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Caloxeno

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I am Caloxeno, an new Linux Mint user from Argentina :)

I joined because I am having a problem, and I am making a thread about it really soon (Maybe some minutes after writing this)

I used to have Windows 10, but I decided to switch to Linux because my Windows worked really bad (It was my fault thought, I installed too many programs). And, luckily, I installed Linux two days before Windows broke. If I didn't install Linux, I guess I would not be able to use my PC right now.

Because of the problem I am having, I also installed Ubuntu. And now I regret it.

I am having some boot problems now, and I don't like Ubuntu.

Anyways, just wanted to say hi :)
 


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VP9KS

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Welcome to the group, mate! :):D What flavor of Linux did you install before Ubuntu? It seems to be working for you, anyway. Ah, yes, good old win 10:eek::eek:. Never tried it myself, but have heard many who absolutely despise it. I decided not to go past XP, because I did not want to pay big bucks for the privilege of working the bugs out of a new version. I have 7, but only because it came to me tied to a motherboard I am currently using in one of the computers here in the shack. Every couple months, I slap the drive caddy for it in, and let it do updates for however many hours it takes, while I switch to one of the other machines (running Linux, of course!) and do something constructive.:cool::cool::cool:

Ciao for Now
Paul
 
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Caloxeno

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Welcome to the group, mate! :):D What flavor of Linux did you install before Ubuntu? It seems to be working for you, anyway. Ah, yes, good old win 10:eek::eek:. Never tried it myself, but have heard many who absolutely despise it. I decided not to go past XP, because I did not want to pay big bucks for the privilege of working the bugs out of a new version. I have 7, but only because it came to me tied to a motherboard I am currently using in one of the computers here in the shack. Every couple months, I slap the drive caddy for it in, and let it do updates for however many hours it takes, while I switch to one of the other machines (running Linux, of course!) and do something constructive.:cool::cool::cool:

Ciao for Now
Paul
Hey there!
Before Ubuntu, I had Linux Mint Cinnamon (And I still have it in a drive)
And about Windows 10, it is not really that bad, as I said, I broke it :p
I know how it feels to have a Windows version installed because it comes with the motherboard...
Good luck there!
 
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VP9KS

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Well,
The whole story on that motherboard is this. My wife had been using that with a 3.4GHZ single core P4 on it with 4gig of ram and a 500GB IDE hard drive. I have been trying to get her weaned off Windows for quite some time, so I installed Mint cinnamon 17.0 on a drive caddy and gave it to her. It ran TERRIBLY slow!!!:oops::oops: So I offered to upgrade (translated to completely GUT) her existing case. I replaced the motherboard, memory, power supply. and hard drive. Now that same case has an AMD FX-8370 Black Edition (eight 4GHZ cores) with a Cryorg H7 cooler sitting on top of it, 16GB of ram, a 1000 watt power supply, and 3TB SATA hard drive. It purrs! I also upgraded her dvd burner to SATA. Just a weee bit faster. Then she went and bought the 64 bit version of win 7:eek::eek: to use on it. Curses, foiled again:(:(! You can lead a horse to water .....

I took the old motherboard and dropped a used core 2 duo E5800 on it to replace an older one that I was using here in the shack. I hate to throw away perfectly good components. It is a big improvement on the old system. Before, it would only run Puppy, but now it runs anything I throw at it. I have a stack of drive caddies with different Linux systems on them. Just pick one and slap it in, Fire in the hole!!!:p:p

Mint cinnamon, you say. What version? Nice stable system. You do know they just released 18.1 don't you?

Ciao for now,:)
Paul
 
C

Caloxeno

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Well,
The whole story on that motherboard is this. My wife had been using that with a 3.4GHZ single core P4 on it with 4gig of ram and a 500GB IDE hard drive. I have been trying to get her weaned off Windows for quite some time, so I installed Mint cinnamon 17.0 on a drive caddy and gave it to her. It ran TERRIBLY slow!!!:oops::oops: So I offered to upgrade (translated to completely GUT) her existing case. I replaced the motherboard, memory, power supply. and hard drive. Now that same case has an AMD FX-8370 Black Edition (eight 4GHZ cores) with a Cryorg H7 cooler sitting on top of it, 16GB of ram, a 1000 watt power supply, and 3TB SATA hard drive. It purrs! I also upgraded her dvd burner to SATA. Just a weee bit faster. Then she went and bought the 64 bit version of win 7:eek::eek: to use on it. Curses, foiled again:(:(! You can lead a horse to water .....

