Google purging ad-blocking extension uBlock Origin from Chrome Web Store Migration from Manifest V2 extensions is speeding up Oct.14, 2024

[Condobloke]

Video Downloader is available either via Github or on the Linux Mint repository.

It may be in other distros repositories as well.

On Linux Mint, I find it updates very regularly. I can only assume that this is to stay ahead of changes on youtube that threaten its effectiveness/existence

 

[The Duck]

This may cause a major change of perspective:

Youtube's war on Adblock got worse (2024-Sep-22)​

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« ad blockers violate YouTube's terms of service » (1m50s)​

Which means even if we can install an ad blocker a website as YouTube may require to be added on an exceptions list or there won't be a video... It seems to have happened weeks ago then i most probably forgot all about it. Yet i find it particularily odd coming from abuse professionals equiped with fancy troll tricks, like when a poster is the only guy to see his text on-line after it was erased silently, and/or standing alone in what i call a red fish tank. In short, YT has turned increasingly toxic, perhaps gambling that such treatment will cause members to come for more and continue to click like there's no tomorrow. Ah and the AI-based search engine, oh my! Built to crank us up with frustration, so it's no wonder ad blocking became popular while this sort of Halloween monster gained power, from its members: imagine, it's all virtual!

I've yet to see any warnings about any of the above or have any ads popin while I'm streaming on Youtube.

My extensions.

Got a better idea.... boycott google and youtube and let them know you do not approve.

That will never happen folks can't live without Google and Youtube and Google or Youtube know it.

That's like telling people to stop using Facebook it ain't going to happen.

The only people I ever hear complain about ads are Linux users.

 

[The Duck]

This may cause a major change of perspective:

Youtube's war on Adblock got worse (2024-Sep-22)​

​

« ad blockers violate YouTube's terms of service » (1m50s)​

Which means even if we can install an ad blocker a website as YouTube may require to be added on an exceptions list or there won't be a video... It seems to have happened weeks ago then i most probably forgot all about it. Yet i find it particularily odd coming from abuse professionals equiped with fancy troll tricks, like when a poster is the only guy to see his text on-line after it was erased silently, and/or standing alone in what i call a red fish tank. In short, YT has turned increasingly toxic, perhaps gambling that such treatment will cause members to come for more and continue to click like there's no tomorrow. Ah and the AI-based search engine, oh my! Built to crank us up with frustration, so it's no wonder ad blocking became popular while this sort of Halloween monster gained power, from its members: imagine, it's all virtual!

I've yet to see any warnings about any of the above or have any ads popin while I'm streaming on Youtube.

My extensions.
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Got a better idea.... boycott google and youtube and let them know you do not approve.

That will never happen folks can't live without Google and Youtube and Google or Youtube know it.

That's like telling people to stop using Facebook it ain't going to happen.

The only people I ever hear complain about ads are Linux users.

 

[f33dm3bits]

That will never happen folks can't live without Google and Youtube and Google or Youtube know it.

I tried doing Odysee only for a while two years back or so instead of going to Youtube each time, but only a small fraction of content creators actually upload their Youtube content to Odysee. So I ended up going to Youtube 99% of the time anyways because of that.

Odysee

Explore a whole universe of videos on Odysee from regular people just like you!

odysee.com

 

[Condobloke]

I am struggling know what the fuss is about...I really am

I use youtube.....my music thread will attest to that:

https://www.linux.org/threads/crossover-music-easy-listening-light-classical.48731/page-15

and my music collection...currently a bit over 1000 tracks.....thank you youtube......and not a murmur from youtube.

I use brave browser almost exclusively....although if I am watching soccer (Football for the English among us) i will be found on Chromium.....and still not a murmur from good ole google !

(and I mentioned their name s twice here and the crack of doom has not descended on me )....yet

 

[Egzoset]

...folks can't live without Google and Youtube...

The younger ones perhaps, because this sort of divorce is relatively new to them. But nothing lasts forever and today's majors may prefer to delay such fate if possible, otherwise they'll joint ICQ/mIRC, BBSes... Which is no absolute protection against more agressive postures in the meantime.

The only people I ever hear complain about ads are Linux users.

Ask those with a Roku TV. I get 7 commercials in a row for watching a 50 years old series while buffering hurts playback badly, zero trouble if using FireFox (etc.), so far...

