How to Put Gnome 46 DE on top of Kubuntu OS/Distro?

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Hey everyone, I'm very new to Linux and nowhere near as computer literate/knowledgeable as most of you. But I just installed Kubuntu onto a second M.2 NVM SSD drive on my motherboard. The first drive has Windows 10 on it, now I added a second identical drive (just 500gb instead of 1TB) to my motherboard so I can have Linux on it. I did it, it works, it's great and got it all setup with the help of some very nice members here. That part wasn't easy per say, but not hard and it all went to plan.

But now I have a problem. Kubuntu is gone from my drive!

I realized over the last few days at work doing more and more research, that I think I want to use Gnome 46 as my DE. It just looks, feels and acts so much more like Mac OS's (which I know, love, am used to and much prefer over a windows look/feel computer), while Kubuntu looks and feels a lot more like Windows. And since I'm switching to Linux mostly for the ability to edit and make the DE look and feel how I want, I started to realize that Gnome is what I want. I don't dislike Kubuntu or anything and still want to keep it as my OS (it's great), but just put Gnome DE on top of it, like everyone said I could do.

So long story shorter, I found this site https://snapcraft.io/install/gnome-46-2404/kubuntu. And it made it all seem SOOO easy. Just open my terminal and type in sudo snap install gnome-46-2404 and voila... you should have Gnome 46 DE on top of Kubuntu. But that did not happen. I rebooted, looked at all the buttons and options on the login password screen, and there is NO WAY to chose Gnome as my Desktop. It's not there!? I even tried installing this Snapd thing through the terminal (which again, I have no idea what it even is or what it does), and the terminal comes back and says I already have it. So I then realized that Ubuntu has Gnome as it's DE. So I thought I'll just put Ubuntu on the drive. So I put my Ubuntu ISO onto my USB, rebooted the computer, loaded the Ventoy formatted USB with Ubuntu on it and installed it. Annnnnnnnnnnnnd Kubuntu is gone now with Ubuntu is in it's place. So that's awesome, hahaha.

So I'm just really confused HOW did this happen? I thought everyone said I can just install any distro or DE and then chose from whichever one I want at the Log In screen? That it won't overwrite the previous distro or DE? I've seen lots of videos of people doing it. Booting up to this screen, then choosing in the bottom right corner usually, from any DE or Distro you have loaded onto the drive. It's This screen:
sddm-login.png


So is Kubuntu gone? If it is, I guess I'm going to have to reinstall it. Not the end of the world. Thankfully I haven't even added anything to it or done any real editing to the DE, so no big deal. Just more of a pain in the butt really. But then more importantly, HOW do I install Gnome 46 DE on top of my Kubuntu distro/OS? I followed that webpages "super simple" instructions and NOTHING happened. And it's not some rando website, it's Canonical's own website! And then after I figure that all out, I have more questions about desktops and the like, but we'll just deal with these one at a time.

Thanks
 


My understanding is that regular Ubuntu uses Gnome.
The "K" in Kubuntu means "KDE". I suppose you could install any DE on any distro, but it's a lot easier just to
use the distro that comes with the desktop you want to use.
 
My understanding is that regular Ubuntu uses Gnome.
The "K" in Kubuntu means "KDE". I suppose you could install any DE on any distro, but it's a lot easier just to
use the distro that comes with the desktop you want to use.
Correct. That's why I tried to install it, so that I could use Gnome as my DE. And Kubuntu is Ubuntu, but just with KDE Plasma DE on top. But a slightly modified version, that has been setup by Canonical. It apparently is a bit better than installing Ubuntu, then putting Plasma DE on top.

But everyone I've talked to here and other places say you can put any distro or DE on top of any distro. That it's just a matter of how much work or how little work you want to do, to make it work.
 
Generally Linux distribution's don't vanish from a drive without elevated privileges.
OR> use of a program like g-parted to remove the partitions.

Boot into your Ubuntu installation and post back the results:

Code:
sudo fdisk -l

Like our member @dos2unix said, and I completely agree with him on this.....staying with the DE that is already installed with the distribution you've performed a fresh install of is easier to use and run.

There should be a gear or icon on the page of your login screen to switch to another DE.
IF not then the Gnome DE isn't installed.

You'd be better off installing Gnome using APT.

Installing GNOME on Ubuntu​


The ubuntu-gnome-desktop package requires a minimum of 2.5 GB of free space on the system. The package is installed as follows:


Our member @kc1di is well versed in the KDE DE and how it works. Let's see if he can chime in and help with your decision of adding the Gnome DE on Kubuntu.
 