I took the old motherboard and dropped a used core 2 duo E5800 on it to replace an older one that I was using here in the shack. I hate to throw away perfectly good components. It is a big improvement on the old system. Before, it would only run Puppy, but now it runs anything I throw at it. I have a stack of drive caddies with different Linux systems on them. Just pick one and slap it in, Fire in the hole!!!:p:p

Mint cinnamon, you say. What version? Nice stable system. You do know they just released 18.1 don't you?

Ciao for now,:)
Paul
Oh, I'm sorry about that... It is also strange that it went that slow with those specs.
Anyways, about the new version of cinnamon, it came out before I switched to linux, so I has the latest version.
Why had? Because my PC is at the technician right now, since some malware for windows destroyed it. I guess I they will format the disk, and after I get my PC back, instead of mint, I think I'm going to use apricity.
Thanks for the reply! :)
 
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Caloxeno

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Well,
The whole story on that motherboard is this. My wife had been using that with a 3.4GHZ single core P4 on it with 4gig of ram and a 500GB IDE hard drive. I have been trying to get her weaned off Windows for quite some time, so I installed Mint cinnamon 17.0 on a drive caddy and gave it to her. It ran TERRIBLY slow!!!:oops::oops: So I offered to upgrade (translated to completely GUT) her existing case. I replaced the motherboard, memory, power supply. and hard drive. Now that same case has an AMD FX-8370 Black Edition (eight 4GHZ cores) with a Cryorg H7 cooler sitting on top of it, 16GB of ram, a 1000 watt power supply, and 3TB SATA hard drive. It purrs! I also upgraded her dvd burner to SATA. Just a weee bit faster. Then she went and bought the 64 bit version of win 7:eek::eek: to use on it. Curses, foiled again:(:(! You can lead a horse to water .....

I took the old motherboard and dropped a used core 2 duo E5800 on it to replace an older one that I was using here in the shack. I hate to throw away perfectly good components. It is a big improvement on the old system. Before, it would only run Puppy, but now it runs anything I throw at it. I have a stack of drive caddies with different Linux systems on them. Just pick one and slap it in, Fire in the hole!!!:p:p

Mint cinnamon, you say. What version? Nice stable system. You do know they just released 18.1 don't you?

Ciao for now,:)
Paul
Oh, I'm sorry to hear that, it is strange that it worked like that with those PC specs...

Anyways, about the new mint version, it came out before I switched to Linux, so I had it :)

And I said "had" because thanks to some malware for Windows, my PC is at the technician right now, and I guess they will format the disk.

But after getting my PC back, I think I am installing Apricity instead of Mint

Thanks for the replies!
 
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Yesyesloud

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Hey, welcome...

I'm not the biggest fan of Ubuntu either. Give Manjaro a ride.

As for DEs, Cinnamon is a quite borked in my humble opinion... I ran it for a good while. Go for anything xfce/lxde. Even Unity runs smoother than Cinnamon in most cases.

Good luck!
 
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VP9KS

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Hey, welcome...

I'm not the biggest fan of Ubuntu either. Give Manjaro a ride.

As for DEs, Cinnamon is a quite borked in my humble opinion... I ran it for a good while. Go for anything xfce/lxde. Even Unity runs smoother than Cinnamon in most cases.

Good luck!
Hmmm,:confused: I honestly have had very little problem with Cinnamon. Of course it isn't Slackware (I also use Slackware 14.1), but it seems to work well for me. I use the FLDIGI and QTEL software packages in Cinnamon, with very little problem. :):) What sort of problems did you encounter?
Paul
 
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Yesyesloud

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Hmmm,:confused: I honestly have had very little problem with Cinnamon. Of course it isn't Slackware (I also use Slackware 14.1), but it seems to work well for me. I use the FLDIGI and QTEL software packages in Cinnamon, with very little problem. :):) What sort of problems did you encounter?
Paul
FPS drops in gaming and video playback especially on my laptos... The same goes for perceived performance overall (starting apps, moving windows around etc). So crippling I decided to install other desktop environments at the time (1-2 years ago).

XFCE, LXDE and anything on top of Openbox window manager run obviously snappier on my laptops.

