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Brickwizard
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you're telling me, and so is the shut-down time
Decided to treat myself for the festive season
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I doubt I'll buy another device without one - until the next greatest thing comes along.
Well, I may make an exception for a Windows laptop. I need Windows for some audio stuff and I don't actually care how fast it is overall. I merely need it to edit settings on some equipment more easily and thoroughly. (See Fender Mustang - amps - if you are curious and as one example, and my Kemper for another.)
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A long long time ago, there was a semi- pro singer and band manager we had Fender Twin reverbs for the guitars and the fender twin deck steel, we had an ESE [made local to us] 8 channel PA amp and speakers, a Binson, all Sure mike;s, those were the days [1968-74]
Well done Old Timer,
Talking of Timer have you actually timed actual disk read speed rather than cache..?
What temperature is your SSD after a bit of work?
Have you got SMART enabled and working..? No, not you..! The SSD
Have you taken steps to keep cool..? No, not you..! The SSD
My old girl (2008) is probably too old for this tech but after 823 hours run time I am well pleased with the speed – LO Writer loads in 2.5sec with Gimp taking 4.5sec – obviously small fry in your workflow but still noticeable over old HDD.
Will you be posting speeds and readout soon..? Great..!
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I haven't fitted any heat sink at the moment, I am watching the case temp, and at the moment it's only up a couple of deg,
as it is only running at 50% of its design I don't envisage heat problems, but will keep it under review
as it is only running at 50% of its design I don't envisage heat problems, but will keep it under review
(We're in off-topic. So, I might as well...)
I have a Twin Reverb. I recently got it back from servicing (yes, I'm that lazy - or I value spending my time otherwise). I had them replace the 6L6 (along with a cap job and fixing the grounding issue) and it's absurd how much tubes cost these days.
Tubes used to pretty darned cheap. The bill itemized the work and the tubes were almost $200 (for all 4 of them). In hindsight, I probably should have just had 'em order the full set from StewMac.
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Thanks to the Japanese explosion in the solid state circuitry, nearly all vac tube makers either stopped production or went bust, as I understand it there are only a few specialist suppliers worldwide now so prices have shot through the roof, shame you can't beat amps made with tubes for cleanness of sound no matter how expensive Solid state ones are they will never be as good.
You probably aren't keeping up with amp tech. There's some brilliant solid state amps out there. The biggest trend is currently 'modeling', which is done in a few different ways. Basically, they sample real amps and then recreate the tone electronically. Even among experts, the results are indistinguishable from the real thing.
This is also great, as you can have one amp that sounds like classic amps, amps you'd never be able to find and buy (or really expensive amps) on your own. Look into Kemper and Fractal, if you're curious. They do something called "IR" (Impulse Response) to model existing amps.
The time has come where SS is as good as tubes, often at a lower price. For a couple thousand dollars, you can have models of any amps that have already been modeled. There's a community that buys, sells, trades, and gives away their models, so more and more of those awesome amps can be recreated both live and in the studio.
That's why I need to eventually bite the bullet and suck on the Microsoft teat, 'cause there's very little compatibility with Linux at this time. I'm currently stuck doing everything the hard way, on the device itself, when I should be able to just plug it in and have thousands of potential combinations immediately to hand.
Well, to be fair, solid state amps don't have the volume at the same wattage. A 30w tube amp is going to be as loud as a 50w ss amp. But, these days, fewer and fewer people even bother bringing amps to the stage. They're using in ear monitors and everything is digital. Sometimes, even the drummer is digital - but that leaves a lot to be desired (I think). They call it 'silent stage'. You just pipe your digital signals to the house's PA system and call it a day.
That said...
I still love my tube amps. I've got a reasonable (I think) collection and I use the best tool for the job, and that's sometimes still analog. There's something about a tube amp cranked to 10 and with your gain bringing it right to the point of break up. But, more and more often, I reach for a solid state amp...
Also, solid state amps don't weight 80 to 120 pounds! I'm too old to go lugging that stuff around!
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Tel me about it, we borrowed an amp from ESE for a gig it had twin 16 inch speakers, took 2 of us to lift it, even after 46 years I still miss the buzz of working a live audience, but I'm too old now, voice went years ago, but I still have my memories, especially rehearsing with Don Williams in his dressing room when he was doing his first UK tour .that would have been 73/74, he was a real gent, and of all the artist from the states I had the opportunity to meet he was the best,
Amusingly, I was just touching on that in a different thread (one about printers, oddly enough).