Generally Linux distribution's don't vanish from a drive without elevated privileges.
OR> use of a program like g-parted to remove the partitions.

Boot into your Ubuntu installation and post back the results:

Code:
sudo fdisk -l

Like our member @dos2unix said, and I completely agree with him on this.....staying with the DE that is already installed with the distribution you've performed a fresh install of is easier to use and run.

There should be a gear or icon on the page of your login screen to switch to another DE.
IF not then the Gnome DE isn't installed.

You'd be better off installing Gnome using APT.

Installing GNOME on Ubuntu​


The ubuntu-gnome-desktop package requires a minimum of 2.5 GB of free space on the system. The package is installed as follows:


Our member @kc1di is well versed in the KDE DE and how it works. Let's see if he can chime in and help with your decision of adding the Gnome DE on Kubuntu.

Hmmm, ok, good to know. Either way, it's not the end of the world if it IS gone. But either tonight or sometime this week when I have time, I'll run that line in terminal and post what comes back for you guys.

And again, the second part of what you two are saying is not what most people have been telling me. Almost everything I've read and been told so far (other than you two) states that any DE can be run on any distro. That usually they work just fine together with no problems. And if there are problems, there's almost always a work around. It's just DO YOU want to put in the effort. But like I said, I already have ISO's of the newest Ubuntu, Kubuntu, PoP OS, Zorin and Mint Cinnamon on my computer. And since Ubuntu uses Gnome 46 as it's DE, I'm just going to use that distro and DE. So it should all run perfectly as Gnome 46 was made to work with Ubuntu.

And yes, I know there "should" be a gear icon on the login page to switch DE's, but there isn't. So it somehow must have not installed. Even though after I typed in that line of code in terminal, it asked for my password and then did all sorts of stuff with a bunch of lines of code flashing down the screen for a decent amount of time before it finished. So I assumed it installed? But apparently not? I don't really understand Linux so far and it's confusing.

And you say it would be better to install Gnome using APT. Again, I don't know what that means. I looked APT up and it seems it's some sort of package manager, but I don't even know what that means. So I just feel really lost. Is using APT to install Gnome using some sort of line command in terminal to install? If so, then I just need to know what line command to type in to install Gnome 46. But I thought I already did that when i followed those instructions from Canonical's site I shared in my first post. The line of code to put in terminal was: sudo snap install gnome-46-2404.

And thank you for sharing that link, but I already have the newest Ubuntu with Gnome installed now. That was in my first post. I'm just wondering why Kubuntu is gone? And wondering IF I can have Kubuntu as my distro/os, but then have Gnome 46 DE on top? Or should I just stay with Ubunutu as the OS/distro?

And yes, hopefully this other member can chime in and help out. That would be awesome and much appreciated.

Thanks for you help and explaining
 
The problem is with trying to install gnome on a KDE centric distro is that there are multiple conflicts created. You would be better off running Ubuntu in a VM or just installing it to it's own partition. It will not play well on Kubuntu your just asking for trouble.
 
Hmmm, ok, good to know. Either way, it's not the end of the world if it IS gone. But either tonight or sometime this week when I have time, I'll run that line in terminal and post what comes back for you guys.

And again, the second part of what you two are saying is not what most people have been telling me. Almost everything I've read and been told so far (other than you two) states that any DE can be run on any distro. That usually they work just fine together with no problems. And if there are problems, there's almost always a work around. It's just DO YOU want to put in the effort. But like I said, I already have ISO's of the newest Ubuntu, Kubuntu, PoP OS, Zorin and Mint Cinnamon on my computer. And since Ubuntu uses Gnome 46 as it's DE, I'm just going to use that distro and DE. So it should all run perfectly as Gnome 46 was made to work with Ubuntu.

And yes, I know there "should" be a gear icon on the login page to switch DE's, but there isn't. So it somehow must have not installed. Even though after I typed in that line of code in terminal, it asked for my password and then did all sorts of stuff with a bunch of lines of code flashing down the screen for a decent amount of time before it finished. So I assumed it installed? But apparently not? I don't really understand Linux so far and it's confusing.

And you say it would be better to install Gnome using APT. Again, I don't know what that means. I looked APT up and it seems it's some sort of package manager, but I don't even know what that means. So I just feel really lost. Is using APT to install Gnome using some sort of line command in terminal to install? If so, then I just need to know what line command to type in to install Gnome 46. But I thought I already did that when i followed those instructions from Canonical's site I shared in my first post. The line of code to put in terminal was: sudo snap install gnome-46-2404.

