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Sup, new here.

Little about me, webdesigner, internet marketer. Always wanted to play around with linux, particular (ethical) hacking but never got to it. Now I'm in my 40's and starting to feel like im getting too old to start but F it. :)

But yeah, starting with the basics, starting with basic linux and basic python.

Not going to use my main computer as I do a lot of other things on it but my uncle gave me an intel nuc once that was collecting dust. Gonna drop Kali on it and see how it goes. Unfortunately already expering troubles with it, it has Zorin on it, I had a kodachi USB lying around and even though it boots on my laptop, on this nuc it will not boot kodachi, it always drops me to a screen where it promps initramfs.

Anyway, eager too learn so probably be here often from now.

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Welcome to the community @Linuxnub! Great to have you here! I hope you aren't going to be running Kali as a daily driver for your desktop?
 
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Welcome to the community @Linuxnub! Great to have you here! I hope you aren't going to be running Kali as a daily driver for your desktop?
Thnx. Not on my main computer no, that's for webdesign, SEO, IM, gaming etc gonna install kali on that intel nuc or laptop. And using kodachi on a live boot. :)
 
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Go to this section.
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it has Zorin on it
good start, dose zorin boot up ok.. and is it internet connected? if answer to both is yes can you run in a terminal inxi -Fnxz [inxispace-Fnx] and paste the results back here [it will tell us all about the box and its components

if inxi is not installed it will normally install with terminal command apt install inxi

bwiz

Oh and in your 40's sounds a bit young to many of us
 

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Welcome to Linux.org.

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Certainly not a distro for beginners. Probably only for people who are going to do penetration (oooh) testing!

Definitely not for me as I am wondering how you do penetration testing with network services disabled!
 

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Definitely not for me as I am wondering how you do penetration testing with network services disabled!
well if you have basically a clone of your web on local host say in apache ; and that as changes are made locally they are then they are pushed to live, then its possible to do penetration testing on local with no newtwork and see if the web shakes or not.


What comes up locally is also what you would expect to happen if someone did pentesting on your live site.

So for instance you can set up local ,so that landing page is say 127.0.0.2 using virtual host. Then you fire up zap from owasp and you can use the url of 127.0.0.2 to attack it . The url 127.0.0.2 is a web app of a CMS written on top of CodeIgniter4 and another one 127.0.0.x is a install of Wordpress on localhost. I can i use wpscan locally and show that virgin install of W.P without appropriate plugins are wide open to attack. Now i've never needed kali to do this since zap can be run from Desktop via a shell and command something along lines of ./zap.sh and wpscan just launched from menu. wpscan can be installed on Arch my current OS and also Slackware current , my previous OS but @Linuxembourg the key thing to remember if you are going to do penetration (oooh things) you must go out and buy yourself , white and gray hats or a hoodie
 
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Oh and in your 40's sounds a bit young to many of us
Not if you have to start from scratch. Most of you probably started already in the 80's, 90's and even though I was also working with the first desktops back then, not for learning linux unfortunately.

I might install Mint on one device and I'll make a bootable kali then.

Probably only for people who are going to do penetration (oooh) testing!
I'm very much interested in that :) Cybersecurity.
 

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well if you have basically a clone of your web on local host say in apache ; and that as changes are made locally they are then they are pushed to live, then its possible to do penetration testing on local with no newtwork and see if the web shakes or not.


What comes up locally is also what you would expect to happen if someone did pentesting on your live site.

So for instance you can set up local ,so that landing page is say 127.0.0.2 using virtual host. Then you fire up zap from owasp and you can use the url of 127.0.0.2 to attack it . The url 127.0.0.2 is a web app of a CMS written on top of CodeIgniter4 and another one 127.0.0.x is a install of Wordpress on localhost. I can i use wpscan locally and show that virgin install of W.P without appropriate plugins are wide open to attack. Now i've never needed kali to do this since zap can be run from Desktop via a shell and command something along lines of ./zap.sh and wpscan just launched from menu. wpscan can be installed on Arch my current OS and also Slackware current , my previous OS but @Linuxembourg the key thing to remember if you are going to do penetration (oooh things) you must go out and buy yourself , white and gray hats or a hoodie

Weirdly obvious as soon as you started to explain. I’d always thought of it as done on live sites. I kind of naively imagine that if I was a kali expert I could break into neighbours WiFi and stuff.

I suppose that’d be possible with enough knowledge (and poor enough neighbour security) no matter the OS.
 

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We have some older users who have just recently started their Linux journey. Heck, we have one old fella in his late 80s or early 90s that's learning to program in C or C++. (I forget the specifics and am a bit feverish.)
 