 

[Trenix25]

This may cause a major change of perspective:

Youtube's war on Adblock got worse (2024-Sep-22)​

​

« ad blockers violate YouTube's terms of service » (1m50s)​

Which means even if we can install an ad blocker a website as YouTube may require to be added on an exceptions list or there won't be a video... It seems to have happened weeks ago then i most probably forgot all about it. Yet i find it particularily odd coming from abuse professionals equiped with fancy troll tricks, like when a poster is the only guy to see his text on-line after it was erased silently, and/or standing alone in what i call a red fish tank. In short, YT has turned increasingly toxic, perhaps gambling that such treatment will cause members to come for more and continue to click like there's no tomorrow. Ah and the AI-based search engine, oh my! Built to crank us up with frustration, so it's no wonder ad blocking became popular while this sort of Halloween monster gained power, from its members: imagine, it's all virtual!

This guy makes some good points. I hope he gets over that cold or whatever he's got. The way I see it people have a right to block ads with impunity because their data belongs to them, not to platforms like YouTube. Such platforms have no right to dictate how people use their own property. Amazon started adding ads in their Prime Video movies, but uBlock Origin is successfully blocking them. Someone might try clearing their cache and cookies after each video to see if that resets the counter. Perhaps I'll just have to find another source of movies if YouTube is so determined to be such a butt about it. It looks to me like browser hijacking if ads are being fed while the video is paused. Pause means hold here and wait for me, not spam me with garbage until I'm ready to continue. All it will take is a good add-on to make sure pause means pause. It's just a matter of modifying the JavaScript that YouTube provides to override that kind of madness. I remember when I used a browser without an ad blocker. I was in the middle of a movie or something and all of a sudden there was some guy nearby that wanted to sell me a pickup truck. It really ruins the whole movie experience. I really don't think YouTube deserves to be paid to behave, not like they would anyway. I will never have a YouTube channel by choice. Their terms are detestable so I refuse to have my own channel. I think people should continue to find ways to defy them just to piss them off. They deserve nothing less. They sued the guy that made youtube-dl that downloads YouTube videos and lost. It looks like they guy's not updating it anymore though. It isn't working with YouTube anymore. I have to use something else now. It's truly sad how some people can be so obsessed with money and data. Doing that ruins everything.

Signed,

Matthew Campbell

 

[Trenix25]

I would point out that it is likely to be a crime to download a DRM video, like a Hollywood movie, so using a video downloader to avoid ads would be illegal. Recommending that here would also violate this forum's terms. I don't know if my video downloader would be able to download DRM content because I haven't tried. I only enable it when I need it because I really don't trust it.

Signed,

Matthew Campbell

 

[GatorsFan]

You could just go to https://www.crx4chrome.com/ and download the .crx file and install it yourself
Also there is Ungooled-Chromium for Debian based OS https://github.com/berkley4/ungoogled-chromium-debian

 

[The Duck]

I am struggling know what the fuss is about...I really am

Yeah I don't have any problems either.

I figure if it happens I'll deal with it then.

Like I've already posted I've been reading about this kinda crap dumping so no surprise nor the end of the world if and when it happens.

Not gonna sweat the small crap.

If they take away my ad free Youtube viewing I'll just go to the local bar down the road and watch the entertainment there.

ads have an advantage gives this old man time to go to the bathroom.


Don't know how or why I have a double post I know the forum was have a problem when I was trying to post oh well.

 

[Egzoset]

Now gMail threatens me about a risk to loose everything if i don't hand out my phone number with alternate e-mail addresses... Look what trouble you got me into! ...

 

[The Duck]

Now gMail threatens me about a risk to loose everything if i don't hand out my phone number with alternate e-mail addresses... Look what trouble you got me into! ...

Gmail has been requesting alternate ways to restore your email if for some reason you get locked out.

You agreed to it when you created that Gmail account.
It was all in the EULA which you read prior to agreeing.

Give them the alternate email they already have so what the hell man.

Google and everyone else already has all of your personal information
through other entities such as places you visit.

Your doctor.
Your pharmacy.
Your bank and credit cards.

Ain't nothing private and hasn't been for years.

 

[Egzoset]

So, any additional suggestions to this short pre-emptive list?