And thank you for sharing that link, but I already have the newest Ubuntu with Gnome installed now. That was in my first post. I'm just wondering why Kubuntu is gone? And wondering IF I can have Kubuntu as my distro/os, but then have Gnome 46 DE on top? Or should I just stay with Ubunutu as the OS/distro?

And yes, hopefully this other member can chime in and help out. That would be awesome and much appreciated.

Thanks for you help and explaining

When you have time post what the command returns.
That will reveal what partitions exist on the 2 disks you have.
And yes, I know there "should" be a gear icon on the login page to switch DE's, but there isn't.
Then something is missing, misconfigured or broken.
Did you check the integrity of the .iso file before you installed Kubuntu?

As far as the command above using snap to install a pkg is concerned.
There's a reason why the men that created Linux Mint keep snap out of the distro completely.
Not knowing how to use Apt can be challenging I understand. I was once new to Linux as you.
The article in the link should help.
If not, let me know and I'll explain.

That was in my first post. I'm just wondering why Kubuntu is gone? And wondering IF I can have Kubuntu as my distro/os, but then have Gnome 46 DE on top? Or should I just stay with Ubunutu as the OS/distro?
Until we know by the output of the command I've asked you to run <or> by opening g-parted I wouldn't removed Ubuntu or make any other changes.

With more than one DE installed you have to be sure that those DE's have everything that they need. If they don't have all of the libraries (engines) and modules (drivers) they need they most likely will not launch.
*This I learned on my Slackware system and years of toying with it.

If APT (the command-line package tool) can't find it IMO it's not worth having.
 
Hmmm, ok, good to know. Either way, it's not the end of the world if it IS gone. But either tonight or sometime this week when I have time, I'll run that line in terminal and post what comes back for you guys.

And again, the second part of what you two are saying is not what most people have been telling me. Almost everything I've read and been told so far (other than you two) states that any DE can be run on any distro. That usually they work just fine together with no problems. And if there are problems, there's almost always a work around. It's just DO YOU want to put in the effort. But like I said, I already have ISO's of the newest Ubuntu, Kubuntu, PoP OS, Zorin and Mint Cinnamon on my computer. And since Ubuntu uses Gnome 46 as it's DE, I'm just going to use that distro and DE. So it should all run perfectly as Gnome 46 was made to work with Ubuntu.

And yes, I know there "should" be a gear icon on the login page to switch DE's, but there isn't. So it somehow must have not installed. Even though after I typed in that line of code in terminal, it asked for my password and then did all sorts of stuff with a bunch of lines of code flashing down the screen for a decent amount of time before it finished. So I assumed it installed? But apparently not? I don't really understand Linux so far and it's confusing.

And you say it would be better to install Gnome using APT. Again, I don't know what that means. I looked APT up and it seems it's some sort of package manager, but I don't even know what that means. So I just feel really lost. Is using APT to install Gnome using some sort of line command in terminal to install? If so, then I just need to know what line command to type in to install Gnome 46. But I thought I already did that when i followed those instructions from Canonical's site I shared in my first post. The line of code to put in terminal was: sudo snap install gnome-46-2404.

And thank you for sharing that link, but I already have the newest Ubuntu with Gnome installed now. That was in my first post. I'm just wondering why Kubuntu is gone? And wondering IF I can have Kubuntu as my distro/os, but then have Gnome 46 DE on top? Or should I just stay with Ubunutu as the OS/distro?

And yes, hopefully this other member can chime in and help out. That would be awesome and much appreciated.

Thanks for you help and explaining

When you have time post what the command returns.
That will reveal what partitions exist on the 2 disks you have.

Then something is missing, misconfigured or broken.
Did you check the integrity of the .iso file before you installed Kubuntu?

As far as the command above using snap to install a pkg is concerned.
There's a reason why the men that created Linux Mint keep snap out of the distro completely.
Not knowing how to use Apt can be challenging I understand. I was once new to Linux as you.
The article in the link should help.
If not, let me know and I'll explain.


Until we know by the output of the command I've asked you to run <or> by opening g-parted I wouldn't removed Ubuntu or make any other changes.

With more than one DE installed you have to be sure that those DE's have everything that they need. If they don't have all of the libraries (engines) and modules (drivers) they need they most likely will not launch.
*This I learned on my Slackware system and years of toying with it.

If APT (the command-line package tool) can't find it IMO it's not worth having.
Ok, I'll report back here with the output from that command you gave me when I get some free time and post it. That way you can see what happened.