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yeah thats Charlie who successfully installed Mint and seems to have got great use from it.

Cyber security pentesting is a vast subject. Web is really only what i'm interested in, and keeping my laptop clean of malware . A typical scenario for people with web sites is they do no pentesting , use WordPress and stick it up live .

A friend of mine was even so naïve to use the word "admin" as a user. he told me he got hacked !

Main things i at least try to minimize risk on a web site are CSRF and sql injection, which I can test for see weakness locally and harden before web goes live.
 
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yeah thats Charlie who successfully installed Mint and seems to have got great use from it.

Cyber security pentesting is a vast subject. Web is really only what i'm interested in, and keeping my laptop clean of malware . A typical scenario for people with web sites is they do no pentesting , use WordPress and stick it up live .

A friend of mine was even so naïve to use the word "admin" as a user. he told me he got hacked !

Main things i at least try to minimize risk on a web site are CSRF and sql injection, which I can test for see weakness locally and harden before web goes live.
I have many WordPress website but never been hacked. I host them myself through cloudservers. Server wise I got fail2ban, an extra firewall and a WAF.

Then on WP for the login I got 2FA and a WP firewall. Been doing it's job so far but I can't wait to learn how to pen test my own site lol.
 

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Welcome to the group Linuxnub :)
 

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I have many WordPress website but never been hacked. I host them myself through cloudservers. Server wise I got fail2ban, an extra firewall and a WAF.

Then on WP for the login I got 2FA and a WP firewall. Been doing it's job so far but I can't wait to learn how to pen test my own site lol.
give me one url and i will put my white hat on and see if anything comes up !
 

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yeah thats Charlie who successfully installed Mint and seems to have got great use from it.

Cyber security pentesting is a vast subject. Web is really only what i'm interested in, and keeping my laptop clean of malware . A typical scenario for people with web sites is they do no pentesting , use WordPress and stick it up live .

A friend of mine was even so naïve to use the word "admin" as a user. he told me he got hacked !

Main things i at least try to minimize risk on a web site are CSRF and sql injection, which I can test for see weakness locally and harden before web goes live.
@captain-sensible @Linuxnub and all the ships at sea!!! {or forum readers}
Welcome Linuxnub.
Yep, just passed the 87th birthday a couple weeks ago.
I got a chuckle out of Nubs' 'too old' comment. LOL.
Been using Linux Mint since about 2016. Have dabbled with several other distros but am very comfortable with Mint. It has what I need.
A few years ago I had about 15 or 16 diff distros on one machine just for the heck of it.
Been trying to get familiar with C programming and also BASH scripting for a while. Seems like it goes in one eye and out the other without staying around like it did when I was younger - like in my 60s. LOL. I'm glad to see @Jarret B writing some articles on BASH scripts. That will help this old geezer. Thanks JB.
From time to time I have tried learning Vi and Emacs. Maybe this winter I can begin using one of those editors.
I'm glad I decided never to retire {when I was 15 years old}. One of my good decisions in life. As long as I live I will continue to learn something every day.
I see I'm getting philosophical again so it's time to close.
Once again, welcome Nub!
Old Geezer,
Tango Charlie,
AKA charlie.corder
 
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@captain-sensible @Linuxnub and all the ships at sea!!! {or forum readers}
Welcome Linuxnub.
Yep, just passed the 87th birthday a couple weeks ago.
I got a chuckle out of Nubs' 'too old' comment. LOL.
Been using Linux Mint since about 2016. Have dabbled with several other distros but am very comfortable with Mint. It has what I need.
A few years ago I had about 15 or 16 diff distros on one machine just for the heck of it.
Been trying to get familiar with C programming and also BASH scripting for a while. Seems like it goes in one eye and out the other without staying around like it did when I was younger - like in my 60s. LOL. I'm glad to see @Jarret B writing some articles on BASH scripts. That will help this old geezer. Thanks JB.
From time to time I have tried learning Vi and Emacs. Maybe this winter I can begin using one of those editors.
I'm glad I decided never to retire {when I was 15 years old}. One of my good decisions in life. As long as I live I will continue to learn something every day.
I see I'm getting philosophical again so it's time to close.
Once again, welcome Nub!
Old Geezer,
Tango Charlie,
AKA charlie.corder
Very cool and inspiring to read.
 

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Now I'm in my 40's and starting to feel like im getting too old to start but F it.
G'day and welcome
What has age got to do with it? But that is the right attitude to have though to learn something new. Eff it I'm gonna do it. As you can see a lot of us are far from the days of our youth but relishing the challenges that this Operating system gives us. I wish you well in your journey on the Linux road. :cool::D
 
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