AdBlock 6.9.3 .crx​

AdBlocker Ultimate 4.0.45 .crx​

Adblock for Youtube 6.0.2 .crx​

Adblock Plus 4.8 .crx​

AdGuard AdBlocker 5.0.138 .crx​

AdGuard AdBlocker Beta 4.4.30 .crx​

BlockSite 6.6.0.1 .crx​

NoScript 11.4.42 .crx​

Poper Blocker 7.0.0 .crx​

uBlock Origin 1.60.0 .crx​

uBlock Origin Development Build 1.60.1.14 .crx​

uBlock Origin Lite 2024.10.14.189 .crx​

Urban Browser Guard 7.0.1 .crx​

Just in case. Some VPN stuff perhaps??

 

[KGIII]

Such platforms have no right to dictate how people use their own property.

That sword cuts both ways.

Those computers running YouTube belong to Google, ergo you have no right to dictate how they use their property - which could include enforcing ads in exchange for access to the content.

Your option is to not use their service, I suppose. We do not have some inalienable right to access YouTube. They could put a paywall up tomorrow and there's not a darn thing we could do it. (They'd lose a bunch of publishers and a new service would likely grow to fill that hole in the market. That'd be fun to watch.)

 

[Fanboi]

That will never happen folks can't live without Google and Youtube and Google or Youtube know it.
That's like telling people to stop using Facebook it ain't going to happen.
The only people I ever hear complain about ads are Linux users.

*most folks.
I only use my Gmail account because I've had it ages for something... I don't even know why I have it. I use it for signing up with anything I think might send me spam. Kinda one big junkmail folder. I used GMX long ago and continue to use GMX. It's cleaner, it gives you 10 alias addresses (instead of 10 different accounts) and the web and mobile UI is way more visually appealing (ie: clean, simple, good).
As for Facebook, I am proud to say I do not have it and never will. I was pressured by family back in the UK to get an account to help "keep in touch", because nobody younger than about 35-40 knows what a letter is**, but after just a couple of months I closed it. Honestly I felt like I'd been tricked by a door-to-door salesman into signing up for one of those magazines with nothing but adverts and poorly-written "articles".
On ads, I think it's pretty common. Everyone I know complains about YT adds. Then I show them yt-dlp and they're like, "You're depriving content creators!!!" So I just avoid these sort of discussions as they're pointless. Different strokes. Purely unbiased: yeah, they have a right to show you ads coz you're getting stuff free (unless you subscribe) so those ads are paying or however the mantra goes. Tracking you is a different story, targeted ads and data collection is wrong. You can't consent to that because consent requires fully understanding the consequences etc.

** Briefly for any newcomers reading this thread, let me explain the letter concept: There's this thing that looks like a giant email icon, but it's made of paper. It's called an envelope. You can put paper you've written a note on into this "envelope". But here's the cool part, you buy these little squares and rectangles that you then stick to the envelope, you write the address on the envelope and put it in the big red thing that looks like a water tank with a slit in it. Magically, it will be transported to the recipient... albeit slowly. It feels rewarding. Try it.

I tried doing Odysee only for a while two years back or so instead of going to Youtube each time, but only a small fraction of content creators actually upload their Youtube content to Odysee. So I ended up going to Youtube 99% of the time anyways because of that.

Odysee

Explore a whole universe of videos on Odysee from regular people just like you!

odysee.com

Have you tried Rumble? It's actually succeeding where Bitchute failed and has less complexity to Odysee so it has gained a fair bit of traction. We can but keep hoping for more adoption coz YT is a digital cesspool of noise. I never watch stuff on YT, I download them with yt-dlp. If cannot download it, ie: I can't circumvent age restrictions or private videos, I just move on. It's just a video. If I don't see the latest epic fail, if I don't see someone get owned, if I don't get an update on the renaming of a fish only found between Norway and Svaalbard, my life won't change.

 

[Trenix25]

That sword cuts both ways.

Those computers running YouTube belong to Google, ergo you have no right to dictate how they use their property - which could include enforcing ads in exchange for access to the content.

Your option is to not use their service, I suppose. We do not have some inalienable right to access YouTube. They could put a paywall up tomorrow and there's not a darn thing we could do it. (They'd lose a bunch of publishers and a new service would likely grow to fill that hole in the market. That'd be fun to watch.)