I tried Cinnamon on intel (an old although rather decent core 2 duo) and amd laptops, big performance hits were noticeable on all of them. Top notch hadware probably won't suffer from that though.

My desktop PC has more grunt power and didn't struggle on Cinnamon...

Generally, I'd say XFCE and LXDE are noticeably snappier and more lightweight than Cinnamon, but if you have the hardware Cinnamon is definitely prettier and better featured.
 
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VP9KS

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FPS drops in gaming and video playback especially on my laptos... The same goes for perceived performance overall (starting apps, moving windows around etc). So crippling I decided to install other desktop environments at the time (1-2 years ago).

XFCE, LXDE and anything on top of Openbox window manager run obviously snappier on my laptops.

I tried Cinnamon on intel (an old although rather decent core 2 duo) and amd laptops, big performance hits were noticeable on all of them. Top notch hadware probably won't suffer from that though.

My desktop PC has more grunt power and didn't struggle on Cinnamon...

Generally, I'd say XFCE and LXDE are noticeably snappier and more lightweight than Cinnamon, but if you have the hardware Cinnamon is definitely prettier and better featured.
Wow, sounds like you got the whole box of bugs. I'm not much of a gamer myself, perhaps that is why I haven't had much trouble. The computer that I am using right now is an old core 2 duo 2.2Ghz with 4gb of ram. It seems to love everything I throw at it. I have a couple more machines here in the shack that are just a wee bit faster.:p

Ciao for now,
Paul
 
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Crippled

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I am Caloxeno, an new Linux Mint user from Argentina :)

I joined because I am having a problem, and I am making a thread about it really soon (Maybe some minutes after writing this)

I used to have Windows 10, but I decided to switch to Linux because my Windows worked really bad (It was my fault thought, I installed too many programs). And, luckily, I installed Linux two days before Windows broke. If I didn't install Linux, I guess I would not be able to use my PC right now.

Because of the problem I am having, I also installed Ubuntu. And now I regret it.

I am having some boot problems now, and I don't like Ubuntu.

Anyways, just wanted to say hi :)
Hello and welcome. As a former Windows user it's good to hear you went away from Windows 10 which is Malware/Spyware. I am sorry to hear you got caught up in the Ubuntu trap. I use MX-16 Linux which runs tip top right on first boot up.
 
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VP9KS

Guest
Hey, welcome...

I'm not the biggest fan of Ubuntu either. Give Manjaro a ride.

As for DEs, Cinnamon is a quite borked in my humble opinion... I ran it for a good while. Go for anything xfce/lxde. Even Unity runs smoother than Cinnamon in most cases.

Good luck!
I see, on their web page, that they are phasing out X86 CPU support on Manjaro. Bummer!:(
 
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Crippled

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I see, on their web page, that they are phasing out X86 CPU support on Manjaro. Bummer!:(
That's typical of Manjaro's developers. They are arrogant and don't care about the user. That's why I switched to MX-16. By the way, MX-16 has a 32 bit version.
 
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Yesyesloud

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I see, on their web page, that they are phasing out X86 CPU support on Manjaro. Bummer!:(
Not really Manjaro's call as it's Arch-based. Actually, Arch is phasing it out - you can roll back though since it's a "user built" system, meaning you'll still be able to load X86 kernels from their repos.

Most derivatives maintainers wouldn't spend time fiddling with huge low level mods such as completely custom kernels, they mainly package whatever their baseline distro or the Linux project itself provides them with... Along with 3rd party drivers sometimes.

Regardless, Manjaro has a straightforward GUI for downloading/managing different kernels, meaning it will actually keep supporting X86, whereas likely all non-rolling distros will probably just abandon x86 when they, say, come of age.


Although non-rolling distributions (such as ubuntu/based) keep old kernels for a lot longer, those "fossilized" OSs will have to move on eventually unless they stop upgrading for life (the cycle isn't that fast already).


That's typical of Manjaro's developers. They are arrogant and don't care about the user. That's why I switched to MX-16. By the way, MX-16 has a 32 bit version.
lol I'd get it if you said that about Arch maintainers, but Manjaro is kind of aimed at rather inexperienced users. They're doing something seriously wrong then...

To be fair, with free beer comes a lot of hair hah

Anyways... MX-16 is the best Linux ever. It has the best apps. It's yoooge :p
 

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