Fallout 4 shenanigans.

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I got nostalgic.

But it runs so well, that it feels like its as if it was natively supported. Even got Vortex working and went bonkers with it by installing 100 mods in one afternoon without even starting the game. No problems.

Except for one funny thing. I benchmarked it;
  1. 1440p,
  2. max settings,
  3. no AA,
  4. 100fps,
  5. 80fps 1% lows,
  6. 40fps 0.1% lows.

Except that it feels like its half that number of frames, particularly with the mouse. The last time I played it was with a 1080p 60Hz monitor, therefore I don't have any frame of reference. Does anyone else get the feeling that the frames are actually half of what the counter is telling you?
 


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Do you have hd textures installed?
Dude, I posted the benchmark results, doesn't matter whether or not I have texture mods. In the worst possible circumstances, the frame counter doesn't go below 40.

Before it didn't matter since I had a 60Hz monitor, but now there is clear difference on how the mouse responds when the frames dip so... "low".

It this some kind of curse with high refresh monitors that when it goes far below its capability it starts to act wanky?
 

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Dude, I posted the benchmark results, doesn't matter whether or not I have texture mods. In the worst possible circumstances, the frame counter doesn't go below 40.
0.1% lows 40 is what you said also the lows dictate the feel of the game so you might want to turn the settings down as more than likely your pc cant play those settings at a consistent frame rate causing spikes.(why it feels like that)

This article explains it. I think

 
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The frames are exactly the same as they were when I had the 1080p 60Hz monitor. If anything, it runs faster than before because its the same frames at 1440p. Don't ask how, but its a common trend. In many games, I have significant performance gains on Linux as I did in windows.

The reason I can make this objective comparison is because I managed to salvage the mod list from my decrepit, near-broken old hard drive. I installed the exact same mods as I had on windows all these years ago. Maybe its these mods' newer versions being better optimized or maybe its just because Linux is damned superior, either way, its awesome.

Now, when I refer to 0.1% there only a specific area in which it pertains to. If you also played the game you would know to which I refer -BOSTON. That place has been murder for many a pc back in the day. A mod called "boston FPS fix" alleviates the problem, but we're still talking about drops of 40fps. The 0.1% I'm talking about is by going up on the roof and basically moving the camera in view of the entire city. Only then it actually begins to do something resembling a stutter and that low figure we are actually talking about.

Yeah, we may be talking about lows here, but back then to get 40fps 0.1% of the time at MAX SETTINGS was considered spectacular levels of performance.


Anyways, I've been tinkering.
PROTON_NO_ESYNC=1 DXVK_ASYNC=1 DXVK_FRAME_RATE=80
That's better. When the frames get lower, its no longer a seizure inducing transition. Now I will go into the .ini files.
 

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The frames are exactly the same as they were when I had the 1080p 60Hz monitor. If anything, it runs faster than before because its the same frames at 1440p. Don't ask how, but its a common trend. In many games, I have significant performance gains on Linux as I did in windows.

The reason I can make this objective comparison is because I managed to salvage the mod list from my decrepit, near-broken old hard drive. I installed the exact same mods as I had on windows all these years ago. Maybe its these mods' newer versions being better optimized or maybe its just because Linux is damned superior, either way, its awesome.

Now, when I refer to 0.1% there only a specific area in which it pertains to. If you also played the game you would know to which I refer -BOSTON. That place has been murder for many a pc back in the day. A mod called "boston FPS fix" alleviates the problem, but we're still talking about drops of 40fps. The 0.1% I'm talking about is by going up on the roof and basically moving the camera in view of the entire city. Only then it actually begins to do something resembling a stutter and that low figure we are actually talking about.

Yeah, we may be talking about lows here, but back then to get 40fps 0.1% of the time at MAX SETTINGS was considered spectacular levels of performance.


Anyways, I've been tinkering.

That's better. When the frames get lower, its no longer a seizure inducing transition. Now I will go into the .ini files.
Yea back when you ran games under or near 60fps Here is a video with the reccomended GPU set by bethesda.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8o1F_3mg96A.

Also linux is not as good as windows for gaming but its getting there but not there yet. (Its so close)

Lows define the feel of the game as I said read the first post in this thread so you can have a opinion other than mine.
https://linustechtips.com/topic/100...ming,(0.1%) Is it the core count? core speed?

Also your fix is the exact same thing as I was saying your PC cant run 100fps without spikes vsync or limiting fps would help.
If you think 40fps lows are good you might want to set DXVK_FRAME_RATE to 60.
 
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Its fine. Like I said, its not spiking, its a consistent low. Its that when it drops the transition is problematic. However I've done some digging on the nexus. It would seem that the mod which manages performance optimizations in troubled areas has been discontinued. It could be that I'm running the lastest version of FO4 with a version of the mod that no longer applies to it and is no longer being updated. I'll update this post if this tends to be the case.

P.S.: The .ini tweaks were set to 4 threads. I've set the value to something more appropriate to my CPU. Didn't do much for framerates but the CPU fan is screaming quite a bit less.

EDIT: Massive, MASSIVE improvement. I found a mod that completely rebuilds the way background objects are rendered. It never goes below 60fps now.
Also linux is not as good as windows for gaming but its getting there but not there yet. (Its so close)
Oh but in some cases it has surpassed it. I also play a game called "Stellaris". It loads 4x times faster... yeah, FOUR TIMES FASTER. And gaming performance is the same... like literally.

It seems that whatever has a good engine and native Linux support, runs really well there, as in REALLY well. Hell, even those that don't. I got some that even run faster, thanks to the lesser system overhead that Linux has.

Yeah, I'm a cliche convert, guilty as charged.
 
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