
    e.g. Ubuntu Studio, Musix, KXStudio, AVLinux, Apodio, ioGnuLinux, artistx, openartist etc. etc.
    These all come with a lot of audio/music production software pre-installed and configured. Several of them also include a lot of free graphics and video software too - so you have a complete pipeline for creating almost any kind of multimedia content.
     
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