Long loading system!

krymzkiy

New Member
Hi all, anyone familiar with Linux mint? I have a problem - a long loading system(about 5-7 minutes)
I Use a MacBook 4.1 early 2008.
Before that was manjaro linux, this problem was not.
 


poorguy

Well-Known Member
Hello krymzkiy,

Welcome to the forums.

Knowing exact system specs would be a good thing.

Open the Terminal an copy and paste this command.

inxi -Fxz

How to open terminal.

Linux Mint Cinnamon:
Menu - Administration - Terminal

Linux Mint MATE:

Menu - Terminal

Linux Mint Xfce:
Menu button - System - Xfce Terminal (Terminal Emulator)



Copy and Paste the output in a post.

Linux Mint any version has always booted slow from my experience although I use 8 year old and 10 year old junk computers with Core 2 Duo processors and 4.0 GB ddr2 ram.
 

krymzkiy

New Member
System: Host: krymzkiy-MacBook Kernel: 4.15.0-36-generic x86_64
bits: 64 gcc: 7.3.0
Desktop: MATE 1.20.1 (Gtk 3.22.30-1ubuntu1)
Distro: Linux Mint 19 Tara
Machine: Device: unknown System: Apple product: MacBook4 1 v: 1.0 serial: N/A
Mobo: Apple model: Mac-F22788A9 v: PVT serial: N/A
UEFI: Apple v: MB41.88Z.00C1.B00.0802091535 date: 02/09/08
Battery BAT0: charge: 23.4 Wh 64.1% condition: 36.5/56.2 Wh (65%)
model: SCDA ASMB013 status: Charging
CPU: Dual core Intel Core2 Duo T8300 (-MCP-)
arch: Penryn rev.6 cache: 3072 KB
flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 ssse3 vmx) bmips: 9577
clock speeds: max: 2400 MHz 1: 2015 MHz 2: 2000 MHz
Graphics: Card: Intel Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (primary)
bus-ID: 00:02.0
Display Server: x11 (X.Org 1.19.6 )
drivers: modesetting (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
Resolution: [email protected]
OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel 965GM
version: 2.1 Mesa 18.0.5 Direct Render: Yes
Audio: Card Intel 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller
driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1b.0
Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.15.0-36-generic
Network: Card-1: Broadcom Limited BCM4321 802.11a/b/g/n
driver: wl bus-ID: 02:00.0
IF: wls4 state: up mac: <filter>
Card-2: Marvell 88E8058 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller
driver: sky2 v: 1.30 port: 5000 bus-ID: 03:00.0
IF: ens5 state: down mac: <filter>
Drives: HDD Total Size: 128.0GB (17.7% used)
ID-1: /dev/sda model: SAMSUNG_MZYLF128 size: 128.0GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 112G used: 18G (17%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/dm-1
ID-2: /boot size: 705M used: 152M (24%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda2
ID-3: swap-1 size: 4.27GB used: 0.00GB (0%)
fs: swap dev: /dev/dm-3
RAID: No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 45.0C mobo: N/A
Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info: Processes: 240 Uptime: 10:54 Memory: 955.0/3925.9MB
Init: systemd runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 7.3.0
Client: Shell (bash 4.4.191) inxi: 2.3.56

Hello krymzkiy,

Welcome to the forums.

Knowing exact system specs would be a good thing.

Open the Terminal an copy and paste this command.

inxi -Fxz

How to open terminal.

Linux Mint Cinnamon:
Menu - Administration - Terminal

Linux Mint MATE:

Menu - Terminal

Linux Mint Xfce:
Menu button - System - Xfce Terminal (Terminal Emulator)



Copy and Paste the output in a post.

Linux Mint any version has always booted slow from my experience although I use 8 year old and 10 year old junk computers with Core 2 Duo processors and 4.0 GB ddr2 ram.
 

poorguy

Well-Known Member
Hello krymzkiy,


Your components appear to be pretty standard components and I see nothing that is any different than in any other PC.

