thank you condobloke, im running xubuntu and solus on another plus learning python; other os downloaded that im gonna explore, i have had and issue with getting kali to install correctly checksum error but ive also downloaded blackarch and parrot os haven't started those yet im still learning a lot of things windows doesn't show u, im good at researching things but this has been the easiest info to find kind of lol. thank u again any and all info is useful