Internet passports / goodbye anonymity

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As the title suggests, we're creeping further towards internet passports, just as I predicted...

Okay:

Tell me this isn't a stepping stone. Please. Yes "slippery slope" is considered logically fallacious, but that's my hill to die on because I have been predicting this for about 20 years, maybe more (just as I predicted many things that have come to pass -- and I regret not writing a book about it). Before anyone thinks, "paranoia", let's sum things up, starting with the general anti-privacy sentiments and lack of privacy concerns socially engineered into modern society. Points worth considering.

1. Bills holding ISPs responsible for users, requiring them to attempt to track users activity.
2. Services requiring proof of ID such as driver's license, ID card/book, phone number, etc. outside the scope of their needs/compliance.
3. Google, Facebook and others rollout "Sign-in with..." utility to bypass the need to signup (this is where I started soiling myself).
4. Google/MS/Xiaomi/Apple -- to name a few -- account required to use the phone/tablet you own, you paid for.
5. Microsoft now has built-in AI that you 'can' disable... yet you can't uninstall it (w/o hackery).
6. Now this...

I got one thing wrong: I never though AI would be involved, I always figured social-engineerings with words like child p___, terrorism, organised crime, etc. would be used to pull the wool over the public's eyes. I envisioned websites needing to register with authorities and "KYC" all users. As the thought matured, I wondered about a digital ID provided by an ISP and delivered to a mandated tracking system on websites, or possibly DNSes. Thank fk for TOR... kinda, we know it's not a silverbullet.

Don't kid yourself, we lost our anonymity years back
Yeah, but it wasn't so in-you-face as it will be. There was accountability. It wasn't so public. And most of all, people just weren't as complicit, even with the scare tactics. This time they will be. This will make it easier.
If you're doing nothing wrong, you have nothing to hide
Worst POV this and last century. Damned straight I have plenty, plenty to hide. Nothing immoral by my code, nothing terribly illegal (depending on country), most of all nothing that harms others. But I value my privacy. I value the part of my humanity capable of being self-conscious in an increasingly shameless, "self-unaware" world.

Now we may be able to go on using alternative libre services, but how long until they're attacked by AI spam bots? Until the quality of these platforms degrades? Remember Bitchute started out well-intentioned as a free-speech Youtube, now it's a cesspool of conspiracy theories, extremist politics and questionable material (if it's still around, lol). So they'll have us by the gonads because AI is going to destroy platforms without sufficient guards and their are LLMs designed to take other LLM outputs and make them "less detectable".

PS: Operator if you care: https://techcrunch.com/2025/01/23/o...an-ai-agent-that-performs-tasks-autonomously/ (just another AI assistant)
 
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As the title suggests, we're creeping further towards internet passports, just as I predicted...

Okay:

Tell me this isn't a stepping stone. Please. Yes "slippery slope" is considered logically fallacious, but that's my hill to die on because I have been predicting this for about 20 years, maybe more (just as I predicted many things that have come to pass -- and I regret not writing a book about it). Before anyone thinks, "paranoia", let's sum things up, starting with the general anti-privacy sentiments and lack of privacy concerns socially engineered into modern society. Points worth considering.

1. Bills holding ISPs responsible for users, requiring them to attempt to track users activity.
2. Services requiring proof of ID such as driver's license, ID card/book, phone number, etc. outside the scope of their needs/compliance.
3. Google, Facebook and others rollout "Sign-in with..." utility to bypass the need to signup (this is where I started soiling myself).
4. Google/MS/Xiaomi/Apple -- to name a few -- account required to use the phone/tablet you own, you paid for.
5. Microsoft now has built-in AI that you 'can' disable... yet you can't uninstall it (w/o hackery).
6. Now this...

I got one thing wrong: I never though AI would be involved, I always figured social-engineerings with words like child p___, terrorism, organised crime, etc. would be used to pull the wool over the public's eyes. I envisioned websites needing to register with authorities and "KYC" all users. As the thought matured, I wondered about a digital ID provided by an ISP and delivered to a mandated tracking system on websites, or possibly DNSes. Thank fk for TOR... kinda, we know it's not a silverbullet.


Yeah, but it wasn't so in-you-face as it will be. There was accountability. It wasn't so public. And most of all, people just weren't as complicit, even with the scare tactics. This time they will be. This will make it easier.

Worst POV this and last century. Damned straight I have plenty, plenty to hide. Nothing immoral by my code, nothing terribly illegal (depending on country), most of all nothing that harms others. But I value my privacy. I value the part of my humanity capable of being self-conscious in an increasingly shameless, "self-unaware" world.

Now we may be able to go on using alternative libre services, but how long until they're attacked by AI spam bots? Until the quality of these platforms degrades? Remember Bitchute started out well-intentioned as a free-speech Youtube, now it's a cesspool of conspiracy theories, extremist politics and questionable material (if it's still around, lol). So they'll have us by the gonads because AI is going to destroy platforms without sufficient guards and their are LLMs designed to take other LLM outputs and make them "less detectable".

PS: Operator if you care: https://techcrunch.com/2025/01/23/o...an-ai-agent-that-performs-tasks-autonomously/ (just another AI assistant)

We are moving toward total social control, if they put the digital passport, I will say goodbye to the Internet.
 
Hm. Yes, it's becoming more difficult to have anonymous identity on the Internet, especially hosting forums will become more and more impossible as the legal risk becomes too great. Before it was DMCA but now the concern is user data controls, moderation, etc. This will require AI to enforce the security controls to mitigate legal risk, and eventually it won't make sense at all to use the Internet as it was.
 
Before anyone thinks, "paranoia", let's sum things up, starting with the general anti-privacy sentiments and lack of privacy concerns socially engineered into modern society
Heh. Tell me about it.

I've been increasingly bemused by the antics of many younger newcomers into our neighbourhood.

During the day, they keep blinds/curtains tightly closed.....BUT; as soon as it gets dark, on come the lights and all the blinds & curtains are opened wide, putting themselves on full display to anyone walking past outside in the dark (who are of course invisible to the occupants).

You can't tell me that's now considered "normal" behaviour, surely to God?? That's just weird.....

Veeery strange, if you ask me.


Mike. o_O
 
@MikeWalsh ....that's because your 'day' is their night.....and your 'night' is their day

weird....in our 'world', yes. But in theirs, they see it as 'normal' and are quite comfortable with it

i guess there are fewer people to disturb them>,,,maybe?...perhaps the wifi signal is stronger ?....god only knows !....perhaps this is their 'kick back' against 'society'.....the 'you shall go to work during daylight hours' !....yeah, right.
 
Guys we are not anonymous, all our actions on the internet are linked to your IDs through our ISPs they just want to prevent underage to enter adult sits like Facebook

Adult sites like ... Facebook !?


Seriously, I'd like to see them try. It's not about restricting site A or B, it's about internet access. And thus, control.

You see, the problem is : all countries need to agree. ALL THE COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD.

Never gonna happen. There's more urgent problems to solve than to try and make Twitter/X less toxic.
 
Guys we are not anonymous, all our actions on the internet are linked to your IDs through our ISPs they just want to prevent underage to enter adult sits like Facebook

ISP's have a degree of I-dont-care-what-you-do-as-long-as-you-pay-me attitude. At least, in this part of the world

They're not going to share anything. Adult sites are not prohibited by the way, 100% legal. Access of minors to these sites is not really an issue in many countries in the world, it's only an issue if you make it one.
 

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