If they decide to be that way then I'll just have to stop using YouTube. They will deserve such a boycott at that point anyway. I haven't checked Rumble yet to see if they have movies. I have been neglecting that resource for far too long already. I don't believe anyone should have to log in to use YouTube, though they do require it if what I'm trying to watch has an age restriction. Some movies are rated R for violence and such. I really wish YouTube would have a list of potential content warnings like movie channels do. I wish I could avoid the nudity and sexuality. YouTube would probably want everyone to log in first anyway so they can keep track of what everyone watches or searches for so they can be sure about even more about us. I told them to turn off such history for me. They probably already use machine and browser fingerprinting to try to find out about such information.

I've heard about this browser extension/add-on that searches for all kinds of unrelated things while you're not using your browser. The idea is that is makes it extremely difficult to know what the user is actually interested in because the list is so diverse. Then the targeted ads no longer work because you'll get ads for everything from lawn mower parts to women's shoes and baby formula to parts for your car. Does anyone remember the name of that browser add-on?

Anyway, if I can't at least mute the ads I'll just turn down the external speakers and refuse to watch it. I personally believe that running Internet ads is an offense.

Signed,

Matthew Campbell

 

[Condobloke]

It looks like they guy's not updating it anymore though

video downloader in linux Mints repository is still being updated and still works like a charm to download either the entire video or just its soundtrack. Also at github (https://github.com/Unrud/video-downloader)

** Briefly for any newcomers reading this thread, let me explain the letter concept: There's this thing that looks like a giant email icon, but it's made of paper. It's called an envelope. You can put paper you've written a note on into this "envelope". But here's the cool part, you buy these little squares and rectangles that you then stick to the envelope, you write the address on the envelope and put it in the big red thing that looks like a water tank with a slit in it. Magically, it will be transported to the recipient... albeit slowly. It feels rewarding. Try it.

yeah, I have heard about that phenomon......(raw sarcasm there....I am more than old enough to have used the system extensively). You have not lived until you experience actually licking the "little square or rectangle" to affix to the envelope.....and then licking the inner flap on the envelope to also seal it....omg, did that sound kinky !....lol
Agreed it was slow, but miraculously dependable...to all corners of the earth
The licking thing was eventaully replaced with 'self sticking' stamps and envelopes...took all the fun out of it, and th feeling of accomplishment at yet another job done.
We are not off topic...repeat after me....we are not.....

@Trenix25, Matthew, I agree wholeheartedly with all you have said there. They are a blot on society.

@Fanboi ....the mention of 'a blot on society' reminds us all of 'blotters' used to absorb extra ink laid on paper from a writing instrument (pen) which would otherwise cause a mess.....and was not self drying..... but I digress, again.

 

[KGIII]

They probably already use machine and browser fingerprinting to try to find out about such information.

I suspect you needn't log in for them to have a fairly accurate profile of who you are. They are pretty advanced at tracking people. People like to say that Google sells that data but they do not. They will provide you with aggregate information but nothing specific and nothing that an end user could tie to an identity. (I'm pretty familiar with the myriad Google tools, as I've used them all.)

I've heard about this browser extension/add-on that searches for all kinds of unrelated things while you're not using your browser.

I doubt that fools Google for very long. They probably recognize it and send all their internal data about those searches straight into the bit bucket. They are far from naive and aren't likely to be so easily fooled.

If they see a bunch of what is tantamount to gibberish, they'll just assume it is gibberish.

 

[hacktheworld]

I think Google should be brought to court first of all for the processing of user data and many other bad practices (mostly very invasive). A court case at Google would still involve a lot of time because they would certainly appeal, but also a class action could be supportive. The most immediate thing to do is boycott Google with all means we have at our disposal. First of all, we can not use Google products. I can also understand that many of us want to access the content of YT: you can use sites like *https://piped.kavin.rocks or programs such as Invidious or Freetube (although this last one is in beta stage and some features are not available, e.g. the proxy socks 4 and socks 5). These systems listed above would in any case limit the collection of data by Google and the adv.
Signed:
hacktheworld

*"YouTube has an extremely invasive privacy policy which relies on using user data in unethical ways. You give them a lot of data - ranging from ideas, music tastes, content, political opinions, and much more than you think.
By using Piped, you can freely watch and listen to content without the fear of prying eyes watching everything you are doing"
source: https://github.com/TeamPiped/Piped/
It’s not easy to counter Google’s invasive privacy policy, but we can try with the knowledge and means at our disposal.

 

[ron.alan]

or programs such as Invidious

Invidious hasn't work for me for over a month now.

I think the real solution (which isn't going to happen) would be for content creators to use a different video site.