And thank you for that link with the info about Apt. I'll also get into that and read up this weekend when I have a lot more free time.

Thank you again, I really appreciate you guys helping a newbie out like myself. It can be VERY intimidating coming to a computer forum (especially a Linux forum) for help and understanding. Not a lot of computer people are helpful and understanding. So it's refreshing that so far, this Forum has so many nice people. Cheers
 
The problem is with trying to install gnome on a KDE centric distro is that there are multiple conflicts created. You would be better off running Ubuntu in a VM or just installing it to it's own partition. It will not play well on Kubuntu your just asking for trouble.
I'll just run regular Ubuntu then. I've already got it installed now and it has the DE I wanted, which is Gnome 46. I didn't want to do this distro hoping thing everyone does, but after watching more videos and really understanding how Plasma and Gnome are different, I realized I don't need the insane amount of customization that Kubuntu offers. Plus, I just love the look, features and work flow that Gnome 46 desktops have. And it still has a LOT of customization options, it's not like it's some bare bones take it or leave it DE. It'll let me get my feet wet in the Linux world, used to how things work and be a touch easier to get used too, since Ubuntu is usually one of the top 3 beginner Linux distros everyone recommends.

Thanks for your input, I appreciate it
 
Ok, I'll report back here with the output from that command you gave me when I get some free time and post it. That way you can see what happened.

And thank you for that link with the info about Apt. I'll also get into that and read up this weekend when I have a lot more free time.

Thank you again, I really appreciate you guys helping a newbie out like myself. It can be VERY intimidating coming to a computer forum (especially a Linux forum) for help and understanding. Not a lot of computer people are helpful and understanding. So it's refreshing that so far, this Forum has so many nice people. Cheers
You're welcome.

Check out my Linux Blog in my signature line.
Some of the articles I wrote could help you in the future running Linux.

Enjoy the weekend!
 
Oh, another simple question I just thought of that I've been meaning to ask. Is there a way, to create different desktop environments, and save them, so you can "chose your flavor" every time you login to your computer?

Meaning, lets say I am going to use Ubuntu as my distro. And it has Gnome 46 as the DE. I don't want to save or use different DE's, what I want to do is create and then save different "versions" of the desktop environment. So for example, I'd have one desktop that has a dock on the bottom, a menu bar on top and has all light colored menu bars with blue folders and blue sliders, etc, etc. Then another desktop that has a left side dock bar with everything in it, it's a dark theme and has red sliders and folders, etc.

So same DE, Gnome 46 for all of them, but just save a few different versions so that I can change between "looks" when I'm in the mood. They'd all have the exact same apps, extensions, etc. Everything the same, just different looks.

Is that possible? If so, how do I go about doing that and saving that, and then pulling each one up?
 
Oh, another simple question I just thought of that I've been meaning to ask. Is there a way, to create different desktop environments, and save them, so you can "chose your flavor" every time you login to your computer?

Meaning, lets say I am going to use Ubuntu as my distro. And it has Gnome 46 as the DE. I don't want to save or use different DE's, what I want to do is create and then save different "versions" of the desktop environment. So for example, I'd have one desktop that has a dock on the bottom, a menu bar on top and has all light colored menu bars with blue folders and blue sliders, etc, etc. Then another desktop that has a left side dock bar with everything in it, it's a dark theme and has red sliders and folders, etc.

So same DE, Gnome 46 for all of them, but just save a few different versions so that I can change between "looks" when I'm in the mood. They'd all have the exact same apps, extensions, etc. Everything the same, just different looks.

Is that possible? If so, how do I go about doing that and saving that, and then pulling each one up?
I'd be surprised if you can have more than one of the same session, under the same DE in Linux.
The session manager is what controls the session your in that's up and running.
If it is possible, I'd be very careful what you change in the configuration.

Have a look at the Gnome Session Management to learn how it works and runs.
 
Hmmm, ok, good to know. Either way, it's not the end of the world if it IS gone. But either tonight or sometime this week when I have time, I'll run that line in terminal and post what comes back for you guys.

And again, the second part of what you two are saying is not what most people have been telling me. Almost everything I've read and been told so far (other than you two) states that any DE can be run on any distro. That usually they work just fine together with no problems. And if there are problems, there's almost always a work around. It's just DO YOU want to put in the effort. But like I said, I already have ISO's of the newest Ubuntu, Kubuntu, PoP OS, Zorin and Mint Cinnamon on my computer. And since Ubuntu uses Gnome 46 as it's DE, I'm just going to use that distro and DE. So it should all run perfectly as Gnome 46 was made to work with Ubuntu.