Here is your processor specs.
https://ark.intel.com/products/33099/Intel-Core2-Duo-Processor-T8300-3M-Cache-2_40-GHz-800-MHz-FSB

Here is the graphics and memory controller specs.
https://ark.intel.com/products/29821/Intel-82GM965-Graphics-and-Memory-Controller

I believe the long startup time is just a characteristic of Linux Mint and as long as the system runs well without problems in normal use I wouldn't worry about boot time.

Power off and restart your PC and copy and paste this command in the terminal and it should give you your startup time.

systemd-analyze

Post your results.

Here is mine and it isn't fast and I'm using Lubuntu 18.04 LTS.

$ systemd-analyze
Startup finished in 4.411s (kernel) + 57.520s (userspace) = 1min 1.931s
graphical.target reached after 29.161s in userspace
$

From your posted specs it appears that you are using Linux Mint 19 Mate.

I would suggest to give this a good look at and understand exactly what the tweaks do prior to applying any of them.

https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/mint-mate-first
 
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Condobloke

Well-Known Member
Which kernel are you using ?

Run the following in a terminal

Code:
uname -r
If it says 4.15.0-24 then reboot, after the bios screen/logo press shift to get into GRUB boot menu, select advanced, select a lower version kernel ...or even a higher version if you have any...

Assuming the boot now went fine, open Update Manager > View > Linux Kernels and remove the -24 kernel. Don't install that version again, I am currently running 4.15.0-36
 
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wizardfromoz

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Been on a 600 km road trip, late for the party :)

(Wizard appears, breathless, in a puff of smoke)

Welcome @krymzkiy to linux.org :D

I think we may be barking up the wrong tree here - 5-7 mins boot time is unacceptable in my books, but I would like to see what improvement if any is made by the OP (original poster) taking the advice already given.

If there is no improvement I would be looking at start jobs that are running at bootup that may take 1 min 30 secs or more to complete and what we can do between examining /etc/fstab and looking at logs to identify the culprit.

Two questions though, @krymzkiy :
  1. Is Mint the only OS on your Macbook or are you dualbooting with MacOS? If he is dualbooting he will already have a Grub Menu
  2. If Mint is the only OS we can show you how to make Grub visible at startup and make that permanent, it is handy to have for troubleshooting purposes.
  3. Are you a user of an Image Hosting site such as imgur.com, photobucket &c. Then you can take screenshots and post them here.
  4. I am guessing a young fellow like you knows how to post a video to youtube, is that so?
Wizard flunked arithmetic, that's 4 questions :rolleyes:

Cheers

Chris Turner
wizardfromoz
 

Condobloke

Well-Known Member
....and.....just to give you directions re start up jobs.....

click on menu...type in startup applications.......this should show you exactly what is starting at bootup time

You can either give us a list of take a screenshot and paste it here in your next reply.

need help with any of that ?....just tell us which bit.
 

krymzkiy

New Member
Oh, I forgot about this forum. Thank you all for your help! I've found another solution: switching to Arch Linux, that boots up in a few secons.
 

Vrai

Active Member
Oh, I forgot about this forum. Thank you all for your help! I've found another solution: switching to Arch Linux, that boots up in a few secons.
Well by-golly that's one solution!
5 to 7 minutes is way too long barring a hardware problem.
I was going to mention something I read several years ago regarding IPv6 in the network manager causing long delays during startup. Something about searching for an IPv6 connection which was not available. Solution - disable IPv6 (if memory serves ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ).
It appears Arch got it sorted though.
 

JasKinasis

Well-Known Member
It might even be a systemd related thing.
I've noticed a lot of gradual slowdowns on startup on my Debian laptop.

Before Debian introduced systemd - it always booted really quickly.
Since systemd was introduced - the boot times have gotten longer and longer.

From analysing and charting the boot process - it seems to be down to several systemd services that are waiting for other services to come up before they can start properly.

But I'm not going to spend hours (or days, or weeks) trying to work out how to make systemd bring the services up in a more sane order.
For now - I'll just put up with the slightly longer boot time!

I've been meaning to take a look at the systemd journal too - to see if there are any error messages in there that might give some clues about what I can do to speed up the boot times.
 
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