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When do you think Kali 2025.1 should be released?
Condobloke
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sometime in 2035
CaffeineAddict
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There are 4 releases per year I think, therefore it should be this month.
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I'm waiting for Kali 2025.1 to come out, so I make a new USB stick and reinstall Kali from scratch because in my opinion what I currently have installed it is compromised (2024.4)
CaffeineAddict
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compromised? how?
you don't need to wait, simply reinstall system and then update with
aptbtw. for the last week I'm seriously considering to switch from Debian to Kali as daily driver.
Reason is simple, Kali pulls packages from Debian testing and experimental so I'll have latest packages while preserving Debian environment.
Secondly Kali no longer has issues that it used to have that prevented people from using it as daily driver.
And last but not least, I want to boost my skills beyond just Linux and capitalize on existing skills.
Just install or switch to Debian testing repos then?
CaffeineAddict
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Not an option because Debian testing still contains a lot of outdated packages.
Kali however doesn't use only testing packages, many of them are from upstream repos, mostly those which are out of date in testing.
I just see no better Debian based alternative that is also rolling-release.
You would have to remove all the stuff you don't use if you installed Kali other option is depending on of what newer packages you want is that you could use Flatpaks for those packages, those are mostly up-to-date with upstream.
CaffeineAddict
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Not really, I'll use netinstaller and install minimal system and minimal desktop, and then add stuff later as needed.
I really don't like flatpak. too much clutter for my taste.
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I have been using kali Linux for a long time as a daily driver, and I assure you that it is a great thing and you will never regret it. (and if anyone advise against this I don't care)
Kali forever <3
I'v never noticed that Kali had a minimal installer as I thought the whole idea of Kali is that you get recent packages and all the security and pen-testing packages with it. I'll install it in a vm again one of these days to see how that is.
CaffeineAddict
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I also was of opinion how Kali is not to be used as daily driver, but realized it's all just one big hoax that get repeated all over the internet like a broken record.
I did my research and I'm sure it can be used as daily driver just fine.
All of them, I'm sick of Debian's stable system policy, KDE plasma 6 has been released but Trixie which will be released in next 3 months will ship with old Plasma 5, this bothers me the most and is one of the major reasons I'll leave Debian behind.
Yeah, it has netinst.iso image just like Debian for installation over internet. and if you want you can install it without any pentesting tools at all during "select software" phase, you can even install it without desktop and then later install minimal desktop package.
I think it probably has to with all the I want to be hacker type posts please help me with Kali or something like that.
CaffeineAddict
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That's true, there are too many silly and basic questions about Kali that is really the only reason why people dislike Kali.
One presumably programmer on stackoverflow once said how Kali isn't fit for installing VSCode because it's pentesting distro, but lol, the guy forgot that without programming there is no serious pentesting. so much about how even experts provide wrong advices.
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I have installed Kali Linux 2024.4 (with all the tools) for a long time alongside two other LInux distributions, but I almost always use Kali.
Dual boot Ubuntu with Kali Linux [Step-by-Step] | GoLinuxCloud
Step by step instructions to dual boot Ubuntu with Kali Linux. Choose default boot menu.
www.golinuxcloud.com
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CaffeineAddict
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I'm considering dual boot, but probably won't because it will only take space.I have installed Kali Linux 2024.4 (with all the tools) for a long time alongside two other LInux distributions, but I almost always use Kali.
Dual boot Ubuntu with Kali Linux [Step-by-Step] | GoLinuxCloud
Step by step instructions to dual boot Ubuntu with Kali Linux. Choose default boot menu.
Another distro I'm considering is Arch, but I like
apt and connection with Debian style of packaging and policies even though it's outdated.Only thing I don't like is zsh shell even though it's more advanced
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I have installed Kali alongside Debian12 and Peppermint OS.I'm considering dual boot, but probably won't because it will only take space.
Another distro I'm considering is Arch, but I likeaptand connection with Debian style of packaging and policies even though it's outdated.
Only thing I don't like is zsh shell even though it's more advanced
CaffeineAddict
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That's fine if you don't install too much of software, my current Debian install consumes 275GB.
Dual boot will mean either duplication of that or frequent switch from main OS to another one which is not convenient.
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The last operating system you install takes the GRUB, but if you prefer another one, you just have to use Timeshift and restore the operating system you want and this will take the GRUB.
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My hard disk has 500GB total and divided by three partitions are about 166 GB per partition, which depends on the software you have to install (I created a larger partition for Kali (about 200GB) because I use it as a daily driver)
Depending on the total space of the hard disk I think it is better to dual boot two Linux operating systems (and not three)
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