And yes, I know there "should" be a gear icon on the login page to switch DE's, but there isn't. So it somehow must have not installed. Even though after I typed in that line of code in terminal, it asked for my password and then did all sorts of stuff with a bunch of lines of code flashing down the screen for a decent amount of time before it finished. So I assumed it installed? But apparently not? I don't really understand Linux so far and it's confusing.

And you say it would be better to install Gnome using APT. Again, I don't know what that means. I looked APT up and it seems it's some sort of package manager, but I don't even know what that means. So I just feel really lost. Is using APT to install Gnome using some sort of line command in terminal to install? If so, then I just need to know what line command to type in to install Gnome 46. But I thought I already did that when i followed those instructions from Canonical's site I shared in my first post. The line of code to put in terminal was: sudo snap install gnome-46-2404.

And thank you for sharing that link, but I already have the newest Ubuntu with Gnome installed now. That was in my first post. I'm just wondering why Kubuntu is gone? And wondering IF I can have Kubuntu as my distro/os, but then have Gnome 46 DE on top? Or should I just stay with Ubunutu as the OS/distro?

And yes, hopefully this other member can chime in and help out. That would be awesome and much appreciated.

Thanks for you help and explaining

When you have time post what the command returns.
That will reveal what partitions exist on the 2 disks you have.

Then something is missing, misconfigured or broken.
Did you check the integrity of the .iso file before you installed Kubuntu?

As far as the command above using snap to install a pkg is concerned.
There's a reason why the men that created Linux Mint keep snap out of the distro completely.
Not knowing how to use Apt can be challenging I understand. I was once new to Linux as you.
The article in the link should help.
If not, let me know and I'll explain.


Until we know by the output of the command I've asked you to run <or> by opening g-parted I wouldn't removed Ubuntu or make any other changes.

With more than one DE installed you have to be sure that those DE's have everything that they need. If they don't have all of the libraries (engines) and modules (drivers) they need they most likely will not launch.
*This I learned on my Slackware system and years of toying with it.

If APT (the command-line package tool) can't find it IMO it's not worth having.
Ok, so Kubuntu did NOT go away, as you suspected. It was available to boot from at the GRUB boot screen. It's just SUPER confusing. After I installed regular Ubuntu, the GRUB screen has Ubuntu to chose from at the top. But then right below that, there is a Advanced Boot option for Ubuntu. Then two more weird things I can't even remember what they are. I think they said something about Memory Test or something to that effect. NO IDEA what they are or do, so I didn't touch them. Then below that, there is another Ubuntu, and below that another Ubuntu, then below that the Windows Boot Manager and finally at the bottom, Boot into the UEFI. So I found out through trial and error, that the second Ubuntu boot options were actually KUbuntu, NOT Ubuntu?!?! Unreal! Like all of this isn't confusing enough and instead of saying it's Kubuntu, the GRUB screen just lists it as Ubuntu.

So it was there and was fine. But since I decided to go with Ubuntu, I have another problem now! I put the newest Ubuntu on so I could use Gnome 46 as that's what I want to use. And I installed Gnome Tweaks and start messing around in there. Everything is fine and dandy until I click on the cursors drop down and then BAM, my computer just shuts down and has this white screen pop up that says: Ooops, something went Wrong!!! And no matter how many times or ways I tried to get back in, it wouldn't let me! So I just gave up trying and reinstalled Ubuntu onto the SSD drive and wiped everything off with a clean install. So now I'm back to square one for the third time. This is quickly becoming a nightmare and not sure how much longer I can deal with all of these problems and total lack of stability and ease of use.

And FYI, I did read a bit of your blog, but nothing on there pertains to me at this time. But thank you sharing. And then I did read a bit more about SNAPS from Ubuntu and still don't understand what they are really, but most people say to stay away from using it/them like the plague. So I'll just stay away from them. No need to understand them, just don't use them is the point.
 
Ok, so Kubuntu did NOT go away, as you suspected. It was available to boot from at the GRUB boot screen. It's just SUPER confusing. After I installed regular Ubuntu, the GRUB screen has Ubuntu to chose from at the top. But then right below that, there is a Advanced Boot option for Ubuntu. Then two more weird things I can't even remember what they are. I think they said something about Memory Test or something to that effect. NO IDEA what they are or do, so I didn't touch them. Then below that, there is another Ubuntu, and below that another Ubuntu, then below that the Windows Boot Manager and finally at the bottom, Boot into the UEFI. So I found out through trial and error, that the second Ubuntu boot options were actually KUbuntu, NOT Ubuntu?!?! Unreal! Like all of this isn't confusing enough and instead of saying it's Kubuntu, the GRUB screen just lists it as Ubuntu.