I technically have a band where I can sit sets as often as I want. I was performing regularly up until COVID came along. I used COVID as an excuse to retire, but I can still go sit sets and make the people wiggle more or less in time.
Even after I no longer needed the money, I'd still find a way to get on the stage. I traveled a lot but I'm a union member. So, I'd find gun-for-hire types of gigs and do studio sessions for a flat fee.
When I was 11, I picked up the classical guitar and took formal lessons all the way to the age of 18. I've shared a track before. Amusingly, I've performed professionally almost every genre but classical! But, the classical background enabled me to be more fluid when moving between the genres.
You meet some interesting people along the way. Being a musician has opened all sorts of doors for me, doors I might have never known existed. I don't have many regrets - and I did pop music covers in the 80s!
For a while, I was actually paid by the government to play music. I was in a band that played to kids at schools while delivering a message about how drugs are bad. This was during the American DARE onslaught as a part of our war on drugs. That was one of the more surreal experiences, 'cause not one of us in the band was all that sober outside of performances.
I'm sure we influenced exactly zero kids, but it was one of the better playing gigs at the time.
That's good to know - I use hardinfo and with one click I get my Dell's sensor info...
Note: Fan is not on
Have you tested any disk read-write speeds yet?
Keep us updated..
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I do have Family spread across the UK and other commitments,
The desktop with the NVMe is maintaining an internal temp of 48C +- 5 deg
the SSD in the lappy feels colder than it did with the disk spinner [it only has a cpu sensor]
I am still in the process of setting up the apps I regularly use on both machines, before I can be bothered
running further test.
The desktop with the NVMe is maintaining an internal temp of 48C +- 5 deg
the SSD in the lappy feels colder than it did with the disk spinner [it only has a cpu sensor]
I am still in the process of setting up the apps I regularly use on both machines, before I can be bothered
running further test.
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OK had a bit of spare time this morning. Here is the hdparm results, they are better than I expected.
/dev/nvme0n1:
Timing buffered disk reads: 4378 MB in 3.00 seconds = 1459.07 MB/sec
/dev/nvme0n1:
Timing O_DIRECT disk reads: 4428 MB in 3.00 seconds = 1475.63 MB/sec
that is 70% of design speed for the NVMe on a PCIe3 [mine is PCIe2 so I consider that excellent]
comparison this is what I was putting up with on the old SATA disk spinner]
/dev/sda:
Timing O_DIRECT disk reads: 360 MB in 3.00 seconds = 119.82 MB/sec
/dev/nvme0n1:
Timing buffered disk reads: 4378 MB in 3.00 seconds = 1459.07 MB/sec
/dev/nvme0n1:
Timing O_DIRECT disk reads: 4428 MB in 3.00 seconds = 1475.63 MB/sec
that is 70% of design speed for the NVMe on a PCIe3 [mine is PCIe2 so I consider that excellent]
comparison this is what I was putting up with on the old SATA disk spinner]
/dev/sda:
Timing O_DIRECT disk reads: 360 MB in 3.00 seconds = 119.82 MB/sec
I'd say a worthwhile improvement
Merry Christmas!I'd say a worthwhile improvement
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Oh, man... I thought you were going from a SATA SSD to an NVMe M.2 SSD. But, if you're going from spinning platters to the NVMe, the speed increase must seem even more amazing.
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Even not at max potential, the difference is amazing,
The 2010 dell lappy is quicker now, but nowhere near the desktop, [it is only satta1] but I am pleased I spent a few bob [handful of cents] on a sata ssd
After getting one, I consider it to be one of the best innovations in recent years.
Then again, I (and we) have been using computers since they were a lot less speedy. The earliest computers we used had no internal storage.
If we look back over computer history, we've had some vast improvements in the tech. Some of it in ways I'd have never imagined. As mentioned previously, I used to hate computers. I used 'em 'cause I had to. They didn't do what I needed them to do, so I had to make 'em do what I needed. They were slow, awkward, and difficult.
Ah well...
I'm glad (and not surprised) that you're happy with your drive. I'll be in and out today. We had a large gathering last night.
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yep my first propper desktop was what we call an IBM compatible,[for-runner of the 286] a single 5" floppy drive you had to install the os to minimal ram then use the floppy drive to store your files