So it was there and was fine. But since I decided to go with Ubuntu, I have another problem now! I put the newest Ubuntu on so I could use Gnome 46 as that's what I want to use. And I installed Gnome Tweaks and start messing around in there. Everything is fine and dandy until I click on the cursors drop down and then BAM, my computer just shuts down and has this white screen pop up that says: Ooops, something went Wrong!!! And no matter how many times or ways I tried to get back in, it wouldn't let me! So I just gave up trying and reinstalled Ubuntu onto the SSD drive and wiped everything off with a clean install. So now I'm back to square one for the third time. This is quickly becoming a nightmare and not sure how much longer I can deal with all of these problems and total lack of stability and ease of use.

And FYI, I did read a bit of your blog, but nothing on there pertains to me at this time. But thank you sharing. And then I did read a bit more about SNAPS from Ubuntu and still don't understand what they are really, but most people say to stay away from using it/them like the plague. So I'll just stay away from them. No need to understand them, just don't use them is the point.
Can't help with the Unbuntu , have not used it for any length of time lately. But if you installed Ubuntu 24.04 you have at least 2 programs that are snaps by default both Firefox and Thunderbird are installed as snap packages if they are both working for you I wouldn't worry about it too much yet. Snaps are part of Ubuntu's efforts to make a portable package that is self contained. The other competing types are Appimages and Flatpacks. Snap packaging has not been widely accepted by the Linux community Flatpacks have gotten more acceptance ( Flatpack are a Redhat/ Fedora system) Appimages are independent.
If you really don't won't to use snaps you can install firefox and thunderbird from .deb packages.
Keep at it. you'll get there.
as for the grub enteries you should have chosen for ubuntu to use the complete disk or prehaps you have more than one disk with Kubuntu on the other one.
 
Can't help with the Unbuntu , have not used it for any length of time lately. But if you installed Ubuntu 24.04 you have at least 2 programs that are snaps by default both Firefox and Thunderbird are installed as snap packages if they are both working for you I wouldn't worry about it too much yet. Snaps are part of Ubuntu's efforts to make a portable package that is self contained. The other competing types are Appimages and Flatpacks. Snap packaging has not been widely accepted by the Linux community Flatpacks have gotten more acceptance ( Flatpack are a Redhat/ Fedora system) Appimages are independent.
If you really don't won't to use snaps you can install firefox and thunderbird from .deb packages.

Keep at it. you'll get there.
as for the grub enteries you should have chosen for ubuntu to use the complete disk or prehaps you have more than one disk with Kubuntu on the other one.
Thanks for making me aware of .deb packages installs. I'll look into that and see if I can delete Thunderbird and Firefox and reinstall using .deb so I don't have any more problems.
 
Thanks for making me aware of .deb packages installs. I'll look into that and see if I can delete Thunderbird and Firefox and reinstall using .deb so I don't have any more problems.
You may still have problems if they are not related to Snaps :(
 
You may still have problems if they are not related to Snaps :(
Just found a great article about how to completely remove snap apps and the snap program. I'll give it a try this weekend and see how it goes. I'm first going to do a bunch of stuff that everyone says you should do first after installing Ubuntu. Get it all setup, then use Timeshift to make a backup before I try removing Snap and it's programs, just in case something goes wrong.
 
Poor is the OS or DE where you have to do a bunch of stuff to make it feel right.

There's a subset of Linux (and presumably Windows) users who would strongly disagree with your statement.

Not me, not really. I like stuff that I can just get to using straight out of the box or with just a few minutes of tweaking.

But, there are things like Arch or Gentoo users. There are people who do endless tweaking to get their set up just right (for them). They'll spend (literally) dozens of hours just to get things the way they want them. They'll invest tons of time and energy into making it 'feel right' to them.

They're just as valid as I am.

I used to be among them. My motto was, "If it ain't broke, tweak it."

Apathy and laziness have influenced me. I look for a 'dark mode' theme and call it good.
 
There's a subset of Linux (and presumably Windows) users who would strongly disagree with your statement.
But, there are things like Arch or Gentoo users. There are people who do endless tweaking to get their set up just right (for them).
And ricers.
 

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